If I recall, the argument *against* autodefeat was that someone would not realize they had been defeated and might complain thinking they had one more chance to do something. But I agree that a true zero SC nation should see all their remaining units disband with an autoorder and autoready so they can't disrupt the flow of the game.

this was suggested about 3 years ago. It is usually disputed by both sides (I agree with the auto-ready).

The auto defeat would essentially read, logically, like this:

IF it is the build phase AND player has zero SCs
THEN set all moves to disband for all units AND ready move for completion

I agree with Orathaic's assessment. Knowing that no one will be able to retreat and take away any of your supply centers if you get to 18 means that there are moves that one can make that would otherwise be foolish because they leave your supply centers open for someone to retreat to! This basically provides for a free set of moves for whoever is going to get the 18, leaving them free to not worry about defending their rear.

Yea, I was on here back then and it appears to me at least that the system is much improved since then. As I recall, back then there actually were the occasional bug where your move didn't submit properly or an option that should have been available was not. I have not seen any discussion of this type of thing happening since I have come back to the site in August. It seems to me we have progressed to the point were we can make these types of determinations

The programming would also need to set a flag that would prevent the user from unreadying.

Oh, I made a mistake in the logic of my prior statement.

IF it is the build phase AND player X has zero SCs
THEN set all moves to disband for all units of player X AND set move for player X to "ready"

Like I said, that covers the backend, but you have to disable the button in the GUI or they could unready the orders. So it needs an enhancement flag that tells the code to not allow it to unready like a normal readied set of orders could have done.

Well, I am not as concerned with a person deliberately delaying the game. I don't think most people would do that. Plus, if the system is buggy, it allows the player a means of fixing it. If the consequence of that is that some jerks unready the autodefeat, then I am cool with that.

Zara: the logic is simple, no need to share. It is the audience to agree that is the problem. We don't want to "force" users. If added, I would doubt kestas would not allow a player to not unready the order.