That does actually look legit to me. That is a strong but viable alliance. Still, fair enough to bring it up.
Perhaps we should get a single thread in which you can *only* post names & a game link you wish to have investigated, then people like you and I can leave it alone for those in power to investigate. After all, neither of us can see the data held!

It looks fine until Austria starts supporting italy into Austrian territories.

Perfect team alliance. I love it!!!! Sundwn is just afraid of loosing! Sore loosers like Sundwn deserve to be banned. its people like him that take away the legitimacy of calling out true multi accounters. Is there any way we can ban sundwn! It doesn't take an expert to know that an alliance is simply an alliance. These two players are smart and I admire them for that.

I would like to play a game with this guys. This game cool!

Centurian - we don't know if that was arranged or not. There are many reasons he might give them away. Without looking at the map, if he's supporting him in I guess someone else is in there, and so maybe Italy refused to give support but would move if Austria supported? Maybe it was a swap to keep numbers balanced when compared with actions somewhere else on the board. There are more reasons, but those are more tactical and i don't want to suggest other strategies at play

Well I should point out that Fuehr hear has just joined php and has now entered a single 100 point game with emperortabia (italy in said game) this isn't the first multiaccounting accusation I've heard about him as well.

If it is a legit move then thats fine, but the mods should look into it.

BTW figlesquide, if you did look at the map you would see that Austria gives up trieste, serbia and moscow in exchange for nothing and noone contests said territories.

Fuehr was just created, and is playing in one 100 point, password protected game with "emporer Tapai", the same player who is controlling Italy in sundwn's game.

This might need to be checked more thouroughly.

The new 100 point passworded game has a new player. A new account with no other games.

Doesn't sound suspicious at all guys. What unorthodox alliance will Tabia use to win that one?

Shouldn't need an alliance. All he needs to do is trick himself into giving him all his territories

Sundwn, in all fairness I do think the Mods should look into your accusation. The Fuehr thing is ridiculous.

Looked like a legit, well pulled off alliance to me too, until the last turn or too when either Italy pulled of a great stab or something questionable is going on. The next turn should make it clearer which is the case, though with the coincidences around the Fuehr account seem to support the accusation.

It could be looked at, but Italy and Austria working together is rather unusual- although not cause for alarm.

Sundwn has complained before about this game but the stragety is still valid. It seems now the alliance is not very long lasting, with Italy taking Trieste. It's clear Italy is profiting the most from the game situation.

I find alliances between Italy and Austria not very odd. As Italy you have two options: invade Austria or forge an alliance. If you keep a NAP Austria will surely invade you. If you have an alliance you could win centers thereby (see for instance my rather succesful alliance with Austria in the game Wilson-3). However, this sort of cooperation is rather unusual. I find the other game rather suspicious, so is also the reaction of Fuehr in this thread: 'sundwn must be banned'. It sounds more like something Emperor Tapia might say.

BTW, Apollo464 has only played games with Emp Tapia.

blatant multiaccounting

I don't understand why anyone can see this as a legit alliance. All the evidence points to a multi

Yep - looks quite suspicious - too unbalanced in Italy's favor.

Wow!!! its so hard to play strategy without being called a witch! How many times do I have to explain myself and my strategies before I stop getting purged. I am clearly working a deal with Austria that still has not developed completely. I am pretty sure Turkey figured this out which is why I am saying this. While this turn appears to be completely in my favor, it will be obvious that it was for a reason. Austria felt Russia was a threat. Therefore, we worked together to efficiently take advantage of their exposure and the quickest way to do that was to exchange supply centers. At the same time Austria feels Turkey is a threat so since they cant fight a two front war, they asked us their ally to join. However, Italy cant attack from behind Austria. Drr..... So they let us in. Of course at first it might hurt them, but in the long run it will benefit them.

As Ursa and others may recall, the last time I tried playing with friends everyone freaked out! So this time I started a private game with friends who have joined the game; ensuring that no other player feels at a disadvantage.

Ursa, I do not wish Sundwn to be banned. All I wish is that he stopped screaming wolf! If he is loosing, he has my condolences but just because I declared war on his royal butt does not mean that I am collaborating with the whole world to take his jewels. (the one's on his crown of course) lol.

So I hope this calms the waters and explains everything.

Not quite "Emperor". You are almost certainly a multi-accounter, and a massive one at that. As soon as I get the time, or another moderator looks into this, I'm going to destroy your entire network. In the very game in question, try to tell me that you're not also France.

As a formal warning to the players of BloodBounty, Game ID: 6215,
Russia, England, and France are almost certainly the same person.

Act accordingly, and expect them to be banned and CD'ed. It's a fairly new game, so I hope players who read this notice will go forth and take over the CD positions when they become available.

you must obviously not be a moderator! If you were, then you would converse with before making such blunt assumptions. Also, this issue has already been discussed with another moderator and he already decided on my legitimacy. I refuse to go on with this silly accusations.

If you convinced him, then you can convince me. I will fully apologize if I'm wrong, but I'm 99% sure that I'm not, so you'll excuse me if I might offend you and your many accounts in the process.

Tapia - If you are not a multi-accounter, then you must have 4 or 5 siblings/close friends/etc who are logging in to phpDip from the same computer.

I would be willing to cut some of these "other" players some slack as they aren't actually in any games with the other accounts but we most definitely need some further explanation from you if you want to defend your innocence.

Feel free to contact me at the e-mail address listed in my profile if you feel you'd like a proper trial. I wouldn't have anything against banning all your accounts except one if you would like to continue playing with one of them.

"this issue has already been discussed with another moderator and he already decided on my legitimacy." I assume you mean Wonderllama as it's obviously not chris or I. Llama, care to chime in?

dangermouse, I think it was you, but its ok. I sent an email to Chrisp.

Have you made the purge yet or are the other people in BloodyBounty still multis?

The purge hasn't been made yet. The trial is under way. =)

I had no such conversation and like my fellow moderators was very disturbed by the evidence I've seen thus far.

Tapia, you've made no attempt to email me.

Oooh buy, I can feel a purge coming up...../giddy

The following users were banned: EmperorTapia, marketing467, apollo464, Sultanhor, PrimeMinister1, Antichrist, Walesa, QueenElizabeth, Fuehr, Anastesia.

Please take up their CD's at the following game ID's: 5917, 6215

They were all the same person. The culprit had numerous accounts, many not even used... yet. The multi account detection system was furiously waving it's red flags.

They were all using the same computer, the usernames were unimaginative as were their dummy e-mail addresses.

The back story that they were a poli sci class at Berkeley didn't hold up when I did a simple directory search at the UC Berkeley website.

There was much more evidence I used to corroborate their culpability, but I feel I shouldn't divulge all my methods lest we get a dedicated multi accounter.

The real kicker was that he actually contacted me with the e-mails listed for one of the doppelganger accounts, marketing467.

Rest easy.

YAAAAAY Chrispminis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, I ended up picking up Italy's CD in the game that started this all, and was interested to see that there actually was in game communication between the three kicked players. However, that communication only seemed to start after sundwn started this thread and dealt almost exclusively with that topic. There was certainly no discussion of the intricate moves Italy and Austria were pulling off.

I love it. As soon as multi accounters start trying really hard to seem legitimate, they might as well play fairly. Otherwise, they leave a million clues that they are not legitimate players.

Thanks for grabbing the CD as well. I'm sure it's much appreciated.

Pity he had to lower himself to this kind of cheating. I played one game with Emperor Tapia, in which no other of his alter ego's were present. Athough I was Turkey and he was England, we had good contact which I enjoyed. I hope he will come back somehow, with one account, if the moderators allow it. He could be a really good player - in time. At least, he has the diplomatic skills.

Yeah, I offered to let him keep an account, but he continued to pretend that he was not a multi accounter. A thread that he posted earlier and the fact that he did play a game where he didn't multi account made me think he could go legitimate.

Although, perhaps it's better now. He can start fresh without having any of the bad press associated with his previous aliases.