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TURIEL (205 D)
09 Nov 11 UTC
Live Game-Players needed
Begins in 25 mins.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=71911
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Draugnar (0 DX)
09 Nov 11 UTC
ACRON's at it again (still?)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/03/acorn-officials-scramble-firing-workers-and-shredding-documents-after-exposed/?intcmp=obnetwork
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
09 Nov 11 UTC
Writing a book
Has anyone here written a book? Once I finish another project I am working on, I am mulling over writing a biography of a secondary figure from the early American Republic. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with publishing a manuscript before.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Spending, deficits, and debt
Federal spending has grown from 20.7 percent of gross domestic product in 2008 to 25.3 percent last year, its largest share since the end of World War II
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binkman (416 D)
09 Nov 11 UTC
Something fishy
Seems like something fishy is happening in this game: gameID=70935
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semck83 (229 D(B))
09 Nov 11 UTC
NBA lockout
What do people think?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Even Ali Has To Be Feeling Sad Right Now...
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box_experts/post/-8216-Smokin-8217-Joe-Frazier-loses-his-battl?urn=box-wp849

The death of one of the greatest boxers who ever lived, and a huge part of the sports and cultural scene of the 1970s...may the epic Ali/Fraizer fights live on forever, and Joe be forever Smokin' Hot. RIP
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Humans can already beat a killer astroid?
Who knew? I feel much better about civilization averting asteroid apocalypse, but then again Global warming is going to do us in anyway. Too bad...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45192148/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.TrmBJLIb5Zc
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jdog97 (100 D)
09 Nov 11 UTC
new game
Join World war 3
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
07 Nov 11 UTC
Erasing the signs of aging?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111103120605.htm

Thoughts?
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gman314 (100 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Not CDing
See inside.
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faded (100 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Rules/order clarification
Ok, so can someone help me work out what the outcome of the following orders would be?

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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
06 Nov 11 UTC
The game. www.losethegame.com
You all loose.
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Zarathustra (3672 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Rule question! Retreat edition!
Just looking for a quick reminder (I'm still working the rust out of my long absence). If Austria's Vienna Army supports its Army in Bohemia to Tyrolia and Italy moves its Tyrolia army to Bohemia, can an Austrian Army dislodged from Silesia retreat to Bohemia?
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Cockney (0 DX)
02 Nov 11 UTC
NFL Pick Em: Week 9
I thought I would help out, add scores and do my turn this week (a bit early)

If i have missed anyone out - apologies-oh and i wont say there are lots of "blow outs" as everytime someone says that on here, something weird happens like the Rams beating the Saints!
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Cockney (0 DX)
07 Nov 11 UTC
tedious....
gameID=71677

surely a draw?
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Sicarius (673 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Are you an anarchist?
The answer may surprise you.
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totya (100 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Magyarok ide!
Nem tudom van e már ilyen topic, de jó lenne, ha egy jó kis csapat összejönne. :)
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
07 Nov 11 UTC
A couple of questions about American courts.
In the UK, when a jury has a verdict the judge asks them what the verdict is and they say it out loud. In the 'States, once a jury reaches a verdict, they write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to the judge, He or she reads it and then hands it back and someone in the jury reads it out.

Why do they hand it to the judge first? What does this achieve?
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Ges (292 D)
04 Nov 11 UTC
WebDip Book Club?
Since there are so many well-read, historically-minded, opinionated members on the site, I thought it might be fun to read and discuss a book with anyone who is interested.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Nov 11 UTC
What are some good songs to sing unaccompanied (that aren't that hard)
When the sun goes down in the village there is nothing to do, so sometimes my family asks me to sing for them.. know any good songs?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
04 Nov 11 UTC
Movember
Does this exist in other parts of the world?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Nov 11 UTC
the embodied mind
also interesting stuff... Mind is more than just brain, a bigger step away from dualistic thought.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/04/a-brief-guide-to-embodied-cognition-why-you-are-not-your-brain/
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
07 Nov 11 UTC
The Masters Rounds 7 and 8
So I've spent pretty much the whole weekend working on the spreadsheets and finding out how TrustMe did it, but now I've got everything I need to become (temporary) TD and with Geofram's help get this thing back up and running.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Nov 11 UTC
The Biggest Threat To Liberty is _____ (?)
I say a Lack of Education:
It was with more education we got out of the Stone Ages and into the Greco-Roman era...and then when education made a comeback, we had the Renaissance...and then the Englightenment...and then Civil Rights/Suffrage movements...cured diseases, more production...but currently my home state is 48th in education and the West is most of my doctors ARE from India...what's your take? Biggest threat is...what?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
New Ghost Ratings up
tournaments.webdiplomacy.net
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Question: Are battles really, when it comes down to it, historically important?
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
I pose this question because I couldn't come up with a list of 10 important battles in world history.

I would argue that most major battles are decided well before the armies take their positions on the battlefield, and are decided not by who fought harder or had the winning gimmick that day but by who had the better technology, larger army, superior tactical doctrine, more efficient logistical system, better motivated soldiers, detailed knowledge of the enemy's OOB, etc. All of these factors are decided well before the battle begins. Even outside of events that occur on the battlefield, which country can out-produce, diplomatically outmaneuver, and simply keep their subjects motivated to fight longer than the other has an enormous effect on the course of history - far more than the outcome of any single battle. Does this mean that battles in and of themselves are historically irrelevant? I lean towards "yes" in most cases, but would be interested in hearing other opinions.
Kingdroid (219 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
Alot of times the battles themselves prove who had the best technology, and most motivated soldiers, etc. You can't say one doctrine or one technology is necessarily better until it has been proven in battle. Also, there are plenty of times where there are upsets, and the side with the lesser technology wins.
I would say there are lots of instances where you are correct. Tolstoy, but there are plenty of instances where numerically inferior or technically inferior forces overcome the "favored" force. The battle of Austerlitz comes to mind, where a numerically superior Austro-Russian force was defeated by Napoleon and as a result single handedly knocked Austria out of the war.

But I will admit that a large amount of battles have been decided before they started, still many other parts are not decided. Like how would history had been different if King Harold wasn't killed during the battle of Hastings?
They arn't irrelevant, but war isnt the end all and be all of human history. We gravitate toward war to explain changes in human history because we like dramatic, simple explanations, but war is only one type of change, and subservient to more substantial engines of change such as demographics, economics, politics, etc.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
07 Nov 11 UTC
Tolstoy, Trenton & Princeton.
Without those two victories the Continental army surely collapses.
The British (Hessians) had the majority of the advantages you listed.

Midway is another.
Putin33 (111 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
Good point. The army that can produce more almost always win when it comes to a war of any significant length. I don't even think tactics, efficiency, or better motivated soldiers matter a whole lot. Surely Hannibal was better than most any general of the ancient era, but he still lost the war. The Tiger tanks were 'better' than any other tank in WWII on a one-to-one basis, but the T-34 won out because it could be more easily mass produced (that and it could move on bad terrain much better and cost less fuel).
Thucydides (864 D(B))
07 Nov 11 UTC
Maybe you're right generally, but I think sometimes it comes down much more to luck and other circumstances. Sometimes it's really a lot more up in the air, and sometimes the effects of the outcome of the battle can be far-reaching.

So not every battle is important, but the ones that make the list of the MOST important are. They are ones where there was an upset, or the effects of the outcome were far reaching.
redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
"I would argue that most major battles are decided well before the armies take their positions on the battlefield"

Sun Tzu would agree: "Every battle is won before it is ever fought"
Baskineli (100 D(B))
07 Nov 11 UTC
Every battle is won before it is ever fought, indeed. However, battles are a strange mixture of preparation and often luck.

You can read about "Zvika Force" here: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?3801-A-story-of-heroism

I think this is an interesting story.
Baskineli (100 D(B))
07 Nov 11 UTC
Another link to this story: http://www.amazingben.com/arf0123.html

Thucydides (864 D(B))
07 Nov 11 UTC
people, pretty consistently actually, ignore or downplay the role of chance and luck in outcomes, especially important ones.
ulytau (541 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
Citing Sun Tzu might sound smart but as the ever popular example of Hastings shows, not every battle is won before it is fought even though the winners might see it that way.
largeham (149 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
"Like how would history had been different if King Harold wasn't killed during the battle of Hastings? "
History might be quite different, to an extent. The whole England-France rivalry might not have happened or been as intense. William was a king and also a vassal of France, thereby causing a conflict. Harold was not. However, both countries could have come to blows anyway, as they are on both sides of the channel.

I generally agree with this sentiment, but I also have to agree with Thucy. In a battle, luck plays a significant role. Something could happen that could change the dynamic of the war, say an important general or king could be killed.
binkman (416 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
Tolstoy, it's interesting how similar your position is to that of... wel... Tolstoy. I take it you've read War and Peace?
Every battle is not won before it is fought that simply isn't true


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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Nov 11 UTC
A Question on the Masters
See below
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Favio (385 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
Probably not new game play idea, maybe for tourneys
Is there a tourney here that we could do a Triple vs Triple deal with a rogue Italy? I think if we have enough players that would be a fun thing to do. I think best would be 7 players or 49. Could be fun. Let me know if anyone is interested or has a way to make it a better idea.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
05 Nov 11 UTC
How to be an American College Student
My own work.
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