Ahhh...Libtard #1 Attack Dog steps to the plate. semck gets to be team captain today. thank you for participating.

You moronic Libtards ike to bitch that there is never conversation, but you have this oh-so-predictable and nasty habit of never actually *trying* to have a conversation, you blithering idiot of a dance monkey.

I'm a libtard now? Anybody on this site who's ever voted for a Democrat would certainly be surprised to hear that.

This may come as a surprise, krellin, but -- even a pretty far right-wing conservative can find your behavior on here completely distasteful.

semck - here's a *crazy* idea....read the fucking article and *comment on it* you douchebag. All you are right now is just another fucing hypocrite, bitching about forum trolls while you DO NOTHING BUT ATTACK.

Krellin have you taken over as the new blankflag? Do you actually believe that there is an international conspiracy by the "elites", scheming to lower the sperm count? You actually think this is a sensible claim worthy of discussion?

Sorry, krellin, I read it and it isn't even worth commenting on. Most of it is total conspiracy theory bullshit.

And the irony of the sperm count lowering conspiracy is that would affect the population size as it takes sperm to produce women too.

I cna't bring myself to reply to the content.

It is such fantastic bullshit. Lack of male role models, what of the Governator? Who else could we need??

" semck - here's a *crazy* idea....read the fucking article and *comment on it* you douchebag. "

But why would I bother? You admitted to me as recently as a couple weeks ago that you post here largely to antagonize and anger for your own enjoyment. Why would I trust somebody like that to have an interesting conversation about the article? You're like the five-year-old who finds out that people get angry and upset if he kicks them in the groin, so he goes around doing it to get a reaction. There's nothing clever about it. There's nothing mature about it. There's nothing smart about it, and it proves no points, except that you're a sad little misanthrope who's angry at the world for your own shortcomings.

If I read the article, I'd most likely agree with a bunch of it, and have some bones to pick / think that it came up short in subltety. I saw the headline earlier and thought about reading it and posting it myself for discussion, but I got busy with something else. But I would have done that in order to have a hopefully interesting and provocative discussion with people who would oppose and critique (or support and bolster) the points.

There's no point trying to have a discussion with you, so I can't blame the "libtards" for not reading your article -- you'll just carry on like a cretin, hurling insults and trying to foment anger, and succeeding enough to make yourself happy. There is simply no point conversing with you. It's not what you're interested in, by your own admission.

I probably agree more with you than with your detractors about the contents of the article, but it doesn't matter.

All the football and baseball and basketball and hockey stars...

@Krellin, please take the article point by point and outline your position with regard to each one.

krellin, go away.

@Orath - Oh, it's mostly bullshit. The one thing I would probably completely agree with is the portrayal of men in modern media - particularly Prime-Time TV and children's oriented programming - as alternately blithering idiots/the foolish father who can always be tricked in to doing xyz/etc, or alternately as some sort of corrupt, broken figure/predator/etc.

Strong, masculine, positive role models in the media are very difficult to come by.

+1 for that semck. :-)

Jamie - I posted a link without an opinion - I didnt' say there is some vast conspiracy, you moron. I asked YOU to comment...but most of you are apparently blithering idiots with low IQ who's sole purpose is to attack. I find the article *mostly* ridiculous...there are a little of merit, but
1. there are conspiracy whackjobs out there that believe it
2. Idiots liek Thucy think that anyone "conservative" buys in to this bullshit
3. The relevant points in any such discussion (lack of male media role models, for example) will be buried under such a tirade of white/male-guilt complex or feminized liberalism that it will be lost


@semck - that I actually have the balls to admit that not everything I do on here is serious puts me 1000% ahead of morons like you, who apparently actually believe that everything you say is relevant.

@krellin,

I never said everything I say was serious.

But you don't just admit that "not everything [you] do on here is serious." You admit that it's deliberately designed to anger and hurt for your own enjoyment. Since you've admitted that, there is no reason why anybody should feel the least compunction for failing to engage the "substance" you pretend to present with any of your posts, and it's purely laughable that you would pretend to judge them as hypocritical or deficient intellects for doing so.

Any relevant points in the article are buried under the article's own conspiracy theory bullshit, Krellin.

I demand that you re-instate my crown as #1 libtard attack-dog, krellin.

Men that believe that there is a "war on men" are sissies.

Sorry YJ – when you and I buried the hatchet, the veil of Libnial fell from your eyes in favor of rational thought. Today, where once you were amongst the move ravenous of the loons, you are now My Old Pal YJ, with whom I can have rational conversations with opposing points of view. Plus…you’re kinda cute… :P So not only are you not #1 Libtard Attack Dog…you aren’t even a Libtard anymore.

umm, krellin... we don't have rational conversations with opposing viewpoints. We get along solely because I refuse to try :)

All of webdiplomacy is currently going through what I did months ago. They must hate you before they can love you. After that, you'll be the most popular guy on the site. Unfortunately, everybody will just say, "That's nice, krellin" to everything you post :(

How dreadfully boring that will be.

oscar, you actually have to be a masculone man to recognize the war on men to begin with....thus making you *fully* incapable of recognizing what's going on.

...or a woman that likes masculine men....in either case, you are blind to reality.

YJ - pick a topic, and we shall discuss it. I darrre you...

Point 10 is the only one that raises a legitimate concern in my mind without stretching and exaggerating the truth.

I think I'd rather not :)

I could get behind point 3 along with krellin as well.

Wow... I thought no one could possibly out do Thucy in terms of posting crazy gender victimisation claptrap, but that is pretty damned close. I salute your efforts, krellidides!

This thread is turning into something quite awesome.

/\ Don't they all? Don't they all....?

Well, I've read the article, it's a pity that some really well-argued points are buried in endless crap.

"Strong, masculine, positive role models in the media are very difficult to come by. "

Francis Underwood. I rest my case.

Redhouse -- I would make this argument -- given the general public reaction to any "men's" issues, since in 90% of all discussion men are the villains, I would actually suggest that having a few rational points buried amongst the extreme nonsense actually pulls them out and highlights them as worth discussing. "Oh, those 2 might be valid..the rest is crap" as opposed to if the two "rational" points were presented in an argument by themselves, the gut-reaction of our feminized society would be to reject it without a second thought.

Sometimes it takes extreme absurdity to highlight the rational.

"Sometimes it takes extreme absurdity to highlight the rational."

Yes, this seems to be the motivation for everything you do, but I'm fairly certain it doesn't work as well as you like to pretend it does.

"Francis Underwood" I rest my case


Oh...so you are admitting there are no positive male role models, huh? You named one obscure reference to a Netflix-Only character. Thanks.

@abge- I said *sometimes* :)

And if you think your grandiose thoughts are getting any more traction than mine, you are welcome to your opinion. I woudl assert that if you ask anyone what abge said about subject "xyz" they will say, "How the hell should I know?" as your input is buried amongst all the other pseudo-intellectual bullshit that ejects itself into the conversations when y'all get into your intellectual masturbation fights.

It was a joke, understandable to most.

don't worry, abge, I still want your grandiose thoughts.

Well thanks to krellin I definitely know more about monkeys and clowns than I cared to before. Mission accomplished?

@YJ - I never said that I don't want abge's grandiose thoughts. I'm just simply saying that if he is under the impression that his thoughts, uttered in what he believes in such an effective way, bear any more weight in people memories than anyone else's thoughts, then he's...well, he's the typical self-deluded pseudo-intellectual that infests this place who actually believes that his shit doesn't stink.

I think ocassionally abge has a unique thought - I'll grant him that. And very often he's just spews the same I'm-right-your-stupid nonsense that most people around here do.

I just happen to do it with more flair. That doesn't mean that I don't ocassionally get it right. :)

"oscar, you actually have to be a masculone man to recognize the war on men to begin with....thus making you *fully* incapable of recognizing what's going on. "

No krellin, men that think there is a war on men are sissies. They piss their pants out of fear of losing their masculinity just because some dipshit plays a wuss in some commercial or sitcom. Well, krellin, if you're sense of masculinity depends on that shit then you're not much of a men to begin with. Especially since the notion that there are no manly men in media and entertainment is just bullshit. Here's just a small list off the top of my head of TV series with manly men in them.

Breaking Bad
White Collar
Boardwalk Empire
Suits
Game of Thrones
Hell on Wheels
House of Cards
Banshee
Longmire
Ray Donovan
Person of Interest
The Walking Dead

Not to mention that in the talking heads in the media are still what? 80% men? If despite all that you are afraid of some imaginary war on men then yes I think you are a bed wetting sissy with no balls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxS-7jkKK1I&feature=kp