i think they were extreme left at one point. somehow the media is telling the masses now to think they are extreme right. and after the republicans get back in next term who knows they might become extreme left again. funny how that works.

@redhouse i think blankflag was extremely old at one point. somehow the forum is telling the masses now to think he is extremely new. and after the mods get back in next thread who knows he might become extremely old again. funny how that works.

Gotcha. How's your saving of the world coming along, TMoW?

They don't style themselves as "left" or "right"... Certainly I wouldn't describe them as a "patriot group".

I'm almost peaking on this graph:
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2868

Development aid doesn't help? I'm so shocked! ;-)

Just kidding, tell us about what you do, TMOW!

You should put "We Are Change" in quotation marks, or at least capitalize it. Otherwise "is we are change right wing" sounds like the worst grammar ever.

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blankflag doesn't listen to grammar advice, he figures we should have to work to read his shit. The funny thing is he expects to be taken seriously nonetheless.

he writes like e e cummings

Ha! Development aid does work actually! The sector is rightly getting a hard time to force them to prove it, but it does work. One of the core issues is just that if you commit to it 0,7%, you also get 0,7% of the desired result. ;-)

Hmm. So what makes it so great?

i just thought of something. maybe they think the public is so polarized that they can even have democrats believing that they are extreme right (and being told that on msnbc) while republicans believing they are extreme left (hearing that on fox or something) and have them both believe these opposite definitions at the same time. could their control over the media be so extensive to allow for such testicular fortitude?

So great? I don't know if it is. But I've worked around, and tend to think my current organization does it better than the rest, because they focus on helping people to change the world themselves. And also, though dev orgs rarely admit it, the succesful ones focus on value transferal. Teaching the people the value of integrity over corruption, participation over control. If you get that right, it's amazing what people can do to change their own societies. The dev orgs who try to do stuff by themselves rarely get anywhere.

@ hecks:

What a great comment.

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as long as were not writing upside down or in hex under an ascii encoding or some other stupidity like that.

Jamie, did you mean something like this?

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Except, obviously, without the periods creating the indention?

@ dumbdell - Yeah brilliant that's exactly what I was going for.

@ blankflag - Use a fucking apostrophe when you write the word "we're", you pathetic shit.

hahahaha
for you how about i remove periods as well
any punctuation marks are just unnecessary distraction

No, you idiot, they aren't. They are part of the fucking language. Stop being a moron.

@blankflagifeelexactlythesamewayexceptialsothinkthatspacesareanunnecessarydistractionsoimgoingtostopusingthemaswellandithinkitsentirelyreadablethiswayandithinkeveryoneelseshouldtoothanks

@Jamie,
I'd totally join an e e cummings variant game. Public press only, no capitalization, no punctuation, all comments must be made in deliberately vague e e cummings style poems. Make that happen!

blankflag, you are a deplorably poor idiot. You can't even idiot things correctly. If you remove formal punctuation marks but replace them with "returns" or tabbing, then you have not increased confusion for the reader. A lack of periods when each thought is contained to its own stratum is not a bother. When sentences run into each other and there is no distinguishing of thoughts due to a lack of formal punctuation (for example, "is we are change right wing?"), then there is confusion and a decline in the readability of a communication.

@hecks, curiously, your mockery of blankflag is more readable than half the posts this fellow has made.

Who apart from hecks is up for an e e cummings-press only game?

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Never mind then.

Jamie, this thread was probably muted by most persons. Try making a new thread for interest. SYnapse and krellin are writers. Maybe they'll play?

@blankface: See you used parentheses. Yes, punctuation is very important for written communication. That's why it was invented thousands of years before you were even considered a possible (unfortunate) addition to the world.

e e cummings - sounds good

@jamie: I'm willing to give it a try.

Timur, be fair. It's only hundreds of years old, not thousands.

I saw a comma, an exclamation mark and a semi-colon, even, in a pyramid once. Hieroglyphics. Punctuated.

Interesting question. When was punctuation regularised? I have no idea.

how about an e e milne game?

this is an e e milne game
i am eeyore owl and a touch of tigger

punctuation question still stands unanswered

guess we have no punctuation experts out there
it is obviously a field needing filled
unemployed take note

Gods, man, lmgtfy.com/?q=punctuation+history+wiki

Apparently it is as old as 8th century BC in one text, 5th century BC otherwise, so technically, yes, punctuation is thousands of years old. However, modern symbols and their usages are only a few hundred (didn't read far enough to get a hard date).

Anyway, tarry on with your insults. They're technically correct.

No insults intended, believe me. I hope my observations were not taken as such.

It's A A Milne, not E E.

its e e from now on in bless his soul
a a cummings agrees and is equally blessed