There are no ways to leave a game. Now make sure to get all if your orders in on time so that you do not ruin the game for others.

Yes papa

Seriously though, if you do not put in orders for 2 consecutive phases your country will go into civil disorder hiwever that is very badly looked upon by the webdip community, and often can, and often does, ruin a game dor others. If you join a game you should be willing to finish it also, and shouldn't stop just because you're losing. If it's unavoidable and you will be gone for an extended period of time you should do one of 3 things: 1. Request a pause if you will not be gone for very long. 2. Find am account sitter. 3. Find someone who's willing to take over and then contact a mod and have them transfer the game to that person.

Thx again papa

Tv, your just a mountain of knowledge.

Not entering orders won't make a country go in to CD. You must not check in on the game for two consecutive turns.

Ssorenn, i was trying to help the noob out.

I'd almost like to request a change that just two turns of no orders makes a CD. If you can still check in on the game and keep the status active, it just further stalls the game by not allowing a new player to take over or complicates a draw and just allows an inconsiderate player to keep being inconsiderate.

Trip I don't believe that to be true.

I always thought it was two consecutive no orders entered. If that's the case, Marquis has the right idea

I just know this because it happened to me in a recent game. A player started losing so he quit submitting orders, but continued to log in and look in on the game so he never went CD. He ended up getting in on the draw because it was more of an inconvenience to dislodge all his units. I don't think it's fair for someone to be rewarded with a draw for 'taking his ball and going home' and is a loophole that might be better closed.

There would be a loophole either way. You could get around the "two turns of no orders" thing by simply submitting all holds. And you can't punish submitting all holds because it is sometimes a legitimate tactic.

That would be fine, at least he had to make that a conscious decision. Then you can make a case for never playing with that person again.

@ Hannibal76 - don't listen to these people. To leave a game simply log into the game, and then press Alt +F4.

Alright thanks guys. I don't want to leave a game I just wanted to be aware of how it's done.

And calm your tits people going on about being inconsiderate

uhhhhh

@Tasnica

Have you often had situations where it's tactically sound to submit all holds, with none of the units supporting each other? And for more than two turns in a row? Even when you're getting shellacked and going testudo, you're often support holding other units.

I'm not trying to be snarky. You've been playing this game a lot longer than I have and at a higher skill level than me so I would just like to know.

However, it doesn't change the fact that submitting all holds could get around CD criteria, even though doing so would be a King Dick move and get them added to the blacklist.

It doesn't work so well on this site, because it tells you when a player missed his last phase, but elsewhere, you can use it to pretend to NMR. That way, your opponents will assume you'll NMR and CD in the next turn, and you can use that assumption against him. Here, you can, with reduced effectiveness, pretend to be doing that sort of quitting.

Yeah, but when the status bar shows a green check mark and then all your moves turn out to be holds, it's pretty transparent.

I'd love some programming-mod clarification if possible [whether a missed phase / NMR can be negated by anything other than save/ready buttons]. There seems to be times when people can get rid of a NMR/missed-phase strike simply by being around; when I play live games and there's someone who's about to NMR or NMR'd last phase, I often refresh every couple seconds to the deadline and still don't see them submit moves but it still treats it as a submitted-all-hold rather than a NMR-all-hold.

Of course there's the distinct and likely possibility that it works exactly as advertised and I'm just not catching them submitting moves in the last second. But it's always all-holds; never last second moves.

Yes, in order for a player to CD, they need to miss two phases (ie, not open the game) where they have orders. Two NMRs will increase their NMR counter, but won't put them into Civil Disorder.

(Note: the NMR counter is currently broken. Stay tuned for an update on that sometime this week. Don't worry, they've been correctly counted so far, just not displayed).

The intention of this rule is to put players who are no longer playing in to civil disorder. NMR count is included in the upcoming reliability rating, so players who are NMRing but not CDing will still be punished.

You're right that it'd be a small improvement to change it to two NMRs rather than two missed phases. But with a todo list as long as ours is, I don't think we'll be making this change soon.

I think it's a low priority because players won't avoid reliability punishment by avoiding CDs but still NMRing. And, as noted above, players can enter all holds anyway, so if someone really wants to troll to throw a game while protecting their rating, they still can.

However, we're planning to have a pretty active year of site improvements - including reliability ratings and the ability to add games to a watch list (so you can follow games that you're not in). And many other small improvements and fixes.

~webdip programming team

That's for prompt and thorough response ATC!

MarquisMark: entering all holds is often the right thing to do for 1-2 centre powers who're waiting out the game on a stalemate line. Sometimes you don't have any supports you can give - or it's strategically sound to not pick a side, given the personalities surrounding you.

I'm sure Tas didn't mean that it's a good idea for larger powers to enter all holds :)

@Tin Can

Aha...I see, thank you for the clarification!

Indeed, what ATC said. Or maybe you're stuck on an island or something. Either way, it's not exactly common, but it is plausible enough that programming the site to kick players out who intentionally all-hold twice in a row is a bad idea.

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I've been considering getting into the hobby but it's expensive and I'm not sure where to start. Was wondering if anyone on here plays, or has played it before or had any advice?


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It's only expensive if you give your Chase account number to the friendly forum posters who ask for it!

You can give it to me though. I'm an unfriendly forum poster.

steephie's safe. she might even add to you acc. balance.

She? Good marketing trick.

Sry, I thought steephie was a girl's nickname >< (and I admit I might have inferred somewhat from your math thread as well)