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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
17 Sep 15 UTC
The Republican Circ--er, Debate
Been a while since I've done this, but why not--

The (main) Republican debate is ongoing right now, will end soon...Trump, Carson, Bush, Fiorina, Rubio, Paul, Walker, Christie, Huckabee, Cruz and Kasich--who stood out, who took a dive, and who are the big winners and losers tonight? (Based on performance, NOT on who you agree with.)
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Deinodon (379 D(B))
16 Sep 15 UTC
Tell me a bed time story.
I want to hear a story about points. I see people with upwards of 3,000 D on here and I really don't get how that happens. There must be something of which I am unaware. I'm playing with other players of roughly my own level, which of course means I win some and I lose some. I really can't see so many people being so good that they always win so much. Are they not playing people at their level?
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backscratcher (459 D)
13 Sep 15 UTC
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Shouldn't a game be cancelled.
Shouldn't a game be cancelled or drawn if a country NMRs on the 1st turn and never comes back?
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ghug (5068 D(B))
16 Sep 15 UTC
Need Some New Gunboats
My GBT games are finishing up, and while I'm thoroughly frustrated with their results, I need to sate my addiction. Requirements are that you not suck. I'm not that great at gunboat though, so that mostly means know what you're doing and how a stalemate line works. Sing up for as many or as few as you please. 5 point bets, anon, WTA, hidden draw.
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ssorenn (0 DX)
15 Sep 15 UTC
A little help from my friends
See inside.....
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Frost_Faze (102 D)
16 Sep 15 UTC
Need A Player for Austria
gameID=167274

Relativley new game only in the 2 year. Austria has 5 centres doing pretty well. Join if you want! Need new Austrian player.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Sep 15 UTC
Great Position Replacement Needed
gameID=160875
Look at Kenya, 11 SCs, no centers about to be taken... this is the spot people. Take it. You want it. You... NEEEED it
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David Ridley (257 D)
16 Sep 15 UTC
Need a new player
I'm playing Russia in Maggost http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=166498 but will have to drop out. Would someone like to take over for me. I've cleared this with the mods.
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Frost_Faze (102 D)
15 Sep 15 UTC
Join the game!
Hey! Europe traditional game of Diplomacy.
PPSC with Anon players

gameID=167433
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diplomat61 (223 D)
14 Sep 15 UTC
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Push notification?
I find myself constantly checking WebDip page to see if something needs my attention. Is there a way of getting a notification when a game advances or even if you receive a message?

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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
15 Sep 15 UTC
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Please welcome our new admin, HR
Given HR's poor performance as a mod, I have promoted him to admin status. For the most part, it doesn't change anything for you guys, but now you know who looks at your complains about mods or ban appeals. Thanks, HR, for agreeing to take on this task. #LongLiveModCurse
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tvrocks (388 D)
12 Sep 15 UTC
Comtroversial ideas regarding infinity
there is one infinity, 1/infinity=0 and .9 repeating is one. Domyou guys agree with any od these statements? I personally disagree with all of them and would like to discuss it.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
25 Jul 15 UTC
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webDip Player Map
The webDip Player Map can be used to help coordinate F2F games, find tournaments, or just get a sense of webDip demographics. If you'd like to be added, post here with your City, Country, and Color Preference.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zkz1OHicklqk.ky67Va8gNVi0
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DeathLlama8 (514 D)
11 Sep 15 UTC
Live Mafia Interest?
As below, above?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
10 Sep 15 UTC
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House Game Cambridge, MA 9/19
Looking for two players. Casual, fun, you can make fun of abge's mustache. PM or post if interested or for more info.
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
12 Sep 15 UTC
Labour and Jeremy Corbyn
In a couple of hours the UK's Labour Party will announce the winner of its leadership contest. The favourite to win is Jeremy Corbyn, the most left-wing of the four candidates, but moderate candidate Andy Burnham has told supporters he feels he still has an "outside chance". Post thoughts and reactions here...
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Fluminator (1500 D)
03 Sep 15 UTC
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Transgender student demanding girls' locker room and bathroom.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/us/teenagers-protest-a-transgender-students-use-of-the-girls-bathroom.html?_r=0
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2ndWhiteLine (2736 D(B))
13 Sep 15 UTC
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Mod Team Announcement
The mod team is please to announce that uclabb has agreed to join the team as our newest mod. Please make him feel welcome.
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charlesf (100 D)
13 Sep 15 UTC
1936 Variant: Tournament Invitation
I am seeking participants in a small tournament featuring my 1936 variant.
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wjessop (100 DX)
01 Sep 15 UTC
Does the Pope eat on Mondays?
Winner is the last person to post an inane question when the thread is locked due to inactivity.
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EmmaGoldman (1001 D)
13 Sep 15 UTC
New game, PPS, 160pts bid, anon.; The coming autumn
looking for a good straight forward game, check out 'The Coming Autumn'
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
13 Sep 15 UTC
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Social Justice Warriors
Social Justice Warriors and the politically correct tribe are ruining America.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
12 Sep 15 UTC
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Ladies and Gentlemen
It's been an honor. I have stepped down as an admin. Wish you all the best.
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pidbew (100 D)
12 Sep 15 UTC
Someone take over my account
I am going out of town and won't have internet access. I currently have only one game running (http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=167022), and it is going pretty well. If you want to, post below or send me a message, and I will send you the password.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
04 Sep 15 UTC
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Pacifist SRG
'The Gunboat varient is only one step more enjoyable that the infamous Pacifist varient, in which speaking is allowed but moving units is forbidden and the winner is the last player to lose the will to live.'--Octavious
gameID=166960
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diplomat61 (223 D)
10 Sep 15 UTC
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Haiku diplomacy
Sad promise of Spring / Foul rumours threaten the peace / Dark days lie ahead

Proposed: public press only (in Haiku form), anon, 24 hour turns, PPSC.
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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
11 Sep 15 UTC
Can you actually solo without someone throwing the game?
I recently got my first solo in a non-live, full-press WTA game since 2010, but only because one player decided to throw me the game. Even at 17 centers, I could still have been stopped if everyone else worked together. This got me wondering: are there examples if high-quality games where somebody got a solo without being thrown one?
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Eadan (454 D)
12 Sep 15 UTC
World Map Question
Question about the RIS squares on the board.

In the lower left-hand corner of the map - it that land, water, or both? Looking on the lower right-hand of the map, there appears to be an RIS land but also an RIS water. Which is it and do either of those territories directly link to the two squares in the lower left-hand side of the map?
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StackelbergFollower (1463 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
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Jun 2015 GR Challenge - Game 1 EOGs
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=163864
Result: Two-way draw between England and Turkey (my first two-way draw!)

This was honestly a pretty cut-and-dry game for me. I can almost never say, but aside from small details, I wasn’t really once surprised by anything that happened in this game. I had fun, though, mostly because Austria-Turkey and England-Turkey are both fun alliances. EOG below.
StackelbergFollower (1463 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
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Pre-game:
I draw Turkey, and I’m just coming off another game where I played Turkey, allied with Austria, and had it work splendidly for me, so my first instinct is to try it again because it’s often unexpected and my theory is that folks get nervous as Austria and will accept offers of an alliance when they come. But, to keep my options open, I talk to Russia about a juggernaut, too.

The long and short of is this: talks with Austria go fairly well, and they go pretty well with England, too. Germany and France want to attack England, and Austria is happy to steer Italy in that direction. I have a decent conversation with Italy, too, and he seems to be happy not to fight me or go lepanto as long as I don’t build F Smy.

My negotiations with Russia are pretty disastrous, though. I try to sell Russia on the RT opening I did in one of the ODC games recently (where I played Russia) and the main effect of that proposal is that Russia (Valis) figures out who I am right away. He also hates the opening, but the alternative he proposes has a lot of my units doing nothing in S01 to achieve the slingshot, so I decide to just open against Russia and deal with the consequences later. Russia is opening north at Austria’s request and I lie to Russia about wanting a DMZ in the Black SEa.

Spring 1901:

I’ve opened to the black sea and Armenia, and I get a lot of angry press from Russia. I mostly send him BS in reply, although I do explain I decided to attack him because I hated all his proposals from before moves went through. Meanwhile, Austria and I are discussing potential moves to keep Russia from getting any builds in 1901, and we settle on a plan.

In the west, Germany and England open against France, but I believe Germany told France there would be a Sealion, so England doesn’t get the channel. Pretty good start for Germany, shame it falls apart so soon after this.

Fall 1901:
This is the turn where I start to get a little incredulous about what’s happening around me. The A/T alliance is going to become very obvious as Austria supports Bul-Rum while I support Arm-Sev, continuing our plan to keep Russia from building this year.

Germany and Italy are both happy discussing plans to attack France with me, and this is the main source of my incredulity. It seems to me they really should be worried about my alliance with Austria, but I guess they figure we’ll come to blows sooner or later. Fair enough, because I’m in relatively constant conversation at this point with England and Germany about whether or not I can really trust Austria not to attack me.

Also, in a big twist, Norway is left neutral because England goes to belgium! England was in a tough spot to get a build after having one of his fleet moves get bounced, but I had expected Russia to take Norway since he had to be reasonably sure England wouldn’t.

But he doesn’t, and the year ends with Russia down to 3, Austria and I both on 5 (but Bulgaria is still neutral by design)

I build a fleet and an army, honouring my agreement with Italy not to build a fleet in Smyrna. Italy had moved to Tyrr Sea in the spring, so I know a lepanto is not coming anyway.

1902:

This year is primarily about Austria and I continuing to kill Russia, England and Germany’s tenuous alliance coming apart, and Italy attacking France.

Austria and I had been exchanging a lot of messages last year, but starting this year, he becomes much less available. We basically exchange just 2-3 messages each turn for the rest of the game, almost only discussing moves. And our position is almost always so good that it’s not really that hard to find winning moves, so these are easy conversations. But Austria’s inattentiveness becomes a factor later.

In the fall, England stabs Germany and it’s...something. There is a proposal to give England Sweden and Germany Belgium, and England just reneges on his part of the deal, and tries to take Holland to boot (although the second part doesn’t work since Germany supports Hol-Bel). Just two turns early, Germany had told me he was pretty sure England would stab him eventually, and I had told him he was probably right. England had also told me he was going to stab Germany in 1903/1904, so I wasn’t giving bad advice.

At the end of the year, Russia is closer to death, Italy and Germany’s attack on France has basically gone nowhere, and England has kind of weakly stabbed Germany. It doesn’t much matter, though, because Austria and I are planning to hit Germany and Italy at the same time next year. England and I keep talking about to kill Russia, although this thing about killing Russia becomes a sticking point between us later. There are also some more funny hints about how no one thinks my alliance with Austria can list, from England and Italy in press. I’m sort of planning to run with the alliance until I can’t.

1903:

Spring 1903 is a great turn. Austria moves to Silesia, Bohemia, Italy moves Ven-Tyr and...Austria moves Tri-Ven! After this happens, I get a message from Italy, who basically points out that my neighbour has just exposed every single one of his SCs to me and I could just start taking them all. A bit self-interested since Italy dies if I don’t do that.

Germany sends me basically the same message. England had a slight advantage over him, but Austria attacking him means he’s done. Unfortunately for Italy and Germany, I don’t see that stabbing Austria now gives me a decent chance to solo, and this attack is pretty much everything I had wanted. There’s some confusion from the others, too, since I move Rum-Gal and for a split second, it seems like italy thinks I might already be stabbing Austria. I’m not, though.

Italy uses his dying breaths to cripple all the other minor powers. Instead of defending against our attack, he puts all his unit to use taking SCs from France and sneaking into Munich while Germany can’t defend against him because of England. At the same time, Austria and I take Warsaw and Moscow.

1904:

This year brings the death of Germany, as Austria takes Munich and Berlin (with my help in the latter case), but for me, it’s mainly about Russia. In the spring, Russia, who is now down to two centers, curiously leaves Sweden and moves his fleet to GoB, and just keeps his army in StP. Meanwhile, England is too encumbered to cover Norway so I’m thinking Russia has hatched a devious scheme to get a build.

England basically spills the beans to me that, yes, he’s going to let Russia get into Norway with his army, and it’s up to me and Russia whether or GoB and Mos bounce in StP (allowing Russia to build), both hold (allowing Russia to build) or one of us holds but the other moves (keeping Russia from building). I don’t want Russia to have a build or England to have a pawn, so I make a deal with Russia to bounce in StP with no intention of actually moving there. At this point, I’ve lied to Russia all game.

England knows what my plan is, and so does Austria, and it goes as expected. Russia orders GoB-StP and can’t build. Somewhere around this time, I propose a carebear deal to Austria, which obviously I end up breaking later on myself, but I was at a pretty big disadvantage when I proposed it.

1905-1906:

I know this game goes until 1912, but it honestly more or less ends here for me. Russia and England have some huge blowout that I still don’t understand, even though they hash it out in global after the draw. Russia starts making me offers, and at the end of 1905 I’ve got armies in StP and Finland. Norway is impossible, though, and the way I’m set up in the Balkans, I’m a million miles away from everything I own if Austria stabs me. So I’m pretty nervous about what Russia is suggesting I do.

So I give up on Norway, tell Russia there’s no deal, and pull back a little. Russia mutes me and England, and by the end of 1906 Italy and Russia are eliminated. I also resume two-way draw talks with England, since it seems like it’s impossible to solo.

1907-1910:

I stab Austria in the spring, without telling England first, and the next four years I’m just slowly but surely taking all his centers and setting up the stalemate. Austria basically has Iberia, Marseilles, Germany’s home centers, parts of Italy, and his home centers at the start. I figure I can very safely get everything without risking much since England is pretty far behind me in SC count, and I can make it safe for England to eliminate Austria on the line later.

There really isn’t a lot of effort going into these years for me. England and Austria actually have to cooperate, and England never solidly commits to the two-way since a part of their talks are setting up a line so that Austria feels secure about not being stabbed. They probably have interesting things to say about this period.

1911:

I’m only including this year to make fun of basva. It is very possible for the last 6 or 7 of Austria’s centers to fall this year, without there being (much) chance of me taking the solo. I send him some moves that wouldn’t really leave the door open, and consider going for it by throwing all my units towards Marseilles, but England makes it pretty clear that he won’t be taking everything off Austria.

So Austria is left with one center (Paris) and one unit (Tyrolia) after this turn.

1912:

We ready up to turns and draw after Austria is eliminated. For laughs, Austria and I try Sil-Mun in the fall, but it basically has no chance of succeeding since England has a stalemate.

Anyway, fun game, but pretty cut and dry for me for most of it. The early phase, from 1902-1904, was basically just me and Austria making good moves that were easy to agree to tactically, and the endgame was basically just me taking Austrian centers as fast as I could without risking England getting past the stalemate line. All the exciting diplomacy for me was pretty much confined to 1901-1902 and 1904-1905.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
Thanks for the detailed EOG! It was indeed a pretty short game in actuality. Having like a month long pause or something close to that didn't help either. I don't have much to say. A/T were basically the same person until I was dead, and nothing I could say would change that, not that I didn't try. Austria at one point straight up admitted that his actions were not good for him but he was just gonna hope he could be essential on the line. I went to both England and Turkey to be a pawn and both eventually refused me. Some you win, some you lose. With the exception of England, everyone was great and global was a fun time.

I don't think you necessarily said or feel so, but don't feel bad I knew who you were instantly, that happens to a lot of people at high levels, whether it's referencing certain events, talking a certain way, etc. Doesn't change any play.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
I just went over my press with you in A01, it wasn't angry at all =( </3

"This isn't a key lepanto, not how this works. I'm not going to be your ally if you do whatever you want, waste my time reading hundreds of words, and just expect me to take it lying down.

I'm only willing to talk if you're willing to not waste my time"

is by far the most aggressive thing I said. But I'm known to have different perspectives than others so I'm willing to be at fault if that's what happened.
Maybe angry is the wrong word, but certainly accusing me of wasting your time isn't, like, friendly. Also, it was true. I *was* wasting your time. The fact that you realized it made me want to stop trying. If I had thought I was fooling you, counterintuitively, I might have kept fishing for something. But my mind was more or less made up when Austria agreed to support Bul-Rum anyway, so I don't know what you could have done. Aside from taking Norway. You should have taken Norway.

And yeah, I'm sure it wasn't a factor that you ID'd me. Folks figure things out pretty quickly in semi-anon games anyway. Maybe in my future EOGs I will also note when the game stopped being even remotely semi-anon for me (in this game, it was F01).
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
I accept that you feared me, that I let slip too much of my intelligence, and that I was understandably upset at you continually and exclusively lying to and attack me.

Alright good EOG everyone that's a wrap.
Awesome EOG, Stack! I'll comment and post my own tomorrow morning.Valis will play the lead role, so you've got a lot to look forward to ;)
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
bump for Stack to find the thread
So Pete U asked in global why everyone attacked France in 1901. I'm doing this from memory, and I'd welcome basva, rdrivera, and dyager_nh adding some commentary. But for my part, Austria and I both asked Italy to go west, mainly because we (or I) wanted the alliance, and I just wanted to attack Russia without having to worry about a lepanto. The attack on France was also a very nice thing for me because I was hoping to have an easy time getting into Spain or Marseilles one day, but of course that didn't happen. I never once had a great opportunity to take a stab at Iberia.

I encouraged Germany to attack France and before S01 went through, rdrivera and I were already exchanging press about how it was clear the losers from the first set of moves would be Russia and France. I forget whether or not Germany knew Austria was going to get Russia to open north or not, and it looks like basva (as England) had independent reasons for wanting the attack on France. I think Germany largely got caught on momentum; he knew I was attacking Russia and Italy and England were attacking France. And Germany seemed confident in his press to me about his ability to work with Italy (though not England, and rightfully so it turned out).
Pete U (293 D)
11 Sep 15 UTC
France EOG (short)

I quite like playing France, normally…

So, S01 – agreed DMZ with Italy, Germany AND England. Germany wants a Sealion, and I go with ‘Happy to work together, but not launching a full scale assault in S01’. Lookignback at the press I can’t recall why I changed my fleet move to the Channel, but I’m glad I did, as everyone else violates agreed DMZ. Both Italy and Germany specifically agreed the DMZ (Bur & Pie respectively).

The rest of the game can be summarised as Italy ignoring the A/T until the last minute (I have no idea why he kept the assault on me going while his home centres got hovered up) and England being a good working partner until he decided he could cut Russia then me out of the draw (at which point Turkey should have got the solo)
Yes, Valis, you told me that was coming, but I’ve never been a solo thrower, so that cost me any chance of a survive or a draw. Hey ho

Was a good game overall – I’d play with any of you again

Pete U (293 D)
11 Sep 15 UTC
The frustrating thing for me is that Italy & Germany confirmed the DMZs they broke in turn 1. Italy never even tried to engage in a discussion, even while the A/T grew. I'm really pleased I outlasted them both :P
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
Pete, you were in a tough position, maybe more tough than mine because it wasn't such an obvious defeat as on my side of the board. While you didn't do what I would have done, that doesn't mean it wasn't the right choice. Everyone plays for different reasons =) Always happy to play with you again.
Pete U (293 D)
11 Sep 15 UTC
No probs Valis - one day we'll play a game together and both be there at the end, bestriding Europe like colussuses (colussi?)
Bit of bad luck I'd say. Italy was convinced to go west really quickly by Austria and I, though I'm less clear on what Germany's motives were.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
11 Sep 15 UTC
I used to be able to say that Pete won the non-anon games and I won the anon games but now we've both lost an anon game and a non-anon game together :/
Pete U and I have almost always made it to the draw together, I'm pretty sure. I think this might be the first game we've both been in where one of us was eliminated.
@ Pete U: I think you played an essentially perfect game from Fall 1901 (spring obviously could've been better) until Fall 1904. In 1905 you agreed to a set-up with your fleets in Wes & Naf, which meant you were powerless to a stab be my and Austria. And you disbanded your fleets instead of armies, which made it real easy for me to keep you contained and eliminate you slowly. I think the move that would've guaranteed you the draw is Mao-Nao in Spring 1905.
Nah, that move would have guaranteed me a solo ;)
I don't get why everyone was convinced you'd solo in 1904. You were on 9 centers, with Austria on 9 too. Maybe you'd have gotten a fleet past Mao, Spain or Marseilles, but how are you taking all of Austria's 9 centers without losing your gains in the Med?
If I knew the answer to that, I would have won this game. But if France had attacked you, it's possible I could have gotten a more solid grip on any of StP, Marseilles, or Spain before you or Austria could have done something about it, especially Russian were helping me.

If France moves MAO-NAO and sneaks into Liverpool, how many turns go by and how many fleets do I have by Iberia before you two start cooperating again? Hard for me to say, but I wish I'd tried a bit harder to get France to do something like that. He never had any interest all game in throwing or threatening to throw, and Russia did, so Valid was my preoccupation in 1904.
If he had moved Mao-Nao (which I was pretty afraid of honestly), I'd have offered to allow him in to Liverpool uncontested and never attempt to take it back, if he took it with his fleet instead of a convoy. That would've allowed him to build an extra fleet, secure the line in time so as to not lose Spain, Mar or Mao (or at least not multiple) and would've left me with not enough units to take him out safely. It's a risky move, I agree, but I was pretty worried about it during the game.


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Chumbles (791 D(S))
11 Sep 15 UTC
Reliability Ratings and drop outs
We all have games where players losing drop out, but there are some which get utterly ruined by guys in pivotal positions going AWOL. Is it time that players who are proven unreliable have to sit out for a period?
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