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BastiaanRoseboom (0 DX)
05 Oct 12 UTC
Noob asking for help.
Seeing WTA Gunboat.. What does it mean?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
03 Oct 12 UTC
Poker tonight
Of to play poker tonight – 23 players registered so far including Joe ‘The Elegance’ Beevers ($2.5m in winnings); Julian Thew ($2.7m); Micky ‘The Worm’ Wernick ($1m); Marc Goodwin ($2.15m); Ben Jackson ($180,000); Paul ‘Actionjack’ Jackson ($1.4m); and Ash Hussain ($1.1m) – Wish me luck – I think I’m going to need it
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
04 Oct 12 UTC
Presidential Debates
Who's watching? Thoughts?
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Celticfox (100 D(B))
04 Oct 12 UTC
NFL Picks Week 5
Weekly picks for this weeks NFL games
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rokakoma (19138 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
Gangnam Style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0

Why do you think this video became so viral?
Mapu (362 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
Catchy tune, charismatic guy, fun dancing. It's easy and fun to watch. I don't think there's a much deeper reason than that.
rokakoma (19138 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
@Mapu: there are hundreds of videoclips with the same properties, they don't make daiy 10-20 million views though. It's very likely this is going to be the most watched video ever on youtube before the end of the yeas. So while your reasoning is true, I think it's far from adequate to explain the phenomenon.
http://www.ted.com/talks/kevin_allocca_why_videos_go_viral.html Here's a guy who works YouTube with his thoughts on why some videos go viral... as for this video, I couldn't really offer an explanation.

I would say it is kind of a lottery which videos/memes/articles go viral.
rokakoma (19138 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
@Stackelberg: thanks this is a good video ...
Celticfox (100 D(B))
03 Oct 12 UTC
I actually liked his video Right Now better. Catcher tune, but it doesn't have a catchy dance like Gangnam does.
It was in anticipation of the cover by Pentatonix posted yesterday.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
03 Oct 12 UTC
It was in a musical language everyone can understand (Kpop), delivered by a funny and gifted guy, with a ridiculous video to boot.

Outside of Korea it was interesting that it was from Korea. Many/most of the people who have seen this video did not have any/much exposure to Korean pop culture before. So it was novel.
By the way, I think I watched Gangnam Style four times yesterday. Over the course of the day the view count for the particular one I watched went from 347M to 350M. Gangnam Style has a good mix of catchy and whacky and fresh/different. It is accessible and alien at the same time. The video reminds me of LMFAO's Sexy and I Know It.
Mapu (362 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
Yeah except that one is too vulgar to get so many views.
Celticfox (100 D(B))
03 Oct 12 UTC
Here's what I call the Pikachu version of Gangnam style: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcLNteez3c4&feature=relmfu
The song is characterized by its strongly addictive beats and lyrics, and is thus certain to penetrate the foundations of modern philosophy.
TheJok3r (765 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
"It's very likely this is going to be the most watched video ever on youtube before the end of the yeas."

I was wondering what the most viewed video was when I saw how many views this was getting. It must have been a bad day yesterday. Only 8M views? That shit is weak.
TheJok3r (765 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
And by 8, I mean 9.7. Fuck my math.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
04 Oct 12 UTC
He's like the Korean Lou Bega.
rokakoma (19138 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
@Joker: justin bieber is the first :)
784 million :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kffacxfA7G4
Celticfox (100 D(B))
04 Oct 12 UTC
Ok gotta help Gangnam style beat that then.
TheJok3r (765 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
I could easily watch this video 4 times a day lol
TheJok3r (765 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
Also, I love how the Bieber video has 784 million views, yet it has a 2:1 dislike to like ratio.
rokakoma (19138 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
It seems the guy know how to make a huge concert. Sooo many people :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVi2iimv8J8
JECE (1253 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
My introduction to Gangnam Style was !@#$% CNN this August.
TheJok3r (765 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
I like this one from one of his live concerts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX372ZwXOEM&feature=related
rokakoma (19138 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
hilarious! amazing! impressive! thanks! ;)
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
04 Oct 12 UTC
Who is jok3r is he new
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Oct 12 UTC
I would argue that You can't understand why it went viral by just looking at the qualities of the song itself.

Going viral is a feature of the social sharing, which requires the study of humans not merely of the music video.

So points made about kpop being unusual, and foreign for most audiences are just about the only ones which start to answer this question.

Other things make an audience receptive - pointing out the beat/style/catchy-ness mere highlights some necessary qualities of the song - other songs with these qualities may not go viral, but other songs without can not go viral.

However pointing these out in the context of what other people already k ow - accessible but alien - or contrasted with other musical genres which are already 'in the wild', will give some extra information.

However what is already out there is changed by this one video; it is comparable to an avalanche, one it happens the shape of the mountain side has been altered; another avalanche will happen, and it may be sooner (because the new shape is unstable) or later, Also it ma be bigger or smaller (again depending on the new landscape)

In term of the musical landscape, overplaying some music does make it go stale, and if some people keep hearing it (because it is everywhere) this will disincline them to share/listen to another similar piece, just like an avalanche can create a more stable system - this person is less likely to share that new piece.

So it was well timed, like sowing seeds on freshly tilled soil. The fertile minds were ready to pick up this meme and spread it.

Personally i think it is crap, can't stand the cheese.

Notice, 50 shades of grey and the london riots (2011) followed a similar pattern. The ground was ready for a big event.

This kind of behaviour is called self-organised criticality.

The other example doesn't seem the same, the 2012 London Olympics spread excitememt/happiness like a virus, but it was designed, constructed to be the event it became... We seem more impressed when things happen by accident; it would far more impressive to orchestrate such an accident!
This is a pretty good spin-off by some army cadets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa4RLoG9234


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achillies27 (100 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
WHO HERE WANTS TO DESTROY ACHILLIES?
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
Wanna say something stupid?
If you feel bored and have something stupid to say, post it here
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akilies (861 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
Anybody here a CFA?
Trying to figure out what exactly I want to do with my life. I know I either want to get into Financial Analysis or Supply Chain Analysis but after that I'm not quite sure. I'm leaning towards Financial as that was my major in college.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
04 Oct 12 UTC
Only in Canada haha
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/04/14218044-only-in-canada-seized-maple-syrup-gets-police-protection?lite&ocid=msnhp
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
26 Sep 12 UTC
Extreme Personalities Game
Ever wanted to play a Diplomacy Game where your best ally was obsessed with capturing territories that produce the best horses? Think you can win a game in which players attack you because they suspect you of Colonialism? Ready to try to plan invasions with people who insist on building fleets - only fleets?

In this simple Diplomacy variant, YOU CAN! PM me if you want to play and I'll send you details. It will be a small 4 point, PPSC game.
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Mapu (362 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
EoG - Robots Need Love Too
Game: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=99118

This was the "cheap game" that Frank organized on this thread: http://www.webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=911148#911148
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
04 Oct 12 UTC
Completely off topic, but worth a look...
especially number 3.

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2012/10/02/science/20121002-SKULLS.html
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Oct 12 UTC
So, we discussed Flanks vs. Center parties, now we move on:
District system or Proportional representation?
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CSteinhardt (9560 D(B))
04 Oct 12 UTC
Bad Connection
I have a bad internet connection.
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podium (498 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
I need help frustrated
When I scroll from game to game or different websites after awhile it takes forever to load.
Tried everything I can think of to correct this issue.
Only thing that works and for a short time is unplugging my modem.but soon the problem is back.
What do I need to turn off or on.to prevent this?
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erist (228 D(B))
04 Oct 12 UTC
Need replacement Austria
Game has not started yet. Who wants to play the Archduke?(Austria banned - multiaccounting)

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=101018
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
live gunboat EOG
gameID=101040,
congrats to The Mods are idiots,nice win!
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Oct 12 UTC
League of Legends
Anyone play? If so...anyone interested in creating a LoL guild and setting up some regular play time? if you haven't played...think ex-Blizzard (Warcraft) guys create the ultimate PvP game.
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The Mods are Idiots (0 DX)
04 Oct 12 UTC
I just hate black people.
Alot.
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President Eden (2750 D)
04 Oct 12 UTC
GARY JOHNSON 2012
END THE WARS SMOKE WEED IN PEACE
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Mertvaya Ruka (275 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
EoG: Not for Newbies
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=99093
This was an amazing game. Lots of betrayals and unexpected events. I had a great time playing. Thanks everyone.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
03 Oct 12 UTC
EoG: Europuzzle-2
...where Zmaj shows he's learned a thing or two from SplitDiplomat.
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brainbomb (290 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
Europuzzle-2
gameID=101017
To me the only thing puzzling about this game is why people kept leaving. This game was horrible from the beginning with a Russia missing moves the entire first year. Dishonorable players just kept playing anyways hoping for a solo, which did eventually happen.
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President Eden (2750 D)
03 Oct 12 UTC
This should be fun
http://i.imgur.com/XThti.jpg
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Oct 12 UTC
My Affirmative Action Surgeon...
Amputated the wrong leg and put my heart valve in backwards...
....but hey, race relations are GREAT!

Let's put more under-qualified students in places they didn't earn the right to go!
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yebellz (729 D(G))
03 Oct 12 UTC
Welcome Our New Mod!
jmo1121109 userID=15658

Remember, the rules page provides information on how and when to contact the moderators:
http://webdiplomacy.net/rules.php
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krellin (80 DX)
02 Oct 12 UTC
OFRO - Our Future Robot Overlords
…to be given a free “hand” on the trigger?
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/10/01/professor-drones-will-soon-be-able-to-kill-during-war-without-human-assistance/
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urallLESBlANS (0 DX)
30 Sep 12 UTC
Iran and Israel
I'd like to ask, what do people think when they hear about Iran or Ahmadinejad or Khamenei talking about the elimination of the Israel.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
02 Oct 12 UTC
Shocking news
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/america-could-taken-over-warns-ross-perot-152428497.html
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
02 Oct 12 UTC
EoG: WTA-GB-166
Thank you for a great game, gentlemen.
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