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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
16 Nov 14 UTC
Facebook's "community standards"
I'm interested in my fellow webDippers' views regarding a complaint I recently made to Facebook.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
18 Nov 14 UTC
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Dastardly Deeds Indeed!!!
My two beautiful National Cat Day games, World and Classic, have been defiled, neigh, RAPED by metagamers. I implore the people of webdiplomacy: stahp
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oscarjd74 (100 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Overweight Women Eat More
Just a guess. I have no proof for this.
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
17 Nov 14 UTC
What's an Enemy?
I found that enemies are most enemies that aren't interested in the interests of other friends' enemies and most people are not people that I would make as an enemy because it takes a friend to make an Enemy with interests like those of your enemy. I always hang out with enemies but never with my enemies because our interests are the same.

So what's this thread anyway?
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ShaolinNinja (341 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
Looking to Gun some Boats? Inquire within!
Join it to Gun some Boats in utter silence with me!
Readying up early preferred to prevent waits between phases.
gameID=150582
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semck83 (229 D(B))
07 Nov 14 UTC
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Why marriage at all?
I'm curious. Let's set aside the gay-marriage discussion and ask the question: why (if at all) does / should society *legally* recognize a relationship between two adults, encouraging it by granting it special legal status? What do you think are the reasons this has occurred so widely? Are they good reasons?
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
17 Nov 14 UTC
What's a friend?
I've found that some of the people that a lot of people would identify as my friends don't interest me and aren't that fun hanging out with for me while there's also one person in particular whom I'm always eager to help out and who is probably the first person I'd go to if I need advice/support/whatever, but I think we're both inclined not to call eachother friends.

So what's a friend anyway?
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
17 Nov 14 UTC
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New Church tax?
http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/small_town_may_be_first_in_u_s_to_tax_its_churches

I'm tentatively opposed. Discuss.
KingCyrus (511 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
Pretty sure that this would be catastrophic to all non-profits in the town.
OutsideSmoker27 (204 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Churches are taxed in (a lot of?) other countries outside the US. I'm in favor of letting churches, and really any non-profit worthy of the name, be exempt from taxation. On the other hand, if Nome does go ahead with this and it somehow turns into a widespread trend, I'm certainly not going to start crying "persecution!" and "we're victims here!" over it. I would, however, vote against such a measure if I were ever in a position to do so. Tax-exempting seems like a reasonable way to encourage the voluntary sector (something I'm all in favor of encouraging), a bit like the ability to deduct charitable donations against one's taxable income.
JECE (1253 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Yellowjacket: It's weird to conflate churches with non-profits. Churches are definitely not non-profits.
KingCyrus (511 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
@JECE, blame the tax codes on that one.
A bad way to implement an idea that I oppose but can understand support for. I would think removing a church's (or churches') tax-exempt nonprofit status would be the way to go about taxing them if one felt that they didn't deserve such an exemption; this method throws the baby out with the bathwater (if indeed churches' tax-exempt status is even bathwater at all).
JECE (1253 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
KingCyrus: I guess you're right. A comment in the article directs people to:
http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organizations/nome-ak-alaska.asp
I didn't notice it the first time I opened the link, but now that I went back and checked, I noticed a few churches on the list.

Interestingly enough, though, U. S. churches can apparently loose tax-exempt status under certain conditions:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf
I wonder if any of that is actually enforced.
semck83 (229 D(B))
17 Nov 14 UTC
Very rarely, JECE, and it's usually very hard to do. The Church of Scientology had a very long, very ugly battle with the IRS that it finally won, and it was a relatively obvious case. Also, there are pastors who break the political endorsement rules, and little is usually done about it.

Anyway, I'm opposed as well. I'm actually a little surprised that's even allowed under Alaska state law, but that's the beauty of having fifty different states, I guess.

Taxing nonprofits is one of the most direct ways to make life worse for society's most vulnerable; in many cases, that includes churches. (Some churches, it might make life directly worse for other sectors of society).

JECE, under typical definitions of non-profits, churches are clearly non-profits. There are no stockholders receiving dividends from left-over intake. It's true that in some large churches (as in some other non-profits), a scandalous amount of money is spent on salaries and on frivolous expenditures. That's far from universal, and I'd be surprised if Nome has any megachurches.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
I want to move to Nome now. Great news.
thdfrance (187 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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The initial reason Churches were exempt from taxation was in an effort to ensure that the government and church would remain independent of each other was it not? Taxation of religious entities could lead to indirect government support or discrimination against specific religious groups. I'm not saying that this is the case now, but I can't say I'd be in favor of this idea.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Churches are not even audited. They make tons of money, discriminate against their workers in their "non-profit" businesses with impunity, and consistently meddle in the political process. All the while they cry persecution from the rooftops whenever anybody opposes the draconian policies they want to impose on everybody.

I hope Nome is just the beginning.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Nov 14 UTC
@Putin, they make tons of money? Maybe the mega churches & massive organized religions (Catholics, etc), but there is a huge (majority I'm sure) % of individual small churches that barely scrap by month to month and rely on volunteers to get even the most basic services done. Many Pastors of the churches hold part time jobs to get by. Or their wives take on 2nd jobs so the family can have health insurance so the church doesn't have to pay for it.

Don't be blind in thinking that the most biggest denominations are the overwhelming majority on the 'per church' level.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
17 Nov 14 UTC
*most biggest = yes, I said it!
Putin33 (111 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Mormons are super rich (tithing brings in boatloads). Catholics are super rich. Baptists are super rich. Buddhist temples extract huge membership fees to join. A Presbyterian pastor friend of mine (long story) lives in a palace of a home in Hookstown, PA.

Sorry I don't buy the pastors are struggling to get by story. Maybe if they allowed their churches to be audited and the data reflected that I'd believe it.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Methodists must be rich enough to buy up half the hospitals, as well.

So, what is left?
oscarjd74 (100 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
Satanists seem to be rather poorly funded.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Jewish clergy are paid very well, some over six digits a year. I don't know why people think that they struggle.
Invictus (240 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Sorry, Putin33. This isn't the harbinger of the new Jacobin order you want so badly. All it is is a municipality proposing to revoke the current exemption nonprofits have from paying sales tax. Whether churches pay local or state sales tax varies all over the country.

This is no revolution. It's click bait.
JamesYanik (548 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
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all taxes are wrong and we should all resort to individual subsistence farming.
JECE (1253 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
JamesYanik: Ha ha. We can use the church buildings for firewood while we're at it.


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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
17 Nov 14 UTC
Overweight Women Earn Less
Accompanying article: http://www.theguardian.com/money/us-money-blog/2014/oct/30/women-pay-get-thin-study

Full study: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2379575
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Zach0805 (100 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
Keystone Pipeline
Senate Finally Going To Vote On The Keystone Pipeline.
Pro: Tens of thousands of new jobs and less dependent on foriegn oil
Con:Apparently Dirty Oil and its a major pollution problem
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JamesYanik (548 D)
17 Nov 14 UTC
I need a life.
Not a cat game but those will come soon, but here we go gameID=150577 American Empire Game
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
17 Nov 14 UTC
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Spam That F5 EOG
Full Press Nonanon Live Game. What could possibly go wrong?
gameID=150558
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
14 Nov 14 UTC
Taylor Swift and Spotify
Does it matter that she took her music off the streaming service? Does anyone really care? Or is this something that artists will need to do if they want to make money off their work?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
16 Nov 14 UTC
Today Sucks
I ran into my garage door.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Nov 14 UTC
Seems like a pro map
As a nerd I look at old variants. Imagine this but with one exception: fleets can travel down rivers but armies can't cross rivers. I'm thinking about writing some programming and making this one into a variant (on a separate URL) but who here likes this map? looks like a good map for me.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Nov 14 UTC
NFL Pick 'em Week 11: The Playoff Push Kicks into High Gear
Well, sorry, we missed the Dolphins top the Bills...but there's still tine to pick the rest of the week! Among the early games, Bengals/Saints and 49ers/Giants are suddenly two games with four teams clawing at the edges of their playoff races, while in the afternoon, a trifecta of great games--Seahawks/Chiefs, Lions/Cardinals (with the #1 seed in the NFC on the line!) and Eagles/Packers. SNF? Brady vs. Luck and the Pats vs. the Colts! Week 11...it's getting important...pick 'em!
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Strauss (758 D)
16 Nov 14 UTC
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All Supports at a Glance

Especially in live games it's important to be able to see all supports fast. On the standard map of interface not all supports are indicated. Below the standard map you can open a large map, there you see all supports at a glance. Useful instrument, it shouldn't be neglected.
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OutsideSmoker27 (204 D)
14 Nov 14 UTC
A joke from QI, as read by Stephen Fry
I recited this joke to my wife this morning, and she laughed uproariously. But I'm curious about what the general consensus would be here: humorous, inappropriate, or humorously inappropriate?

http://youtu.be/hF9h_UPxsDg?t=7m34s
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
14 Nov 14 UTC
How about we make special threads for those who like 'violence' and 'abuse'?
It'd be places where, you know, krellin is allowed to live up to his true potential, and where he can share his love with YJ again through hateful remarks.. Because yes, some of us miss that.

So maybe we can get cut more slack in threads that use a specific thread designation (like *VULGAR*......*VULGAR), warning in OP not to open the thread if you're fainthearted, making clear all threats, hate remarks etc. will be jokes.. Wouldn't that work?
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
15 Nov 14 UTC
Need a sitter
I have 3 games, all FP, going at the moment. My primary source of contact (Blackberry) has been disabled and I won't be able to check in as often as needed. I really hate committing to something that I can't live up to, and that includes Dip games. I have no idea when I will have a new phone available to make playing more reasonable. So, I'm looking for a trustworthy soul to sit my account for a while whilst I acquire a new phone. PM me if interested.
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TrPrado (461 D)
15 Nov 14 UTC
Variant Alliance Names
I've recently become a tad curious about this. For the classic map, basically every alliance has some sort of name (as you all should be aware) from the Juggernaut to the Lepanto to the Western Triple and so on. I can't seem to find preexisting names for alliances for other maps, no matter how wonderful that alliance could potentially be. Have you all heard of any? Or else what names should there be for some of the alliances in the variants?
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tvrocks (388 D)
14 Nov 14 UTC
Most obvious banned player or/ and the stupidest player
discuss.
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Noob Confused about Canceling Support w/ Attack
After a 1.5 weeks of playing a lot of live gunboat, I thought I understood that moves/attacks towards a space with a unit providing support to another unit cancel out that support. True, right? Or not? Or sometimes?
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
14 Nov 14 UTC
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Who appreciates this site???
I greatly appreciate the effort that goes into maintaining this site. Thanks to all those involved. That doesn't mean I won't argue with y'all when the situation merits, but thanks for giving us a site where we can argue with you. Or each other.

Much appreciated. You are freely providing a service that is highly valued by many, many people.
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VirtualBob (192 D)
14 Sep 14 UTC
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September Ghost Ratings?
Any word on when to expect September Ghost Ratings to be released?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Nov 14 UTC
I just watched my seltzer water spontaneously freeze
Second day this has happened. Take the bottle out of the fridge and it instantly freezes as soon as I open it. Pretty amazing to watch.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Nov 14 UTC
Experimental Opening Games - Conclusions
Our games are finished and are cancelled (two are still in limbo, but they'll be cancelled soon enough). I archived the moves in a Google Doc, so if anyone is curious, check them out. There were a number of creative and successful openings, and while it's important to note that everyone was being a bit reckless, it's not hard to figure out what kind of position one might theoretically put themselves in in a more typical scenario with some of these openings.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
14 Nov 14 UTC
Next discount-game: Far Cry 3 - Blood Dragon
Now this is on discount on Steam too!
Worth getting for the Far Cry experience, rather than the sci-fi experience?
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ssorenn (0 DX)
12 Nov 14 UTC
looking for players for a series.
i would like to play 3 games;

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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
13 Nov 14 UTC
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Please don't punish me anymore
I am so sorry.
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