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lobstermagnet (145 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
Disbanding?
This is my first game (and my first build phase) of online diplomacy. How do I disband an army to build something else?
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
07 Jul 09 UTC
New game
All are welcome(except the riff raff)
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jbalcorn (429 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
Moderator, Please unpause
New Deal 2
Game # 11544

Password protected gunboat game. Austria wanted a pause to go away for the holiday weekend. It's Wednesday.
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Danaman (1666 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
Paused games
Is there anyway to force a player to unpause a game? I am in a game where a player paused the game over 2 weeks go as soon as it went bad for his country. HNone of his other games are paused just the one.
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idealist (680 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
question about retreat
hypothetical situation:
If an army in st.pete bounced an army in sevastpol in moscow, and an army in warsaw was dislodged, can this disloged army retreat to moscow?
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raid1280 (190 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
24 Hour Turns - The Quick Dagger - Need Players
Need 6 players for a 24 hour turn game. 20 pt bid.
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jbalcorn (429 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
New Deal 2 - paused
New Deal 2 paused so that Austria could go to Disneyland for the weekend. Apparently, he's having a really good time.
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djbent (2572 D(S))
07 Jul 09 UTC
league bets
anyone want to bet virtual money on who will advance or be demoted in the leagues. it's too early to tell definitively, but it would be fun, as long as it doesn't devolve into commenting on ongoing games or some other metagaming.
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lanyards (100 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
New Forum Suggestion
Hey, I am new here. I don't know what forum this is, but phpBB forums are way better. I suggest whoever owns this site to look into switching over. http://www.phpbb.com/
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
02 Jul 09 UTC
"Greatest" Philosopher (2 Categories, See Below)
It's a silly thing to "name" one the greatest, there are at least 10 titans of thouht who could easily all claim the title of "Geatest Philosopher" but anywhoo...... it's fun. :D

So, 2 categories, Mental (ex. Kant, Descartes, Kierkegaard) and Political (Locke, Hobbes, Marx) and off we go.......
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lilone223 (100 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
join ww33
jon game u have about 6 minutes to join
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jiaflu (443 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
Need 2 for a game.
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12005

101 buy in.
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lilone223 (100 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
join doomed world
join my game doomed world so i can get it go join quick game starts in 12 hours
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DingleberryJones (4469 D(B))
06 Jul 09 UTC
I'm stuck on a 3 hour conference. I don't have to speak. its really boring.
Now entertain me!
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KaiserAl32 (135 D)
08 Jul 09 UTC
Fast Game
I started a fast game with a 25 point pot. It's called Troubadour. This is specially designed for all those people that want to bet 25 points on a fast game, but require notification via forum.
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denis (864 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
LIVE GAME just 59 minutes to join!!!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12033
Kozaki Odin-Nol-Odin
5D's
7 spots open
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denis (864 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
LIVE GAME who wants in?
Wondering how many people would be interested
15 minute turns tommorow morn 9 PST 11 EST
7 points to join
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ruffmike (100 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
join newbie-9 .....
join newbie-9 ..... bet only 10 to play....
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airborne (154 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
world leaders fast game tomarrow?
http://www.worldleadersthegame.com/fast_games/fast.php
Anyone interested?
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Ursa (1617 D)
04 Jul 09 UTC
Dutch Diplomacy draadje
Zijn hier nog meer Nederlanders?
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ag7433 (927 D(S))
07 Jul 09 UTC
Suggestion
It would be handy if the mods had a central email we could mail instead of posting on the forum. Does this exist?
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Xapi (194 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
Moderation actions
Question/proposal inside.
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bh (898 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
Pluraserver
When I load a page on phpDiplomacy, my browser starts making hundreds of requests to pluraserver.com containing an affiliate id. This is bothersome. Anyone else experiencing this behavior?
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airborne (154 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
High Bet Game?
a 50-75 point ante game is anyone interested?
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Chalks (488 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
WTA 101 buy in
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12005
DO IT. :D
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Lummis (100 D)
03 Jul 09 UTC
" The Thirteen Neighbours ", Study of 13 Adjacent Alliances.
" The Thirteen Neighbours ", A Study of the 13 Adjacent Country Alliances
* (A/G) Anschluss, the Austrian-German Alliance
* (R/T) The Juggernaut, the Russian-Turkish Alliance
... . * = -Known tactics- ; ...
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Lummis (100 D)
03 Jul 09 UTC
The Viking Hammer , (E/G) Alliance.
* ' The Viking Hammer ' * ... (VH) - (The V-H)
or, the English-German Alliance (E/G), an anti-French Gambit.
- Introduction: I was reading strategy articles and found t...
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Lummis (100 D)
03 Jul 09 UTC

* ' The Viking Hammer ' * ... (VH) - (The V-H)

or, the English-German Alliance (E/G), an anti-french gambit.


- Introduction

I was reading strategy articles and found the Sealion opening,
where France & Germany gang up quickly on England, and thought
out that the same could be easily done to France in almost as
little time at all and, best of all(also), no other powers are
really able to have anything they can say about it tacticaly.
It's a rather straight-forward attack plan to follow through,
that guarantees a fair number of builds, and a rather good
position for both players, no matter what happens...


-> The Opening Moves <- (Spring '01)

* England: (Churchill Opening)
+ Army Liverpool to yorkshire, that convoys to Belgium
+ Fleet London to North Sea, then convoys to Belgium
+ Fleet Edinburg to norwegian sea, then hits Norway.

OR England: (Standard Opening, Wales variant)
+ Army Liverpool to wales, that convoys to Belgium
+ Fleet London to English Channel, then convoys to Belgium
+ Fleet Edinburgh to Norwegian Sea, then moves to Norway.

* Germany: (Blitzkrieg, pro-english)
+ Fleet Kiel to Denmark, then Sweden
+ Army Berlin to Kiel, then Holland
+ Army Munich to Ruhr, then Ruhr(s)Yorkshire(c)Belgium!

OR Germany: (Burgundy Opening, anti-russian)
+ Fleet Kiel to Denmark, then Sweden
+ Army Berlin to Kiel, then Holland
+ Army Munich to Burgundy, then if bounced: mun-bur, else...


- The Proposal and Borders:

* Basic idea is to secure Scandanavia and conquer then France. *
* A two-against-one opening with easy long-term possibilities. *
* Committing a seven unit campaign against the French in 1902. *
* The V-H reaches up to eight Supply Centers by the Fall 1904. *

-- Land Share Line(s) --

* England-> 12 (3+9)
:< Norway, st-petersburg, moscow, belgium, >
:< Brest, Portugal, Spain, tunis, naples...>
(Often english gains Moscow, so entry into Turkey is facilitated.)

* Germany-> 12 (3+9)
:< Holland, denmark, sweden, Paris, Marseilles, >
:< warsaw, vienna, venice, tri...>
(Everything around Switzerland, effectively controling center of map.)

Note: From that, there are 10 Supply Centers left to share,
depending on people's campaigns, positions, and strategies...


- Advantages of the English-German alliance:

> It effectively blocks the French from any third build. (Max.5)
> They can easily co-exist; one has fleets, the other armies.
> Gaining control of both N-E & S-W corners, they are hard to beat.
> Both countries then march South during the mid-game.
> They can easily carve up Europe, and go for a 2-way...

> England gets quicker access into and about the mediterranean.
> England gains a foothold in the north, with a chance at StP.
> England has potentially more SC's that are easier to gain.

> Germany ensures itself some builds during the first few years.
> Germany can enjoys a 'friendly corner' on the board.
> Germany gains are stance to gain a sure foothold in the balkans.


- Drawbacks of the Viking Hammer:

< The ambitious plans of the V-H are rather in plain sight
. to all the other five players quite early on.

< England might fear an growing italy that blocks him,
. but this usually just doesn't always happen.

< Germany remains with a 'weaker back' compared to his friend,
. he has three potential enemies there! He's being courageous.


- Diplomacy and Strategy in 1901

The V-H needs some discussion with the other Powers,
it's primary target is France, and secondth is Russia.
The Viking Hammer has other four Powers to deal with,
but they are quite far! Italy, Austria, Turkey and
Russia are mostly deeply embroiled in the very
considerations and tangles of their own region.


-> Review of all opposing Great Powers <-


* FRANCE * ('Main Objective')

= England ask for a mutual non-agression agreement
in the English Channel which is often accepted.
= Germany can say anything, so that the french
do not decide to try for munich in the fall.

The actual taking of France is not always easy, nor
is it really quick, but with the german forces pushing
in with three or four units, and the english with their
at least two fleets, plus an army already present on
the mainland, Paris and Brest don't stand a chance.
Then, there remains the three last iberean centers
to smoothly 'clean up'...


* Russia * ('The Corner to Get', or 'Secondth Target')

= Germany asks for a neutral zone around silesia.
= England tries to taunt russian into going for Norway.

As they bottleneck Russia on their mutual north, and
the only other possible neighbour that could have a say
somehow in what happens about France is Italy, and
usually only it's pressure upon Marseilles. Having
blocked Russia in Norway and Sweden, and that luckily
the Russian split his forces in 2, thus he'll gain
nothing from the north, which stays white as snow, and
probably only 1 unit from his south border. He can
doubtfully get two and that he could build if the unit
still in a bounced StP! Why would the english prefer
getting only on build on the first year? That is the
beauty of this tactical alliance, it can afford to
split the scandanavian north in two, leaving it
uncontested - and taken in it's due time.


* Italy * ('The Unwilling Cork')

= England talks about how he'd like to get Norway, etc...
= Germany asks for a neutral zone around tyrolia, and
ask italians to .

This southern fleet power often agrees off-handedly to simple
friendship offerings from both allies of the northenly V-H duo.
The Vikings ask the italians to move into Piemont, that's all,
just so the french are boxed in between them and Switzerland!
Or, to convince Italy that going for Austria is a good idea,
thus locking up it's units in an easterly direction. Even so,
Italy is the english players next target, and once he's popped
the balkans and turkey open up like a pried oyster.


* Austria-Hungary * ('Our Best Hope')

(Diplo:)
= England could give friendly suggestions.
= Germany basically asks for good relations.

It's in the middle of every body and is one of the
statistically weakest countries, it relies on fine
diploming to have a good game. If Austria gets the
upper hand, the italians, this shall make for
a much easier for the V-H to gain access into the
mediterranean sea.


* Turkey * ('The Ally in the Backpocket')

(Diplo:)
= England makes sure that Turkey believes that the
english weren't friendly to him.
= Germany asks for turk attack on russia, or
at least insures he gets only one build in the Fall.

Here is the *secret* weapon. One does not want him too
big and succesful since he is all the way across the
board and unreacheble until years have past... But if
turkey is prominent, he becomes the mutual enemy. So,
with the appropriate diplomacy from both V-H players
that should convince the turk to either block, weaken
or even erase Russia. The other option for the turk
is to go for after austria.


- Moves for 1902 and 1903 (The Invasion of France)

The french usually builds a fleet in Brest, bid deal!
Getting Paris quickly is the best bet, the rest
of the important provinces become peripheralized
and simpler to just pick off, one by one...

-> 1902 *Northern France Falls* <--> (Scandanavia is taken)

+ England -> Belgium to picardy, secure the english channel
& mid-atlantic ocean, making sure he never goes further...

+ Germany -> Get into burgundy supported by ruhr
The fleet in holland can go to the North Sea and offer support!
or, fleet in holland can hold, or go to kiel & then the Baltic!

-> 1903-04 *French No-More* <--> (Now maybe St-Petersburg)

+ England -> Brest is taken by now, and the Iberian peninsula
shall be soon all his. Then he moves into Western Mediterranean,
and might also push an army towards Moscow.

+ Germany -> Marseilles is taken or soon is, depending on Italy.
And he gathers his forces in balkans, russia is probably gone.


- Mid-game directions & suggestions

By now, what happened, yes in the past tense, in South, around
the Balkans determines respective lines of approach to the V-H
expansion. If they follow and support each other along their
mutual borders, and by good diplomacy, the other Great Powers
won't be able to put up fast enough any appropriate defenses,
nor reach any possible stalemate line to thwart the incoming
Viking Hammer...


- The aftermath ;-)

-> Can these two countries work well hand-in-hand for
a very long time?... Indeed they can, and even splendidly!
And, that is up to them to decide!...
Lummis (100 D)
03 Jul 09 UTC
Do you have a lesser known 'neighbour' alliance strategy to propose?
Lummis (100 D)
03 Jul 09 UTC
You can see my first, absolutely impressive , try at it:

http://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_play.php?game_id=11167
hellalt (24 D)
03 Jul 09 UTC
i like england-germany alliances...
Lummis (100 D)
03 Jul 09 UTC
;)
Lummis (100 D)
04 Jul 09 UTC
Anyone has strategy suggestions?
cteno4 (100 D)
04 Jul 09 UTC
I think your proposed split of Scandinavia is unrealistic. When Germany stands Russia out of Sweden, the end result is nearly ALWAYS a complete English occupation of the Scandinavian neutrals, including Denmark.
Lummis (100 D)
04 Jul 09 UTC
believe so? units can convoye easily through stp...
Depends on agreement between players.
I'll look at more old games here & there... ;-)
grncton (672 D)
04 Jul 09 UTC
I think your occupation of France in that game was assisted in no small part by the fact that France went into CD after Spring 1901. How would your plan react to the following things that a non-CD France could or would have done?
1) Occupy Munich in Fall 1901
2) Moved MAO-Por in Fall 1901 for a second (or third) build
3) Even without capturing Mun, use the two Iberian builds to place A Mar and A Par... Mar supports Bur to repel the German advance, while Par bounces Pic, and F Por/A Spa begin to position themselves for a counterattack. (If Mun is captured: perhaps build F Bre to take the Channel and threaten the English homeland directly?)
4) France convinces the Czar to join him in counterattacking Germany. England now must choose between picking up his first build (in 1902!) with Norway, or repelling the French as they sail up from MAO. Germany must choose between turning on the English in Belgium for an easy grab, or making peace with France and Russia by abandoning the alliance, or being hopelessly crippled by the F/R alliance within 3 or 4 turns.

And those objections really just cover the moves I'd expect to see through Fall 1902...
Lummis (100 D)
05 Jul 09 UTC
Anyone have a better name for this allaince ??
Knights Dawn (100 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
Tommy's Sour Kraut-

Tommy- WW1 and WW2 term for a British soldier
Sour- Angry, Mad, Sore
Kraut- WW1 and WW2 term for a German soldier
Lummis (100 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
a bad recioe ;-)
Lummis (100 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
p
Knights Dawn (100 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
Sucks to be France?
Lummis (100 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
Alternte Openings: mun-bur OR mun-ruh-BEL.


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yeunghauyip (1654 D)
06 Jul 09 UTC
How does the system decide who gets the retreat if two countries both retreats to that place?
May I ask if both countries are trying to the same place, which is the only choice for both countries, then how does the system decide who gets the retreat?
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qoou (434 D)
07 Jul 09 UTC
There was a recent post about a certain cool strategy that got bumped off the bottom
If I remember correctly, someone had made a post about something like the following (using a Germany being attacked by Russia as an example):
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bishopofRome (0 DX)
06 Jul 09 UTC
Moderator Email?
anyone know it?
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