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Zmaj (215 D(B))
04 Jun 12 UTC
EoG: Fast Gunboat WTA-2
gameID=90745

Who would have thought I'd be cooperating with achillies so nicely...
7 replies
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Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Jun 12 UTC
Discovered Slacker Radio...
I'm impressed! I never figured anything with the name Slacker in it would be something I would use.

I also discovered that my WiFi extender reaches the entrie .6 acres of my yard, so no data used while listening to Slacker on my cell phone and mowing the yard!
7 replies
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greysoni (160 D)
04 Jun 12 UTC
Riders on the storm
Great game on your part Zmaj...Waskel you idiot you lost both of us 50 D bailing at the last moment.
2 replies
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
04 Jun 12 UTC
Agent K got me thinking: Gunboat and Multiing
Here it comes. lol.
50 replies
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
04 Jun 12 UTC
You are posting too frequently please slow down......
......would you get this sort of message in a democracy?
6 replies
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Draugnar (0 DX)
02 Jun 12 UTC
Full Disclosure IV - Aborted due to CD Austria.
We should try this again but need a seventh to replace the asshole who never showed.
17 replies
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Chanakya. (703 D)
01 Jun 12 UTC
FINISHED 50 GAMES on WEBDIP !
I am happy that I have finished 50 games in a small time of 2 months!

Thank you all for playing with me! :)
9 replies
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
04 Jun 12 UTC
Generating Noobs
I've got one or two coworkers I'm trying to introduce to the game. I'd like to find a group of guys willing to help show them the ropes in a low-pot, low-maintenance game that I would like to design to play about 3 or 4 years to give them a taste for how the game is played and everyone helps them learn the basics. At the end, all 7 powers would draw the game for a fun experience for all.
10 replies
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
03 Jun 12 UTC
Juggernaut Fear, Reasonable or Oversubstantiated?
Ive been in quite a few games over the course of many years on this site and when I first started, the Juggernaut was deadly but people waited for it to develop. Now, it seems that even the hint of a Juggernaut is enough to kill Russia or Turkey or both.
35 replies
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
03 Jun 12 UTC
URGENT: CD replacements, good positions
Because of cheating and such two good positions have opened up. Strong Turkey and France. gameID=89757

Help out the players in there by breathing some life into their game, we appreciate it.
13 replies
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
03 Jun 12 UTC
EoG wta Gunboat 166
gameID=90610

My views. Italy handed Germany a win. England was not that great EITHER, but, his play had less effect on the outcome, than a very bad Italy
10 replies
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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
03 Jun 12 UTC
Great Movies, Awful Trailers
Name some of your favorite movies with terrible trailers. I will start with Full Metal Jacket.
15 replies
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
03 Jun 12 UTC
EOG: If you CD, I Keeeel you
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=85893

Good game everyone, no CD's luckily. owait threats work?
2 replies
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krellin (80 DX)
26 May 12 UTC
All Asshole Game
Seeking fellow forum trolls and assholes for the anonymous All Asshole Game...Friends and enemies welcome. Will do Anon, WTA if we get the participants.
89 replies
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
03 Jun 12 UTC
This is so awesome
For the third year, this summer I'll be doing this stuff:
http://www.eurovelo.org/routes/
6 replies
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
02 Jun 12 UTC
EPIC CAGE MATCH! - GET TIX HERE $10!
ATHEISTS VS CHRISTIANS VS EXTREME LIBERTARIANS VS COMMUNISTS VS CONGO VS GUNBOATERS VS FULL-PRESSERS VS PPSC VS WTA VS EVERYONE ELSE!

FREE-FOR-ALL DEATH MATCH!
10 replies
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stranger (525 D)
02 Jun 12 UTC
England&Germany vs. Russia&France
I experienced, that in the scenario when England and Germany ally up France and Russia are quite helpless. At least they are weaker, especially if they don´t coordinate very well. Anyone ever seen France and Russia winning against England and Germany?
7 replies
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taos (281 D)
03 Jun 12 UTC
36 open free
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=90478
1 reply
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flc64 (1963 D)
01 Jun 12 UTC
Daily Catch-22 Reading
Maybe something useful.
10 replies
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Stearns (148 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Using WebDiplomacy as a calculator.
Good day everyone. In my experience, one of the most frustrating things about playing Diplomacy in real-life is the period of order-processing. I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to utilise this website (or a similar platform) to essentially be an order-calculator for my real-life games. In my mind i see orders being written down, as standard, and submitted to the GM, who could then plug them into the system for calculation...Meaning the game could progress more rapidly. Any ideas?
36 replies
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cteno4 (100 D)
03 Jun 12 UTC
Private game needs two more - starts in one hour!
gameID=90480
70 D buy-in. PPSC, anonymous players, standard map, and 24-hour phases. It should be an interesting game. I've given the password to a lot of good players.
4 replies
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collegekid190 (100 D)
02 Jun 12 UTC
Diplomacy 2!
So I have been writing a variant of diplomacy where you have resources to bargain with, and use to score the game to see who wins in a timed game. Anybody ever hear about this kind of game?
13 replies
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collegekid190 (100 D)
02 Jun 12 UTC
Join my game!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=90521
0 replies
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Andrew Wiggin (157 D)
02 Jun 12 UTC
A Failed Support?
Just a quick question as to the results of a turn made in a game I am playing.

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Yonni (136 D(S))
02 Jun 12 UTC
Unique names? (Bug report, I guess)
I thought unique names are enforced when registering. userID=45009 and userID=44951 appear to have the same name. Perhaps the mods should give one of them the opportunity to change their names to avoid confusion ; )
6 replies
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
10 May 12 UTC
Power of Diplomacy EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=80847
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
10 May 12 UTC
My EoG after spring 1909 orders was pretty clear: "Fuck You Germany!"

Suppose I can expand on that after seeing it through to the draw, but I was pretty focused on insuring the German's fate in the game matched my own, whether it ended in an Italian solo or not...
Thanks MM ;-), just posting to bump. Will write later.
Zachattack413 (1231 D)
10 May 12 UTC
Well, I guess I will give a brief run-through of my thoughts. Fun game, wish I could have pulled out the solo, but I tried to get too cute towards the end. Oh well, still a great experience playing with some of the best players on the site, and I felt like I handled myself pretty well throughout. Regardless, here goes!

Spring 1901: I form a very hesitant, shaky alliance with President Eden of Austria, who has a history of completely raping me whenever we play together. I decided to move against France at his request, though, hoping to make some early Italian progress and bolster my forces against the eventual stab.

Autumn 1901: I guess correctly in regards to Marseilles, and avoid a fleet build that could threaten the Mediterranean

1902: Pretty hunky-dory. I get Marseilles, which is wonderful, and Germany and I start a very stable central alliance that, for the most part, will last throughout the game. (Sorry I got greedy towards the end, but I felt like I had to act quickly in order to ensure I could break the stalemate lines.)

1903: Disaster strikes the Italian nation, as Austria moves against us. I feel like I am doomed to be destroyed at this point, but France allows me to keep Marseilles, which is the only thing that keeps me afloat.

1904-1905: My strong alliance with Germany continues to grow, as we begin to make a push into Austria. Once again, President Eden had tried to rape me, and I decided it wasn't worth taking the chance of him repeating this action.

1906: I start to work with Russia, although it is a shaky partnership at best. I take Budapest, hoping to cement myself in the game, and knowing that I am probably the weakes player on the board. I am fairly confident that I will at least be included in a draw.

1907: I feel like I pull out one of my better pieces of diplomacy that gets me Serbia, while still being able to threaten Turkey, who I know I will not be able to take unless I have Russian aid. Its a tad bit messy, and maybe people will disagree, but I feel like I definitely come out on top in the Balkans because of this year.

1908: I make huge progress in the west, and I'm not sure how, but I'm legitimately thinking that I have a chance for a solo. Its around this time that Germany starts to talk about 'finishing a strong second' and I hope that he does turn on Russia, as I firmly believe that Russia will throw supply centers at me.

1909 and onward: Germany does go after Russia, and MM starts throwing supply centers at me. I am ecstatic, and I know I have a solo in the bag. I can't believe my good fortune, and I am already putting my name in the top 200 GR, possibly the top 150, maybe even the top 100. Then MM cuts off my balls and reminds me of my proper place lol. Regardless, it was a great game and I really enjoyed it. Well played everyone, and thanks for the experience.

Zachattack413 (1231 D)
10 May 12 UTC
Haha that wasn't very brief. My apologies everyone!
I warned you about those Italians, bro

Tooooold you man
Sandgoose (0 DX)
10 May 12 UTC
i loved the ball chop thing there zachy haha
My perspective on this game, and I agree with Zach that it was in fact quite fun:

I start the game with an open mind. England seems friendly and willing to do what I ask, so I set him up to attack France. It works and Italy joins and we have France on the ropes. Unfortunately, Austria goes and ruins everything with a big stab on Italy. At this stage, I had stabbed England for what I had hoped to be a good gain and a good alliance with Russia. The alliance withj Russia, at least, was achieved.

I went after Austria to help my ally, Italy. I also tried to keep a good diplomacy with France. However, it was not good enough and I lost Munich. I have to revers emyself and deal with this. Russia is helpful, but even more important is Italy allowing me to keep Vienna for almost ever. I could not have pushed France back, even with Russian help, without Italy.

I became very frustrated with France. He maintained an very aggressive stalemate position against that effectively hamstrung me for the better part of the game. I tried all sorts of things to get him to back away but he was committed to enforcing this stalemate. He eventually lost Marseilles and SPain in one turn trying to hold it.

I will say now that I am dispaointed that France was in the draw. I was impressed with him in many ways, but felt that his game here was not deserving of reward (no offense Zarathustra, I still like you).

Italy had made his move and the board was wide open. At this stage I honestly figured I still had a solo shot or a shot at a 17-17 draw, I trust my tactics and I know the stalemates very well. I got the impression from Italy that he was not as fmailiar with the horizontal lines. So I wanted to make a go at it.

I talked to England and we set something up. I was confident I could maintain the position of power between he and I and ultimately keep an option to stab him for the 17-17. Obviously it did not work out. More on this later.

After stabbing Russia I got about the longest message I have every received. I will not go into details but I will say that it was tremendously impactful. I am not sure it achieved the purpose he intended it to, though.

I was extremely impressed with the way that MadMarx was able to help Italy. There was one turn where all of my guess were countered exactly perfectly. I don;t know who to credit/blame that on, but I assume MM had a hand in it. He often pretends he doesn't understand tactics. I believe it is all pretend, as when working to the stalemate he certainly knew his shit. And also how he helped ITaly.

Anyway, he played it exactly right and forced the draw. We actually were very close to losingit had ITaly made some different guesses. But I am happy we lasted, I wish I had earned a better result but also am happy that I had such a fantastic opposition. All in all a great PPSC game.

Also, Indy kept chirping global chat about how we were all hypocrites (WTA players seemingly going for strong seconds/throwing solos). I hope he saw how it ended so he can now eat his words :-). Kidding, Indy.
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
11 May 12 UTC
Wish I had more time to write an EoG, I have a ton to say actually, maybe I can carve some time out this weekend, tomorrow afternoon I'm driving over to the mother-in-law's for her weekend...
Hoping you do eventually find the time.
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
12 May 12 UTC
I will, though I don't think I'll have the restraint that you found, I was prepared for you to really rip me a new one... Anyway, I kept my emotions in check for a long time, but sometimes it's fun to just let them fly all over the place, something I rarely do in real life, which makes it even more fun, at times, in the heat of the moment...
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
12 May 12 UTC
In the heat of the moment, in a game of diplomacy, that is...
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
17 May 12 UTC
Sorry for the delay, life's kicking my butt right now, but, this weekend, for sure...
I don't remember any details and really do not want to go look back at all the press to get them. So, a very general EoG statement.

As Austria, I don't believe a straight alliance with Russia or Turkey is the way to success. You can work with either of them, even both, but you need something or someone to check whichever one you choose as an ally. One of my goals is to ensure I'm holding either 3/4 Balkan territories or 2/4 with a rival's HSC by the end of 1902. The Russian alliance has a fair amount of parity - Russia has the speed advantage in going for 18, but on your front, at least, you can hold him off. Turkey has no such guarantee.

I also believe firmly that if you're strong enough to survive as Austria diplomatically, you're strong enough to do it without Italy, and that you really don't want Italy hanging around in the east. As long as he does, you're threatened with a 2-front partition. So get him going west and stab him before he stabs you.

So when Turkey basically came to me with "I'm going to blitz Russia 100% right off the bat, but if you do anything to mess with me ever then I will absolutely work to kill you no matter if it's in my best interest or not, and you know my history so you know this is legit" I was thinking "Well... better get him overextended and make sure that when I do side with Russia, it's decisive." Zach and I had some back history in the Winter 2011 Leagues - ended up at war in the decisive first 3 games of the 4-game series, and I was the backstabber in all three, so I took some extra steps to assure him that I really did want to work with him this time. It was tough getting him on board to attack France, and I highly doubt it was me that did the convincing work (I'm sure that was Lando), but he did do it, so that worked.

Operation Overextension worked fairly well. I got him into Rumania in A01 without him getting Bulgaria, while picking up 2 builds myself. Since I was nominally pro-Italian and pro-Turkish, building a fleet would be stupid, so I went 2 armies, and then Russia and I smacked the overextended Turk badly. One pesky misorder from Marx was the only reason why Turkey wasn't sitting at 2 centers by the end of the year. I doubt this was intentional, as Marx had no reason to want Turkey to live given his play style, but it did hamper my strategy a bit, because I was absolutely looking at planting Italy into the ground in 1903. Germany had gotten annoyingly pushy throughout and there was a border dispute in 1901, so I was mildly concerned that he would react poorly, but it would have been a good move for me if it worked and frankly, with Germany's attitude toward me the whole game, I really didn't give a fuck if attacking Italy rustled his jimmies.

So I attacked Italy in 1903. I'm still not sure that this was a mistake. I know I made a couple of misreads that messed everything up - for instance, underestimating the sheer fury that would consume Germany and lead him to launch a full-scale attack on my borders while antagonizing England and France simultaneously, underestimating Russia's concern about our alliance, and underestimating France's resolve to punish Italy and Italy's resolve to defend against me. I don't really think misreading Germany was an egregious mistake because I still think that move was rather ridiculous, but I should have done more to foster relations with France and Russia to keep them onside, and didn't.

Shit went south in a hurry there. I was stunned to see Italy come back as strongly as he did, and rather elated at that - of my four neighbors, he was the one who hadn't wronged me in any way, and he's always been a pleasure personally, and by his own admission at one point he said he didn't expect to be in the winner's circle, so I was really really hoping to see that solo happen. It didn't, but his spot in the draw was very impressive.

Individual notes:

England/Tasnica - Always a pleasure! I know this didn't go like we'd hoped, but you played fairly well and clearly earned your place. Hope to cross swords again soon.

France/Zarathustra - Our first match together, and unfortunately there wasn't much going on between us. I wish I'd built up our relationship a bit better, because the one chance we did have to coordinate, you pretty much left me holding the bag of shit against Italy, which wasn't very nice or fun for me :/ Hope to get you again soon.

Germany/Lando - I'm really not sure what happened there, but holy shit we got off on the wrong foot and never got adjusted. I'm not sure what I did to help that, and would welcome being told what it was, because I know what I think you did wrong (way too pushy and bossy and unduly meddling) and I also know that can't be the whole story. Your based finish adequately represented your skill; Lil B's been rubbing off the right way, I can see. #swag

Italy/Zach - DAMN good job, brother! Kicked my ass good and right and then nearly soloed off a very strong group. Not much more to be said, you're always a delight and played a hell of a game.

Russia/Marx - ;iofehauksdgisdjkfgasdkghasgdhfgysadu WHY COULDN'T WE BE FRIENDS. ;_; That was so set up and it's clear I messed up somewhere along the line, because I know you were all-in with me and I know I was all-in with you, but then a thing happened and you were helping Lando and Zach beat me up and it was sad. I thought I was pretty clear about what I was doing, but you cited my being too secretive a few times in explaining your decision, and the explanation you gave in private answered any questions I had. Just a sad circumstance, I think, because there's honestly no reason why two players in the position we were in, both telling the other "No, really, I want to work with you all the way through" should have been so off. Maybe next time, man. Good game!

Turkey/Indy - Holding me hostage in S01 was really not nice, and the deciding factor in my swinging toward Marx instead. Love playing with you and I look forward to the next bout, but I really hope I'm not a neighbor, because that's just not a good place to be.
Eden - I think it was the whole story. Not sure if your 'pushy, meddling, etc." line was directed at me, but this is how I saw you in this game. I think we likely either play in too similar a fashion or far too different a fashion, not sure which. For whatever reason I don't think we have ever found much ability to get along. Maybe next time?
We're both pretty pushy and meddling, lol. That was an assessment of your play, but it applied to mine as well, I don't mean to act like I wasn't. We'll get this down one day, hopefully next time!
@MM re: "I will, though I don't think I'll have the restraint that you found, I was prepared for you to really rip me a new one..."

Were you really as pissed at me as that message read? I thought you were exaggerating to get an emotional reaction out of me. I figured it would be interesting to talk after the game, so I am curious what your story is at this point when nothing is on the line anymore. For my point - I sincerely thought I could play for a two way draw, but you incredibly successful in thwarting that.
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
18 May 12 UTC
Lando, I tend to exaggerate, but I was honestly about as pissed at you as I have ever been with anyone on this site, and I've been extremely upset more than once. It's all in good fun, and I've come to enjoy expressing my opinions and feelings within a game on this site, a luxury I seldom afford myself in real life. So, I was not trying to get a specific reaction out of you, at least not on purpose, but my immediate knee-jerk reaction was to throw a solo to Italy, so perhaps the reason I went off on you to such an extent was to insure I followed through with my intentions since I tend to soften up with a bit of time/hindsight. The only thing that mattered to me in that moment was that you be punished, regardless of my own fate, and my biggest fear was that your result would be better than mine in this game, so I quickly focused all of my energy in the Italian solo in the hopes of having your fate match my own.
I would have felt the same way that you did for sure. I would have had the same instinct, to try and "punish" you for the decisions, so I completely understand where you come from. If I were in your shoes I am not certain if I would have been as successful as you were with the fate-matching thing. At the end of the day, I still don't understand why you thought I might "rip you a new one"
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
18 May 12 UTC
Lando, in my world, I don't do what you did to me without some sort of significant personal issue with that person. My guess is that in your world (of playing diplomacy), you so whatever you want to do with little to no consideration of/for anyone else. I've heard you comment on the forum how you have been frustrated by people that do not put selfish motives first and foremost in a game, which makes sense since your best guess at what others will do is guessing what you will do. I am the same way, so, since I would not have done what you did to me without some sort of significantly negative feeling towards me, I expected you to express some of those sorts of things. This is compounded by the fact that I still have a number of bad things to say about you and your selfish "gunboat" (oh no he di'n't!!) / "entitled" way of playing this specific game, which leaves me assuming you have a number of bad things to say about me and my style of play that differs significantly from your own.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
18 May 12 UTC
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Zachattack413 (1231 D)
18 May 12 UTC
By the way, @ Lando, if I would have slowed down a bit in my push for a solo, is there any way that you would have been happy with a strong second? Or was that just a clever technique used to get my guard down?
Zachattack413 (1231 D)
18 May 12 UTC
@PE, Thank you for the very gracious compliments lol. I do have to say, even though you have a history of absolutely destroying me, I do always enjoy playing with you. Thanks for being a part of this game! I still can't believe I survived your stab attempt haha.
Couple things:
MM - I remember something you said that you are exlcuding right now. You said you would only stab a game-long ally if you were certain to get a solo. As such, I don't know why you can take such an issue with what i did. I made a decision and took an action that I was pretty confident would improve my showing in this game. I don't tend to solo a lot. And I am sure I have only soloed longer-phase press games a couple of times ever, so to me, a 2way draw was a very reasonable thing to stab over.

I still great issue with the tag of being "entitled" and to a lesser degree beign selfish. I assure you, me ebign a "gunboater" is a non-factor. Gunboat still allows for different personalities, styles, etc. and many of these different types can find success. In this way it is the same as press.

I understand where you were coming from, and why you were pissed. I would have been in your shoes as well. I tend to be a very loyal player when I play this game. I tend to think like you when stabbed, punish that guy at all cost for stabbing, regardless of if it costs me the game. Ultimately, you take issue with one decision I made and I believe it is unfair to project what you see from that decision onto my entire diplomacy persona.

@Zach - yes and no. I would have been satisfied with 15 or 16 centres, but not the 10 I could have got under the situation. I really wanted a 2way draw, thought it was feasible, but couldn't execute (thanks MM). I was busy towards the end of the game and liekly didn't articulate to you enough of what I was thinkign/wanted

interesting EOG. i hope it continues. I will be away for some days, looking forward toreading more ;-).
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
21 May 12 UTC
I wanted to get through an in-depth EoG, but I'm losing interest, and quickly. Here's the quick version:

Turkey pretty much told me he was blitzing me because of my name/points/GR, metagaming at its finest, so Turkey was easily my most hated player, especially early on, but others would give him a run for his money later on. I was friendly with Germany/England/Italy in 1901, they all seemed like potential allies, and France seemed nice enough, though quite a ways away from me, so nothing could happen with him until later on. The Austrian seemed like a good potential ally, but he supported Turkey into Rumania in 1901, so he was on my shit list. Austria and I seemed to get on track, against Turkey, and the north seemed to make more sense for me to ally with Germany rather than England, even though I enjoyed them both very much early on. Italy talked a big game, about wanting to work with me, but he went after France, so clearly he was leaving me on my own in the southeast. At the point that Austria stabbed Italy, Germany apparently was super pissed, which should have been a clue to me that Germany was more loyal to Italy than to me, and perhaps he was hoping for a CPA. I kept hearing rumors that Austria was raging at several people, and Austria "misordered" a couple times that really cost me, and after he admitted to lying to me in autumn 1901, I had no choice but to assume he was lying to me repeatedly, which sort of jived with the vibe I was getting from him, though maybe I put too much stock into the Austrian talking on the forum about building his GR through live games, and to me live games encourage people to lie more than in non-live, so everything was pointing to Austria lying to me, repeatedly. Anyway, Germany was wantng to piss Austria off a bit, which caused Austria to want to attack Germany, so it seemed I had to choose between Austria and Germany, and given the fact that Germany hadn't lied to me (yet) and Austria was appearing pretty sketchy, it seemed to be time to turn on Austria, especially with Italy shifting back to attack Austria. So, I was working with Italy, to finish off Austria, and then Italy revealed his true colors, a major asshole that only thought of himself that was more than willing to screw me over even though I was supporting him into center after center, but the big problem was that the Turk was still most hated by me for his metagaming, so I put up with Italy in the name of killing the Turk, in the hopes that a GIR would rule the map before all was said and done. Then Germany stabbed me and I totally lost it. I thought Italy was an "entitled" asshole, but Italy and I had not been working closely the entire game, so Germany easily out-did Italy in the self-centered, scum of the earth sort of department, which was especially hard to swallow since the German was repeatedly doing stupid things like dislodging an English unit and allowing it to retreat into his own supply center, so I felt I had propped up Germany year on end, watched him squander opportunity after opportunity, and this was the thanks I got. I honestly was and am disgusted by the German, so even though it was time to help Italy solo, a person I despised in game, it was mainly because I viewed Turkey and Germany to be even worse than Italy, and by a bit of a margin. OH, when Germany shifted on me in the spring of whatever year, the fall could have gone much differently, I chatted with England a bit, because England and I could have crushed the Brown Scum, but England was more than happy to kiss the lying bastard German's ass rather than ally with a loyal sort of guy like myself, which kind of pissed me off, but England was still easily my favorite player that was currently alive and a neighbor, so I did enjoy chatting with him for the rest of the game even though he never really did too much for me from there on out.

So, all that said, this game was very enlightening. I am a loyal sort of person in real life and a loyal sort of person in a game. I tend to want to kill off liars and ally with people that are loyal, but it seems to me that the webDip population is becoming more "entitled", more "self-centered", more willing to stoop to incredibly low levels, and while it is disturbing to me, it tells me I must adjust my game to be more prepared for the bastards, so for that I am thankful. Though, that said, perhaps this was just one of those games, an anomaly, and I shouldn't get too worked up about it...

PS - Honestly, the Turk's metagaming really did skew this game significantly for me, upset me, and likely made other happenings feel worse than they really were. I had never played the Turk before, and in general I think non-anon games are not the sort for me, it only takes one person to "ruin" the game for me, so that's another thing I can take from this game that will lead to more positive experiences in the future.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
21 May 12 UTC
I really don't understand that "meta" argument, and I've heard it from other high-GR players too. I mean, once your bet is in, who cares how well you do, as long as it isn't at my expense?

A 3 way draw with MM and Babak is worth the same to me as a 3 way with others when MM and Babak are eliminated. Are players not able to see that? I ally personality, not GR.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 May 12 UTC
^I would be interested in finding out more about that. I personally thought that drawing with lower GRed players to beat higher GR players got more Ghost points, but no?
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
21 May 12 UTC
No. If you are part of a draw, you get 1/n of the total GR pot, where n is the total number of people in the draw, so who you draw with does not matter, what matters is that you are in the draw and the fewer people in the draw the more GR you will earn.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 May 12 UTC
Thanks for clearing that up MM!
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
21 May 12 UTC
No problem, that's why I like to encourage people to play a game with me (since I contribute more than most to the GR pot for any one game) and then ally with me long-term for a draw, especially since I so seldom solo these days! ;-)
redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 May 12 UTC
Yeah, the people are onto you Marx. Even as a one center Italy they'll probably think of you as a serious solo threat. Time to create your Multi and start over. ;-)

So where's Tas' EoG here?
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
21 May 12 UTC
I have a multi, but he's got a 100% winning record, so that may not be much better: The MAtRiX
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
23 May 12 UTC
Nobody in the game has a response for my more lengthy EoG?! I thought I said some things that might result in a bit more discussion, but perhaps it's all water under the bridge...
Tasnica (3366 D)
24 May 12 UTC
These last few weeks have been nuts, and I hardly ever look at the forums.

I'll try to read through the thread and write my own EOG this weekend.
Not a whole lot of response to your EOG from my end, Marx - my early lie in Rumania and spotty communication very naturally sealed my own fate in our relationship, so there's nothing too much to add. I wasn't lying at any point beyond A01, for full disclosure, and it's a shame things went the way they did because I know a functional AR with us would have probably been much less frustrating for you than what actually happened, but I dun goofed and messed that up for us, so there's not much to be said there.

@Zach - Hey, those compliments? You earned 'em. Also saw you stomping ass in one of the gunboat tournies around. Keep it up, man, looking forward to the next one.
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
27 May 12 UTC
Tasnica?
Tasnica (3366 D)
27 May 12 UTC
I'm totally working on my EoG. But it is long and time is short.
Marx I think you and I discussed all we needed to in this thread, do you not agree?
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
27 May 12 UTC
No, I agree. We see things differently and/or you wanted to try a different approach during the game, it's all good.
MadMarx (36299 D(G))
02 Jun 12 UTC
TAS!!!!!!


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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
23 May 12 UTC
Jim Fracking O'Kelley EoG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=81663

The final F2F / webDip experiment, of the three I got going, and a non-anon one at that...
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
01 Jun 12 UTC
EoG: Marabunta
I should have won, really...
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martinck1 (4464 D(S))
18 May 12 UTC
Top 50 GR game
Time for a Game - Anyone interested in a Top 50 GR ranked game? Semi-Anon, Full Press, WTA, 48 hour phases, say 200 D. First 7 people who qualify will play, you won't be bumped. can you add your name and GR ranking below.

1. martinck1 (7)
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ScottS (100 D)
02 Jun 12 UTC
how does one report bots?
I don't see anything on the help page or FAQ.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=90475
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