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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
30 Jan 13 UTC
test
I dare you to lock this.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
27 Jan 13 UTC
WW2 Variant (new thread) Preview ***
Here is the very very first version of my WW2 map to look at. I already posted a thread about this but basically the I just need some advice on the map. Is there anything that strikes you as obviously geographically or historically inaccurate at this stage? Before I go adding supply centres and things.

http://s14.postimage.org/ii23utsxs/preview.jpg
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
29 Jan 13 UTC
Brutality of British troops in Iraq
Burden of Shame
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21241088
The country may change .... but not the behaviour
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
29 Jan 13 UTC
Israel needs no human rights review.
Unlike Syria and North Korea, which did in fact open up to criticism.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21249431
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
29 Jan 13 UTC
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I'm all for gayness ..... but surely not the Scouts !!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21239941
Next thing you know they'll have pink neckerchiefs, sing YMCA songs and have badges for dress-making and empathy
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
29 Jan 13 UTC
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"But Mr Smith said a change in their policy banning atheists was not being considered."

Yup, that sounds about right.
Draugnar (0 DX)
29 Jan 13 UTC
@abge - The Boyscouts are a private Christian organization and can do what they like. Be thankful they are starting to reverse their views of gays. But as a Christian organization they will not (nor should they) reverse their views on atheism.
RampantLion (937 D)
29 Jan 13 UTC
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The Boy Scouts of America aren't technically a Christian organization though, even if by far most of the members are and that those who lead it via the National Headquarters in Texas are (part of the root of the problem). The BSA doesn't care what religion you are, as long as you believe in a higher power they believe you can fit in their organization and become a moral person. Which leads us to the problem. They refuse to recognize that atheists and agnostics can be good and moral people too. I severely wish they would change their position on this, or at least let it be allowed on the local level. I was in the BSA and between me and the other 8 or so friends in my age group who also became Eagle Scouts, half were atheist/agnostic and the other half I simply never heard their opinions one way or another. Though this was unknown to the adults, the religious aspect of the organization was never more than a nominal aspect of our troop. You mention god in the Pledge of Allegiance and the Scout Oath/Law at the beginning of meetings, and there are maybe a couple events per year where there was a prayer before event, but that was it. I don't think we had anyone who was gay even try to join our troop so it never came up and I can't say for certain how the adults in our troop would have handled that. Pretty much every kid I knew in the BSA agreed that both the policies against gays and against atheists/agnostics should be changed so those groups could be allowed in. But then again I'm from a solidly blue state.

A key quote from the below link:
The BSA version of the Scout Law states in part: "A Scout is reverent. He is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties and respects the convictions of others in matters of custom and religion." The BSA "Declaration of Religious Principle" states that "no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation of God and, therefore, recognizes the religious element in the training of the member, but it is absolutely nonsectarian in its attitude toward that religious training. Its policy is that the home and organization or group with which the member is connected shall give definite attention to religious life."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_emblems_programs_(Boy_Scouts_of_America)
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
29 Jan 13 UTC
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Lol no wonder I wasn't a boy scout. Must be religious to be the "best kind of citizen?" Tell me more!

What rot.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Jan 13 UTC
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I dropped out of Boy Scouts in sixth grade when they forced me to read from the Bible in order to get some dumb badge.
TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
29 Jan 13 UTC
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Wow, I'm glad I just joined the cool scouting groups where we lit fires and sailed boats. Never been confronted with any bible thankfully.
ulytau (541 D)
29 Jan 13 UTC
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W/e, Czech scouting has been God-optional for more than a century already.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
29 Jan 13 UTC
well done bo!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Jan 13 UTC
The thing about Boy Scouts is that everyone paints it as a great organization from the outside. At some levels, it is. Still, you see the things like troop leaders that are convicted sexual predators in some cases and you see gay members being kicked out for doing nothing but service throughout their entire lives. You see atheists being told to go fuck themselves in a corner for upholding the code of honor that we were all forced to memorize. That's all they did. It's purely prejudiced yet it's such a highly regarded organization that it's taken years for all this to come out.

When they told me to read, they wanted me to read a passage out of Deuteronomy. If the passage was from the five books in the Torah, they considered it religiously neutral only after protests from within the organization a few months after I joined. It never went public; they had too much money wrapped up in their PR and they still do. They obviously thought of themselves as a high class Christian organization but it was clear they were only demeaning to those that didn't agree with them rather than accepting of those that simply wanted to help the community like everyone else.

My grandfather wrote for the Star (Indy paper) at the time and he pushed his editor to allow him to do a story on situations like mine. The editor, who I'll leave nameless because he's still with the Star, called the troop I was in and asked some questions. They essentially blew off my entire claim. Of course it was never going to be a story anyway, who was I but some sixth grader, but still, it just showed what they were really for to me. So yeah, that's about why I left.

When we crossed the ropes going from Cub Scouts to Boy Scouts, they had a minister reading from the Bible there. I was too young to give it a second thought. I don't personally remember it but my parents told me that they'd done that a number of other times in the past. To this day I don't know what they would have done with me had I told them I was atheist (which I consider myself to be), but it was probably best for both parties that I left altogether.

They took a lot of kids' dreams away, including mine. All I wanted was to be an Eagle Scout for most of my elementary school life and I would have been forced to read from the Bible a number of times between sixth grade and that point in my senior year I'd assume. Maybe I sound like I'm offering up a sob story, but I genuinely wanted that. It's too bad they couldn't let me because they had their own imaginary values to uphold.


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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
23 Jan 13 UTC
Don't give up on Israel, they're not all religious lunatics
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21087019

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orathaic (1009 D(B))
28 Jan 13 UTC
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Feminism not gone far enough?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/27/richard-graham-rape-comments-short-skirts-high-heels_n_2563562.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

My question: is this lawyer just asking to be murdered by militant feminists?
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cspieker (18223 D)
29 Jan 13 UTC
FTF tourney Seattle, this weekend
See http://www.facebook.com/events/513309532014083/ for info
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Jan 13 UTC
One of the greatest protests ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7JPeeRG2HGo
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
28 Jan 13 UTC
Feminism done just right
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Jan 13 UTC
Arts and Crafts
Wanted to show off the newest project my roommate and I just finished:
http://tinyurl.com/b8ngoyo http://tinyurl.com/bbz7k9v
http://tinyurl.com/alo43gt
Anyone else working on anything fun?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
26 Jan 13 UTC
Cheating... (on spouse or taxes)
See inside.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
18 Jan 13 UTC
Let Me Ask the Question, Gun Owners and Advocates--Why?
Not wealthy should you be allowed to own guns--you should, the 2nd Amendment gives you that right--but why this is treated so often as the line in the sand...why, in short, do you seem value guns so highly as to seem to approach the point of fanatical worship (at least that's how it appears to some of us on the outside.) There is one answer I'm not buying (and I'll give it below) but aside from that...I have to know--why do value your guns seemingly first and foremost?
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
26 Jan 13 UTC
William Hartnell - the first Doctor Who
The first episode of a 4 part series is on BBC America, Sunday 27th January. http://nerdbastards.com/2013/01/24/bbc-america-to-air-classic-doctor-who-episodes-in-order/
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
26 Jan 13 UTC
Justice - Egyptian style
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21209808
Yet another reason why we shouldn't interfere in the internal affairs of sovereign states, the people they elect can be worse than the people they replace.
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Timur (684 D(B))
25 Jan 13 UTC
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Diplomacy causes violence
It has just been reported that several recent stabbings in ******** were inspired by an online game called 'Diplomacy', which encourages players to 'stab' others as a major part of gameplay.
The perpetrators have denied any knowledge of the game, but mentioned the name 'Timur'. He has been tracked down to the Far East and is currently being hunted. (As usual. Never been caught yet :~)
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potatoe (108 D)
27 Jan 13 UTC
someone join this game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=109310
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BigZT (1602 D)
27 Jan 13 UTC
Join our 14 hour turn game!
We are well on our way to a game with a 40 buy-in and 14 hour turns. We hope you'll join us. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=109196
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Jan 13 UTC
Safest form of power plant?
see: http://nextbigfuture.com/2008/03/deaths-per-twh-for-all-energy-sources.html

Basically a count of deaths per Watt-hour of energy. What is that safest? Discuss.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
25 Jan 13 UTC
Join me in welcoming our newest moderator
Good luck Tom Bombadil, thanks for volunteering your time.
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
27 Jan 13 UTC
Catholic Church is pro-choice when it suits them
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/26/us/colorado-fetus-lawsuit/index.html
So this catholic hospital due to malpractice saw twin boys get killed. The Father tried to sue and lost on the grounds that the fetuses were not considered life. Apparently the catholic church is pro-life only when it suits them.
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
27 Jan 13 UTC
Rio Rehost
gameID=109275

You all know the password. If not message me or post.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
28 Jul 12 UTC
Webdip leagues (Fall/Autumn 2012)
Post here if interested.
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Mintyboy4 (100 D)
26 Jan 13 UTC
How many people actually Multi?
I was just thinking about this, going through people's games, so frequently I see a big red cross and upon clicking the players name. ''Banned for multi''

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semck83 (229 D(B))
25 Jan 13 UTC
Where is President Eden?
Anybody know? He hasn't been on since 12/28.
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BengalGrrl (146 D)
26 Jan 13 UTC
Suspected cheating in game Dungeness Spit
I suspect that there is cheating on game Dungeness Spit. Either E & F are the same player or they are meta-gaming together. Who do I contact to look into this?
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vexlord (231 D)
25 Jan 13 UTC
take a break
If you take off from this game for a couple months, then come back, its like an entirely new game. each message has more weight, more meaning. for all you dipaholics, i highly recommend it!!
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
25 Jan 13 UTC
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JJ Abrams to Direct next Star Wars
Yes, you read that right Star WARS. I think we can all agree this is more important than anything else currently being discussed.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/24/3912758/j-j-abrams-will-reportedly-direct-the-next-star-wars-film
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hecks (164 D)
25 Jan 13 UTC
My First Solo!
Three months, 25 games completed, and I finally won my first solo! Hooray for not being a "political puppet" anymore!
gameID=107244
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
24 Jan 13 UTC
David Cameron's speech on the EU
So what are people's thoughts on his speech and referendum plans?
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