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spyman (424 D(G))
19 May 12 UTC
Documentary recommendations?
Can anyone recommend a really good documentary? At the moment I am interested in the history of the European settlement of America. Maybe the Jamestown settlement or the Mayflower... that sort of thing. Anyone know of some decent docs which fit the bill (or any other great docs you think are worthwhile on any subject).
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cspieker (18223 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Challenge game over at Playdip.com
Top 30 GR player wanted
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kremen (106 D)
20 May 12 UTC
EoG: Fast Gunboat WTA
Huh... Turkey CAN win! gameID=89373
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AtomicOrangutan (75 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Join my game!
Hey if anyone is interested in playing a simple Classic game join 300 The Legend 2.0. The betting is cheap and its winner takes all
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President Eden (2750 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Is the Benelux geography the key feature in gunboat games?
I was writing a post on playdiplomacy's forum in a thread asking for country rankings in gunboat, and it struck me that the bottleneck between Switzerland and the English Channel totally changes the dynamic of the game when communication is gone. C/P from the post - read on.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
No more growth?
http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2012/04/economist-meets-physicist/#more-894
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
EoG: Cheap Gunboat-9
Live games are the thing, not these affairs that take weeks...
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
Porn
Time to talk about porn. There are a couple of topics we can choose from.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
20 May 12 UTC
How's Jesus doing, is he back yet?
I'm sure when he gets back he'll be over the moon to see what Israelis are doing to the Palestinians, backed by the Yanks and the Eurotrash
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therhat (104 D)
19 May 12 UTC
I am a Troll
Just want to see how long this takes.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Emotionally intelligent people are bad at spotting lies
http://www.livescience.com/20417-emotionally-intelligent-people-bad-spotting-liars.html?utm_source=Marleybonez-via-twitter

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C-K (2037 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Favourite and least favourite countries to play in a Gunboat game.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the matter. Please include why you like or dislike a country.
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Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Is it a legal diplomacy strategy? (hehe I am asking for a certiorari again)
The question is can you use 'cancel' as a legit diplomatic tool? Is it 'illegal' to force others to cancel instead of a 'draw' (as the game is realpolitik I am not much concerned with ethical sides but that is also open to discussion :P)
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Geofram (130 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Nominate my TEDx Talk?
I have an opportunity to speak at my university's first ever TEDx convention, if the selection committee chooses me. They're accepting nominations and I thought I'd ask here. More details inside.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
EoG: Pixel kings
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Chelsea vs Bayern Munich
Italy and France, why didn't you draw when Germany first put it up??
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Victorious (768 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Winter Gunboat Tournament CD
Hello everybody involved,

I will not talk about the games still going on, but i do have to adress the fact one player is CD'ing. In my opinion it is clearly influencing the outcome of the Tournament, so dont we have to do something about it?
Because the organiser of the Tournament is also playing, i dont know how else to adres this....
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
All the water on Earth
The blue sphere is all the water on this planet in all its forms. The sphere is 860 miles in diameter (via USGS). Thoughts?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m453moASsn1qluhiho1_500.jpg
spyman (424 D(G))
17 May 12 UTC
Looks very small - smaller than I would have thought. Cool image.
Yonni (136 D(S))
17 May 12 UTC
I blame global warming.
spyman (424 D(G))
17 May 12 UTC
It would be interesting to see a similar for all the land above sea level. Which sphere would've bigger and by how much?
spyman (424 D(G))
17 May 12 UTC
typo... would *be bigger
semck83 (229 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
Makes me thirsty.
ODaly (236 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Average depth of oceans: 3790m
Average height of land above sea level: 840m

The water sphere would be about 4.5 times bigger, not including lakes and rivers.
ODaly (236 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Oops, not quite right... considering that approximately 2/3 of Earth's surface is ocean, the water sphere may be even larger in comparison.
ODaly (236 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Wiki says 71% of earth's surface is water, so...
Avg height/depth * approx percentage of earth's surface

Oceans: 3790 * .7 = 2653
Land: 840 * .3 = 252
Mujus (1495 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
I'd like to see pretty much the same thing: a saltwater sphere and a freshwater sphere. :-)
Alderian (2425 D(S))
17 May 12 UTC
Freshwater sphere would just be a spec next to the saltwater sphere wouldn't it?
SunZi (1275 D)
17 May 12 UTC
How about the even tinier black speck which is all the oil left on this planet...
JECE (1253 D)
18 May 12 UTC
spyman: Ha ha, even if it's a saltwater sphere, I'm surprised at how large it is.
Octavious (2802 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Wow... all the water on the Earth would make a ball considerably smaller than the Earth? Stop the presses!

Seriously, though, what thoughts is this meant to provoke? All it shows is that if you put an incomprehensively big thing next to an even larger thing it will look small. Why not shove Jupiter behind it and make it look even smaller? Or measure it's radius in units of london double decker buses and make it look big? All are equally pointless.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 May 12 UTC
It may be pointless to you, but that doesn't mean others do not get something from it.

For myself, it reminded me how thin a layer life is on earth. We think of the oceans being very deep and how even the life that lives at the rifts so far down seem so far off. And yet the reality is that a few miles of water on the surface is hardly anything compared to the bulk of the earth. And similarly the layer of gasses around the earth are similarly thing. It makes me wonder of which there is more, air or water?

I was actually at the Pacific coast this weekend with my wife and looked out over the ocean thinking how massive it was. And then I came home and saw this thread. I enjoy seeing things from different viewpoints, especially when the viewpoints give you very opposite feelings.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 May 12 UTC
...similarly thin, not thing, sorry.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
+1 Alderian.

It's interesting because it's a unique perspective. There is no agenda - it's just meant to be illustrative and educational, it is after all from the USGS.
Octavious (2802 D)
18 May 12 UTC
@ Thucy

I am happy that there is no agenda, or at least none that I can see. I also can agree that it's a unique perspective (I've not seen it before, anyway). But what I can't see is how it is educational or what it illustrates. If anything it gives a misleading impression of how much water exists by placing it in a perspective that none of us have any great experience or feel for. In many ways it reminds me of the graphical representation of statistics you find in the worst of America's political adds. Not strictly speaking a lie, but not really the truth either.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
I think it is very interesting, because it is an accurate physical representation. It answers the question "how much water is on earth" better than any number. I don't think it necessarily leads us to believe there is a lot or a little, it just shows us how much there is. I wasn't very surprised by its size
JECE (1253 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Octavious: Ha ha, I think the worst of U. S. political ads are in fact blatant lies.
krellin (80 DX)
18 May 12 UTC
If I were a giant alien, I'd take a wiz on the ball of water, just to fuck with you all before I flew off in my spaceship to Planet Garganzola...
Octavious (2802 D)
18 May 12 UTC
@ Thucy

"It answers the question "how much water is on earth" better than any number"

Does it, though? Does the answer "a big raindrop about the size of France and Germany/ the Gulf of Mexico/ a small moon" mean anything to you? Because it means absolutely nothing to me.

@ JECE

Ah, the blatent lies aren't so bad. They're easy to spot and can be ignored by voters with little effort.
spyman (424 D(G))
19 May 12 UTC
The image answers the question "how much of the world is made of water?" We could just give a number or a ratio, but we would still need to visualise that number to get a sense of it, which is exactly what the image helps us to do.
Some look at the image and think "wow is that all?", while others think "really? As much as that?" It gives us some perspective. If there were other planets in our solar system which had substatial amounts of water then the image would be even more interesting because we could then compare.
spyman (424 D(G))
19 May 12 UTC
... just to clarify the above. It's not how much water there is in absolute terms which is interesting, but how much water there is in comparison to the rest of the world.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
"Does it, though? Does the answer "a big raindrop about the size of France and Germany/ the Gulf of Mexico/ a small moon" mean anything to you? Because it means absolutely nothing to me."

Really? You must not look at maps much.
Octavious (2802 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Ok then, put it this way. The human experience of spheres, even at human sizes, is pretty limited. We are quite good at cubes and cuboids, and can estimate how many dice, say, will fit in a box with little difficulty. Estimating how many golf balls will fit in a basket ball, on the other hand, is quite tricky.

If we then take that tricky sphere to orders of magnitude over which we have only the vaguest feel for then our ability to get anything meaningful from it wittles away to next to nothing. We see a big ball of water next to a much bigger ball of rock. How many Mississippi Rivers is that worth? How many Lake Victorias, perhaps? How many baths? How many pint glasses even? We can't do it. There is no way for us to convert it into anything with which we are familiar with because giant floating balls are so far removed from our experience.

It is a pretty picture, but that is all it is.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
I don't think so. I know how far 860 miles is, so a sphere of this size does have meaning to me.

If you really think humans can only understand things that they have experienced outside the abstract, then I appeal to my own visualization. The state of Texas where I live is about 860 miles wide, and I have driven the distance in one go. If I imagine myself driving through the center of a sphere of water of that size, that means something to me. It doesn't for you apparently, sorry? I guess?

I don't know how long a million years is and yet we talk about that with great urgency sometimes. I'm afraid I don't understand what point you're trying to make. Visualizations larger than a certain scale aren't useful, or what? Because I know of one that made good sense. It was the "imagine the earth is this basketball" image, with other balls at appropriate sizes and distances representing the members of our solar system. How is something like this not helpful?


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LakersFan (899 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Concession Option for Live Games
I know the point is to try to not encourage people to give up...

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S.E. Peterson (100 D)
19 May 12 UTC
WTA-GB-17 EOG orRreason #456Wwhy I Need to Quit Playing Gunboats.
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=89225

This was the clusterfuck of clusterfucks and I've been in a lot of clusterfucks lately.
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Emac (0 DX)
18 May 12 UTC
Why do people use character assassination
I don't know much about psychiatry, but why do people resort to character assassination? Is it because they are so narcissistic they can't except being wrong or have anyone disagree with them. It is just the last resort of an immature intellect?
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KingShem (100 D)
15 May 12 UTC
Scarborough shoal conflict between PH & China
1.China claims scarborough shoal according to china's historical records
2.Philippines claims scarborough shoal according to international law UNCLOS, That any natural resources 200nautical miles from a country has sole exploitation rights. So since no one is up for live, i'd like to hear ur opinions
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Home alone
Drinking and playing a live game. Doesn't get much better than this. No sir.
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Wernazuma (589 D)
18 May 12 UTC
The character of a cheater/multi
Even in the few games I've played, I already came across several cheaters/multis who were banned. Possibly there were some more who went undetected.

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footballer_22 (188 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Live WTA-GB-17 austria/germany cheating
please look at this
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LakersFan (899 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Gunboat 281 EOG
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achillies27 (100 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Desperately need a replacement...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=89201 please?
i need to leave soon...
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Ron Paul and fiat currency systems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ShSGz89mA

Silver and Gold: the truth exposed? <- discuss
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Fletch! (716 D(S))
18 May 12 UTC
Admin?
Can we get an admin to move the game along? Waiting 4 more days for a player who is gone!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=82041#gamePanel
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