Ironic, isn't it? Frankly, I was too lazy to look up the spelling. ;)

mmm, well Ican respect that lol.
this morning I didnt even roll up my sleeping bag I just left it there. ugh gotta go back for it now.

yeah, it's silly. a class for revolution??
thats like radio show for the daef

deaf

Or an anarchist mooching off of the government, right?

who says I'm mooching off the government?
it's not like I'm on welfare or get food stamps.

besides even if I did leech from the government that wouldnt be ironic, I hate the government, why would it be bad for me to manipulate them for my own survival just like they do to so many?
it would be ironic if I was running for office

Oh God, a meta-thread argument.

Notice they didn't call it "How to stage a SUCCESSFUL revolution." Now that would be an interesting class.

yeah well I cant give you too many pointers.
hundreds of smashed cop windows and intelligent converstaions later we're still here

doesnt matter though, I'm fairly certain that our civilization will collapse within the next 50-100 years

No, no, we must take all measures to ensure our financial 'system' survives. It occurs to me that this 'system' has long functioned to effectively pay a large number of brilliant people very large amounts of short-term money (high paid fresh-faced ivy-league wall-streeters) to come up with new imaginative ways ('financial engineering') to defraud ordinary people out of their wealth, consistently based on using alluring gains and easy credit. When the alluring gains fail to continue to materialize, the financial schema collapse, leaving the wealth at the top, the middle and lower-classes poorer, and all the wall-streeters with pink slips. However, we never let this system collapse, and almost always bail out the pyramids of the wealthy, so that this process can continue. We call this our financial 'system'.

I'm thinking here of the credit-bubbles of the 1920's leading to 1929, the crash of 1987, the S&L debacle, the Internet crash, and now the Housing Crisis. I could list more.

I'm not reffering to our financial system or economy. I mean our civilization as a whole. will. collapse.

Why are you so obsessed with the collapse of civilization? It would seem to be much more worrisome for you to know that YOU will collapse in 50-100 years, if not sooner. YOU were not designed to live forever so why should our society have been? Nobody can predict the future so how can you blame the world you grew up in for not planning hundreds of years into the future? Sounds like you better start believing in a god, quickly!

nobody can predict the future but some things should have been pretty obvious

Do you honestly believe that you were blessed with more forethought and intelligence than the vast majority of those who came before you?

thats not what I was implying.

saying even if what is happening now was unforseeable (which I dont think it was) then I think at least now peope shoul dbecome more aware of it

So... if you make it to 90 ripe years of age, are you going to start panicking? Will you drink every youth-potion you can get your hands on? I think society has had a great run and there's no way of predicting how it will go from here. Exciting!

I'm not looking to extend the life-span of civilization.
I just want to make people aware that they're not going to be able to continue this lifestyle forever, even the rest of their life.

I have a pretty good idea of what will happen

Where I come from Sicarius, we call that kind of remark crystal balls,

but then I got a proper education.

"How to stage a revolution"
in one easy lesson:
Go to a stage
Stand on it very still
Turn completely around.
Go left or right, does not matter it is still
a revolution.

Badddahhh Bing.

"How to stage a revolution"
in one easy lesson:
Go to a stage
Stand on it very still
Turn completely around.
Go left or right, does not matter it is still
a revolution.

Badddahhh Bing."
^^
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"...besides even if I did leech from the government that wouldnt be ironic, I hate the government, why would it be bad for me to manipulate them for my own survival "

Because by costing the government you aren't hurting government officials, you are incurring costs on honest hardworking citizens. Corporations and governments aren't the ones that bare the burden of thieves. Its just worked into costs. Does that not make you feel bad at all Sicarius?

Does anyone else sense, as I do from friends/family/media that the talk of 'Revolution' is in the air? People are getting that upset and desperate. If this election is stolen once again, it will begin with street protests...

if obama gets elected, i can see the liberals getting disillusioned with the systwm as their shining star does nothing
if mccain gets elected things will probably be more serious, as it will possibly be a rigged election.
oh and if mccain gets elected several parts of the country are going to secede from the united states, forcibly, with arms

Thats not true Sicarius and you didn't answer my question

Alright, Sicarius, I'll bet you 100$ that if McCain gets elected that no state will secede from the United States, let alone forcibly.

1) How can they. The liberals don't keep or bear arms. They rely on the military, which would be controlled by McCain.

2) Sicarius you should run for office. It is neither hippocritical nor ironic. It is the right thing to do. Create a party, run for office on your platform, which is the dismantling of the government. There really is nothing wrong with that at all. The anarcho-primitivist party.

Chris, I'd rather bet Sicarius his ideology than some amount of money. If his crystal ball proves false and the union is intact after McCain is elected (if that comes to pass) he should drop his alarmist ideology and rejoin society as a good, hardworking sludge-shoveler.

no states will secede kuz the media is controlled...there may be a riot in a few city's but no other city will hear about it...they will just say everything is fine....what has to be done first is the media dismantled or at least get there hands out of the politicians pockets

No it doesnt make me feel bad. the vast majority, something like 99% of my food and such is dumpstered, aka you already threw it away I'm not stealing anything. even if I did I still wouldnt feel bad, the governent steals billions from its citizens my food stamps or welfare or anything I could be on is unfairly passed on to the citizens in the 1st place, like when they steal pensions and social security to finance wars and etc etc
anyway the point is moot, because I'm NOT receiving any help from the government. I dont get food stamps or free health care or go to soup kitchens or anything.
so all due respect dude, shut up

@ the rest
I never said a state would secede.
What I was specifically referring to, although its bigger than quite a few states, is not actually a state, though it is encompassed by few.
and I also never said it was liberals doing it.
I cant see liberals getting 250,000 ak-47,s or raiding military boneyards for .50 cals etc
this really isnt up for disscussion. if McCain is elected, they will secede. they're prepared and willing and pissed off.

that said, I've personally talked to the militias of no less than 5 U.S. states who are planning just such a thing. that I'm much less sure about, cuz well they're state militias and some of them are kinda wacked out and tend toward delusional fantasies.

@Sicarius.

Ha! I certainly hope McCain doesn't win, but not for that reason.

I'm curious as to how you know this? Who is going to be doing the "seceding?" Where will it be? Should I be worried about finding myself in a warzone come inauguration day? Because regardless of the reason for it, I think I'd rather be somewhere else if that's going to happen.

How do they have the numbers and weapons necessary to do this without anyone, but apparently you, knowing about it?

And exactly what do you mean by "state militias?" The only officially sanctioned state militias I know of within the US are National Guard units, and all the others I know of are small and ineffectual, and/or filled with nut-jobs.

I suppose it's basically harmless, but just when you had started to get me to take you seriously you start saying things like this...

I know it because I'm helping

where do you live?
I dont think anyone here lives there, but I know some live very near

I'm not the only one who knows about it. I'm just the only one childish enough to be playing an internet game in the midst of so much more important shit.

I mean the non santioned ones. I'm not terribly concerned about them at all, they wont initiate anything I'm sure. but when the shit starts to hit the fan in 2 months, and a much larger scale in 1-2 years, they'll join in too.

as far as the army and national guard goes they know shit is about to go down. in a few days major combat units are being deployed within the U.S.

weapons are easy to get man. as far as bodies, lots of dissidents in the U.S. are willing to jump in, as well as forgein groups liek the zapatistas that are already sending people
not to mention everyone who already lives there

Well I live in the Washington DC area. Should I be concerned?

For someone who earlier claimed to have been investigated by the FBI you sure are talking fast and loose about a supposed impending armed uprising, that you claim to be involved in. Aren't you worried about people taking action against you beforehand?

Hell maybe you're right, maybe some serious shit is about to go down, hopefully not. I certainly hope, for MANY reasons, McCain won't win and we won't ever have to know if you're just making this stuff up or not.

If anyone reads about any raids or arrests related to a planned "uprising" or something and Sicarius suddenly stops posting and playing... I guess we'll know what happened!

well me being looked at by the FBI was for RNC stuff. so I doubt they're gonna track an email address thats not related to me and read all my postings on a game site, especially since thousands came to the rnc.
so I dont think matt mayer my friendly neighborhood agent is reading this.
2nd, I really doubt I'm high profile enough to warrant that kind of investigation. and if I am (which is possible by associations, thou maybe not any actions that are my own) then its already too late to worry about being careful
3rd it's not a secret really. it's been talked about, though not 'publically' in relatively unsecured events, such as the northwest climate convergence, great lakes anarchist gathering, and northwest climate convergence to name a few.

and after all that, yeah I'm still a little worried, especially with a few very very disturbing signs and rumors. such as the 'red list' being taken down srtarting in oct, the army being deployed domestically, in both georgia, and in colorado springs. the latter I only found out because I happen to be in denver, they're training right now in less lethal weapons, and probably goose-stepping and hile-ing or something.

I wouldnt be terribly concerned, besides the fact that DC is never really safe. I'm in denver and I actually seen some dude have a shootout with police liek half a block away from me a few hours ago. crazy. tangent, sorry.

hey feel free to think I'm making this up, actually go ahead, I"m just some crazy mixed up kid with high expectations and a keyboard, what do I know?
but dont dissmiss it, research it. look into things. how many people knew about the domestic deployment before i told them? I'm just saying pay attention and I fucking know you'll start seeing the shit all around.

I know I prolly sound like I"m a paranoid conspiracy theorist or something, but thats just how crazy it all is.
so please, assume I'm crazy, but keep your eyes open.


especially if you live in the southwest.

I said northwest climate convergence twice.
one of those was supposed to be crimethinc convergence.
but I've heard the rumblings of this for awhile, form alot of places.
one guy from south africa knew about it. crazy.