yea it really is, I am very glad that the Russian Federation kept the anthem around

http://youtu.be/bGoNaLjQrV8

I really like the Holy Roman Empire's anthem, that was passed to Austria-Hungary and even Germany as well

Easily Mauritania.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jboyim8K7_A

Turkey's is pretty great too

http://youtu.be/czjwKKIpXwM

Sorry dip, but I think the Red Army Choir has it there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVdVTVR-j0Q

Lots of anthems.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9V19RDYNkjzdD8T-ThH2fw

And you can't leave out La Marseilles

Can't argue, KingC

Just the version I posted has the updated, non-Soviet words

I agree there are so many awesome epic anthems!

For former ones, it gets no better than East Germany's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh9XN9z1lzo

yea the GDR anthem is pretty cool, and just another of the cold war era anthems

Kazakhstan! Greatest country in the world!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv5jLsLoYcE

A couple old threads:
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threadID=590652

I didn't realize the topic had already come up, still interesting though

The threads are quite old. But it makes sense for threads like this come up with people who play a political game. I'm sure I've missed some since 2010.

The start of the Italian one is pretty good.

Yeah, but the last half hour of it lets it down.

Invictus, I'm happy I can agree with you here. Simply the (second) best national anthem (best is the Marseillaise).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM&spfreload=10

with lyrics. Also, I guess it is the only anthem that spent a big part of its life without the lyrics (they were forbidden since the 70s, but don't kill me about the date).

The Georgian anthem,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RRHnPnqFNE

And the Romanian anthem,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTwgwEHiWm0

are pretty bad ass IMO.

Nothing beats the old soviet anthem though.

Yes, the GDR/DDR anthem is one of the best national anthems there has ever been. An equally moving East German song is the famous "Workers of Vienna" (which actually dates from 1927):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SDL6d2M-ic

Mauretanias sounds like when a villain is introduced to a movie

X3n0n: The Spanish anthem is still without lyrics. San Marino, Bosnia & Herzegovina and Kosovo also have no lyrics to their national anthems.

SantaClausowitz:
Oh, you have no idea. Have you ever heard Montenegro's national anthem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPtPjMdtofk
OH BRIGHT DAWN OF MAY
WE CRUSH BONES TO DUST

the ussr:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
2:24-2:34 is kinda like sex for communist ears

You lot obviously haven't heard Katherine Jenkins singing the Welsh National Anthem
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Welsh+National+Anthem+Katherine+Jenkins&Form=VQFRVP#view=detail&mid=3A41B331DA61D3FB65633A41B331DA61D3FB6563
What a voice. Unsurpassed..... except when sung by the crowd at the Millennium Stadium while we're beating England at Rugby.

@JECE thx for the reminder. I actually found it interesting that the anthem has lyrics but that the anthem's lyrics were forbidden.

Btw. Does the International count? I mean it used to be the inaugural Soviet Union anthem and it's pretty cool, too.

Yea I'd say that would count.

X3n0n: I didn't know that either.

"Unsurpassed..... except when sung by the crowd at the Millennium Stadium while we're beating England at Rugby"

I guess it must be the rarity value that makes that such a treat. Both Flower of Scotland and Ireland's Call are better ;)

@ Octavious
2013 30-3 Wales
2011 19-9 Wales
2011 19-26 England
2009 23-15 Wales
2007 27-18 Wales
2005 11-9 Wales
5 out of 6. "Rarity value" ? ? ?
That's what I love about the English. They never let facts inhibit their prejudices.
Oh and to cap it all, the Post Office have just emailed me to announce they're delivering my tickets today.

You're seriously including World Cup warm up matches in your stats? Lol! You have to admire the Welsh and their determination to big themselves up as much as humanly possible. Still, technically you are correct. Alas, a bit of a dry spell is on the way methinks.

@Octavious
I'm sure you would have been wanting to include warm-up matches if they had gone your way. 4 out of 5 is still a lot better than 1 out of 5.
"Technically" correct ? - as in "factually" correct, as opposed to "I wish I didn't have to acknowledge it's true" correct.
"A bit of a dry spell is on the way" ? I'm hoping that your predictions of the future are as accurate as your memories of the past.
The next match is at 8pm on Friday 6th. Don't forget to watch it, because if you lose, there'll be a news black-out on the BBC.

Accurate as my memories of the past? My dear Thomas, I was working on the assumption that most people would consider 4 occasions (ok, technically 5 ;) ) since the turn of the century a rare event. Perhaps you don't.

Still, the only stats that matter

6 Nations England & Wales match wins since 2010: England 3, Wales 2
6 Nations England & Wales match wins since 2000: England 9, Wales 6

Long may the trend continue! Looking forward to the game :)

Your initial observation was about matches at the Millennium, but because the facts did not suit your narrative, you change the subject.
Now you give statistics of 6 nations matches since 2000 and assert a "trend".
It's sad this! Poor memory! Poor use of the English language.
A trend is a development over time....
Since 2000.
First 4 matches: E4 W0
Next 4 matches: E2 W2
Next 4 matches: E2 W2
Next 3 matches: E1 W2.
If there is a "trend" at all, it is not in England's favour.
I'm looking forward to seeing in what way you change the subject this time.
Let me remind you, the thread was about Anthems. Maybe you want to mention the manoeuvrability of your chariots. At least on that there may be some agreement.

The tread was about anthems, which is why my post was for my preference for the Scottish and Irish rugby anthems. Being Welsh you then went off on one about Welsh victories ;). My initial observation was about the rarity of occasions the Welsh sing it when they're winning, which the facts support 100%. You have now gone out of your way to find a way of looking at the stats that makes the Welsh team look good, which backs my second observation about the Welsh "determination to big themselves up as much as humanly possible".

Sigh... The truth shall out next month. England aren't as good as they should be, so you have a fighting chance. We shall see :)

"England aren't as good as they should be" A good idea to get your excuses in first.
Indeed we shall see. And I'll be there to see it and to sing of it.
Repeat after me .... "Mae hen Wlad fy Nhadau..."

Lol! You Welsh do enjoy your rants. If an Englishman dares sound confident you start ranting about arrogance. If he doesn't you start ranting about excuses :p.

Good luck on the Friday. Only two weeks left for debates over whether the roof should be open or not :p.

Rant? Rant? RANT? You ain't heard nothing yet. If you'd spent the last 599 years under the heel of an imperialist foreign government, YOU'D KNOW HOW TO RANT.

I'm sure I would. If that had happened to you I dare say you would with ease. Yet impressively you can make a damned good attempt at it even without that background.

:-)