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spyman (424 D(G))
19 May 12 UTC
Documentary recommendations?
Can anyone recommend a really good documentary? At the moment I am interested in the history of the European settlement of America. Maybe the Jamestown settlement or the Mayflower... that sort of thing. Anyone know of some decent docs which fit the bill (or any other great docs you think are worthwhile on any subject).
Emac (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
Spyman, I saw a good Maryland Public TV film called On the Trail of Captain John Smith: Rediscovering Chesapeake Bay. A modern day crew sailed a replica of his ship following his journal in the Chesapeake.
SunZi (1275 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Not in the period of history you're looking for but I recently saw an interesting documentary called 'Americas Stone Age Explorers' which is mostly about new discoveries shedding light on the settlement of America from Asia but also touches on a theory of early European settlement.
krellin (80 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
Anything by Ken Burns
SacredDigits (102 D)
19 May 12 UTC
I think the documentary version of Guns, Germs, and Steel was pretty neat. You can agree or disagree with Jared Diamond, but it's an interesting idea.
fiedler (1293 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Yeh the answer to everything is in Guns, Germs and Steel.
Bwahahahaahaa! :)))) But seriously, type 'Adam Curtis' into youtube and prepare your mind to be blown. 'It Felt Like A Kiss' is particularly trippy.
semck83 (229 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
I always think "American Movie" when I think great documentaries. Of course, it's got absolutely nothing to do with your interest, I'm afraid.
spyman (424 D(G))
19 May 12 UTC
My interest is pretty broad actually. I'll be most likely searching usenet or torrents - so what I end up watching will depend on what I can find. So I appreciate suggestions on any topic.

Krellin, I have watched quite a few Ken Burns documentaries. They're awesome. The last one I watched was the one he made on the Lewis and Clark expedition. I have also seen The Civil War and New York. I have his series on Baseball but I haven't watched it yet.

SD - yes i have seen Guns Germs and Steel, and I have read the book. I don't think Jard Diamond is necessarily 100% correct about every detail, but I think his general thesis is on the money, especially the East-West axis of Eurasia versus the North-South axis of the America's, with the former making it easier for technology to spread. This idea is very plausible.

SunZi - how did people to get the Americas? Yes, that is a fascinating subject. Was it around 13 to 14 thoudand years ago - or could it have been earlier. Did they follow a coastal route or was it via an ice corridor? Interesting questions.
Another topic about North America I would find interesting is how the Native Amricans really lived. I think would make an excellent maxi-series.


Thucydides (864 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
I second spyman I'd love if someone knew any films at all on the subject of European colonization of America.
largeham (149 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Michael Moore




/jks Anything by Louis Theroux and Shadow Company
Wernazuma (589 D)
19 May 12 UTC
There is a "500 nations" documentary series, don't know how good it really is. The Alwin M. Josephy book 500 nations is a neat easy overview IMHO.
Wernazuma (589 D)
19 May 12 UTC
@Thucydides: Films or documentaries? There's tons of both. :-) What aspect? North America/South America; topic? "The Columbian Exchange" e.g. is another "general" approach, that can be watched complementary to Jared Diamond's documentary - though I have to confess that I find Diaond too simplistic anyway. He rakes up a mix of bits that everyone working on the subject knows anyway and makes it a theory of everything. But the general idea is good enough and I guess such "in-jared ports" between science and public are necessary...
Octavious (2802 D)
19 May 12 UTC
The BBC did a series of documentaries on pre-colonial African civalisations a little while back that was rather good. I think it was called "Lost Kingdoms of Africa", but even if the name's slightly different it should be easu enough to find. A bit far removed from America, but well worth a look :)
spyman (424 D(G))
19 May 12 UTC
Octavios, I actually downloaded the episodes on the Asante and Zulu Kingdoms a few night ago. I started watching the Asante episode late at night, but I fell asleep. Not because it was boring but because I was really tired. It was good I'll watch he rest of it soon.
Yonni (136 D(S))
19 May 12 UTC
The King of King
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
19 May 12 UTC
krellin's correct, Ken Burns has a lot of good ones (if you like baseball--I think I recall you're a fellow Mets sufferer, er, fan?--his 10-part "Baseball" documentary is GREAT)...

There are a lot of documentaries on famous authors I like on YouTube...

One on Oscar Wilde...
One on George Eliot...
One on the Bronte Sisters...
One on Charles Dickens' real-world locations (2-parts, with Sir Derek Jacobi...)

Probably my favorite one is one with T.S. Eliot, partially because...well, it's T.S. Eliot, and he's my favorite all-around poet (Shakespeare has sonnets and Milton epic poetry, Eliot's sort of a poet's poet, he could do shorter poems, longer ones, have them rhyme with meter, be free verse, he could plug anything in there from classical literature and symbolism and languages to modern references, he just could do it all) and partially just because of how much and how many different aspects of his life and times they look at, even the stuff that isn't too complimentary too him, like Litvinoff's accusation he was an Anti-Semite and the story behind his infamous poem "To T.S. Eliot" where he blasts him, and he read it in a big public poetry meeting with Eliot present (and the story goes Eliot just leaned over to a friend and said "It's a good poem," and that's it...personally I don't think he was an Anti-Semite, he had Jewish friends, he was just a product of his times and was so used to using symbols in his poetry in classical senses...well, "classically," Jews weren't positive symbols in a lot of Western literature, it's there with Marlowe and Shakespeare and Dickens and plenty other English writers, and then of course he was friends with Ezra Pound...so yeah, I don't see him as an Anti-Semite and just a malicious Jew-hater the way Wagner, say, was, he just was a bit blinded or uncaring perhaps to how those negative symbols really stung with people in a post-WWI and then post-Holocaust world...but then, they WERE classic archetypes, and that's what a lot of his poetry is, twisting around old archetypes and showing them to be "a heap of broken images," so...yeah, I've gone on way too long, watch the documentary!)

:)

Also--

Richard Dawkins has some good ones (obviously)...

And "Planet Earth" is AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL, I mean, that just brings out the full beauty of the planet, spectacular, I don't know if it won any awards, I'm sure it won something, and rightfully so, it's breathtaking, check it out!
Mario4Ever (100 D)
19 May 12 UTC
America: The Story of Us
Emac (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
Planet Earth was gogeous. There is one on the oceans too, Blue Planet Seas of life I think.
There is a good history channel program on the Pilgrims called Desperate Crossing.
I'm not much of a documentary fan, but I liked Hoop Dreams (1994), Kids (1995), and Murderball (2005).

Murderball trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1JxmHxR2w
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
I really enjoyed Jimmy Carter's autobiography. I forget what it was called, but I think it had Christmas in the title. Thin book covering his youth mostly. Sort of an early years autobiography. Chuck Norris' autobiography was also excellent althoughbthe writing isn't up to President Carter's quality. I guess President's get better ghostwriters. :-)
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
19 May 12 UTC

Robert Hughs or Hughes documentary on American art representing / recording
American History
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
19 May 12 UTC

oh thats North American history
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
19 May 12 UTC

Chuck Norris?? you have to be taking the piss with that suggestion, Draugnar
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Highly recommend Anvil: The Story of Anvil. Great story of one of the original heavy metal bands that never quite made it big.
greysoni (160 D)
19 May 12 UTC
I second Adam Curtis documentaries. Excellent stuff. "The Trap", "Century of the Self", "Power of Nightmares" all recommended.
krellin (80 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
Best Documentary ever: Spinal Tap....<giggles....>
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
@Major - Not at all. Have you read it? Don't pass judgement until you do.
semck83 (229 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
King of Kong is pretty good as well. It's about record-setting Donkey Kong players. Crazy.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
20 May 12 UTC
@ Draugnar
I've seen Mr Chuck Norris close up when he visited Sydney
I am also aware of the results of his visit to Kings Cross (nightclub / "red light"
district of Syney ) when he decided to be the tough guy & the manner of his air
transportation back to the US.

Does he mention that little sojourn in his book ?
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
20 May 12 UTC
I also take exception to the misrepresentation of the results of indiscriminate
& "targeted" gunfire in his banal "Texas Rangers" tv product

Anyone who thinks that you can use firearms in the ways depicted and get the results
also depicted has a strictly Pollyanna like, or Romantic Fiction (strong on fantasy,
hyperbole and innaccuracy ) Novelists conception of the real world
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
20 May 12 UTC

@ Draugnar
one example
Chuck is on the steps of the plane, about to leave Beirut
( after singlehandedly defeating the local PLO crew )
confronted by a crowd.
from an elevated position he discharges a approx .45 calibre handgun
to make a warning shot to a crowd of hostile persons waving & shouting at him.
He aims the handgun at the ground & the special effects indicate a bullet impact
on the ground "at the feet" of the crowd.

No one gets hit by the ricochet bullet, including Chuck

Now I reckon if someone like Mythbusters set up the shot & repeated it
more than 80 % of ricochets would hit at least one person and with a . 45 slug at that close range even clip a couple in the crowd.

Ricochet bullets can take the most surprising paths, including back at the shooter

I suggest that if you got say an M16 & fired "two full clips" at a slight mound of hard
packed ground about 40 metres from you, let alone 4 metres, there will be ricochet
bullets that come whizzing back past you, & there is a chance that, unprotected you
can be hit by your own bullet.

But as I say, you don't have to worry, when you got out a - shootin' with Dick Cheney
about the ones that whizz just past & miss you.

They've missed you & are gone.
Concentrate on the source(s) of fire & figure out how to take them out without getting
clipped yourself.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
20 May 12 UTC

Rule one
Don't get clipped or let a mate get clipped.

It's not our task to die for our nation etc etc
our task is to make plenty of the other crowds chaps die for their cause without
acheiving any success against us.

mission at any ( human ) cost is for psychopaths
mission at no cost / absolute minimum cost in personnel on our side and "civilians"
is the "philosophy" of perhaps some elite units I would suggest, but hey Draugnar,
you've chosen Chuck as an authority on American History / Culture and presumably
on military matters, what can I say, bon ami, i think you will need it.

I suppose we can dismiss Gore Vidal, Hemingway, Jackson Pollock, the famous
architect whose name escapes me, & Dale Carnegie as irrelevant nonentities
( and Orson Welles and Walt Whitman and Mark Twain )
when compared to Mr Chuck Norris
Ancient Aliens.
SunZi (1275 D)
20 May 12 UTC
@President Eden
You've got to be taking the piss! Tsoukalos's hair alone renders the series unwatchable let alone the tedious dialogue and lack of any real investigation.
largeham (149 D)
20 May 12 UTC
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/158/329/9189283.jpg
Draugnar (0 DX)
20 May 12 UTC
@MajorM - It's a TV show. Geez. He is an actor now. The book is about how the service and Martial Arts saved his life by getting off a path of self destruction. Until you have read it, don't judge it. Nuff said.


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cspieker (18223 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Challenge game over at Playdip.com
Top 30 GR player wanted
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kremen (106 D)
20 May 12 UTC
EoG: Fast Gunboat WTA
Huh... Turkey CAN win! gameID=89373
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AtomicOrangutan (75 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Join my game!
Hey if anyone is interested in playing a simple Classic game join 300 The Legend 2.0. The betting is cheap and its winner takes all
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President Eden (2750 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Is the Benelux geography the key feature in gunboat games?
I was writing a post on playdiplomacy's forum in a thread asking for country rankings in gunboat, and it struck me that the bottleneck between Switzerland and the English Channel totally changes the dynamic of the game when communication is gone. C/P from the post - read on.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
No more growth?
http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2012/04/economist-meets-physicist/#more-894
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
EoG: Cheap Gunboat-9
Live games are the thing, not these affairs that take weeks...
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
Porn
Time to talk about porn. There are a couple of topics we can choose from.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
20 May 12 UTC
How's Jesus doing, is he back yet?
I'm sure when he gets back he'll be over the moon to see what Israelis are doing to the Palestinians, backed by the Yanks and the Eurotrash
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therhat (104 D)
19 May 12 UTC
I am a Troll
Just want to see how long this takes.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Emotionally intelligent people are bad at spotting lies
http://www.livescience.com/20417-emotionally-intelligent-people-bad-spotting-liars.html?utm_source=Marleybonez-via-twitter

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C-K (2037 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Favourite and least favourite countries to play in a Gunboat game.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the matter. Please include why you like or dislike a country.
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Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Is it a legal diplomacy strategy? (hehe I am asking for a certiorari again)
The question is can you use 'cancel' as a legit diplomatic tool? Is it 'illegal' to force others to cancel instead of a 'draw' (as the game is realpolitik I am not much concerned with ethical sides but that is also open to discussion :P)
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Geofram (130 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Nominate my TEDx Talk?
I have an opportunity to speak at my university's first ever TEDx convention, if the selection committee chooses me. They're accepting nominations and I thought I'd ask here. More details inside.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
EoG: Pixel kings
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Chelsea vs Bayern Munich
Italy and France, why didn't you draw when Germany first put it up??
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Victorious (768 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Winter Gunboat Tournament CD
Hello everybody involved,

I will not talk about the games still going on, but i do have to adress the fact one player is CD'ing. In my opinion it is clearly influencing the outcome of the Tournament, so dont we have to do something about it?
Because the organiser of the Tournament is also playing, i dont know how else to adres this....
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
All the water on Earth
The blue sphere is all the water on this planet in all its forms. The sphere is 860 miles in diameter (via USGS). Thoughts?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m453moASsn1qluhiho1_500.jpg
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LakersFan (899 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Concession Option for Live Games
I know the point is to try to not encourage people to give up...

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S.E. Peterson (100 D)
19 May 12 UTC
WTA-GB-17 EOG orRreason #456Wwhy I Need to Quit Playing Gunboats.
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=89225

This was the clusterfuck of clusterfucks and I've been in a lot of clusterfucks lately.
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Emac (0 DX)
18 May 12 UTC
Why do people use character assassination
I don't know much about psychiatry, but why do people resort to character assassination? Is it because they are so narcissistic they can't except being wrong or have anyone disagree with them. It is just the last resort of an immature intellect?
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KingShem (100 D)
15 May 12 UTC
Scarborough shoal conflict between PH & China
1.China claims scarborough shoal according to china's historical records
2.Philippines claims scarborough shoal according to international law UNCLOS, That any natural resources 200nautical miles from a country has sole exploitation rights. So since no one is up for live, i'd like to hear ur opinions
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Home alone
Drinking and playing a live game. Doesn't get much better than this. No sir.
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Wernazuma (589 D)
18 May 12 UTC
The character of a cheater/multi
Even in the few games I've played, I already came across several cheaters/multis who were banned. Possibly there were some more who went undetected.

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footballer_22 (188 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Live WTA-GB-17 austria/germany cheating
please look at this
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LakersFan (899 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Gunboat 281 EOG
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achillies27 (100 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Desperately need a replacement...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=89201 please?
i need to leave soon...
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Ron Paul and fiat currency systems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ShSGz89mA

Silver and Gold: the truth exposed? <- discuss
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Fletch! (716 D(S))
18 May 12 UTC
Admin?
Can we get an admin to move the game along? Waiting 4 more days for a player who is gone!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=82041#gamePanel
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