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13 Jan 14 UTC

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World diplomacy

Quick we need two more players for a world diplomacy fame called fast world diplomacy. http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=133113

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Forced Pauses?

Gentlemen,

I would like your opinion on a particular issue. Should the staff have the authority to pause the game?

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11 Jan 14 UTC
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"Human activity caused climate change is a myth"

"Humans don't cause climate change, its a myth, solar cycle, earth cycles blah blah blah"
http://www.jamespowell.org/

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12 Jan 14 UTC

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Turkey vs France...

Looking at some stats from webdip.

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12 Jan 14 UTC

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Building a NUC...

I am about to embark on a buying and building journey for church. They were recently donated a 40" monitor and want to set up a multimedia center in the narthex, so I am buying an Intel Next Unit of Computing to drive it. Any gotchas to look out for from you home builders?

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12 Jan 14 UTC

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Dictatorship...

.. In all it's glory! It's just brilliant and more people should see this!

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11 Jan 14 UTC

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vdiplomacy working?

Is vdiplomacy working for anyone? It appears to be down.

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11 Jan 14 UTC

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8 hour classic game - 50 points

Only 6 hours left to join!

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09 Jan 14 UTC

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A suggestion to deal with inactive players and civil disorder

As you know, having players quit games is an ongoing issue because it unbalances the games. I have a couple of potential ideas:

Ogion (3882 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

First, instead of requiring a new bet from the person taking over, let them do it for free so it is all upside. I thought the CD holiday give away was a great idea.

Second, having doomed countries walk away is a pain too, since it makes it too easy on the strong countries. Thus, for taking over countries with 1 or 2 SCs, pass the bet or half on to the person taking it over. After all, the player stepping in has nearly no chance of winning the game, but they're doing a huge service to all players still in the game.

Third, maybe block players who quit be barred from joining any new games until after the end of the game they left.

Any other ideas?

Ogion (3882 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

maybe, for that third one it won't apply if they can find a substitute to take over

Scoggle (234 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

The only problem with the entire thing is the best way to do this is to be automated but as you stated in your second reply, there are variables. Mods have stated before that they have enough on their plate without having to deal with this variable system also. If there was a way to make this idea truly automated and done by the site itself and had someone who had time to code and debug it so it worked with the website, I would love to see this implemented.

abgemacht (1076 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

VDip has a very nice reliability rating system in place that would solve many of these problems. Hopefully it will make its way here so CDs become less of a problem.

Ogion (3882 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

It should be pretty easy to automate. The value of bets already depend on SC, so just add a rule for the joining table that says if SC >3, joining bet = 0

For the other, you'd need an extra variable AllowedToJoin. When a country goes into CD, the players variable is toggled to OFF. Might be easiest to toggle it off for a fiexed period, say 5days rather than tied to the game left though

Draugnar (0 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

Actually, instead of a boolean, make it an int64 with the game id and when the game phase runs, check to see the players with that flag. If they are still in CD then keep it otherwise clear it.

Scoggle (234 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

See? This is better. Talking through it.

Theodosius (232 )
09 Jan 14 UTC

An incentive for people not to quit a game would be to have an option, when a game is created, not to allow people on who have quit in the last month, six months, or whatever.
If you quit, your pool of games available has shrunk, and probably the quality of games available.

Scoggle (234 )
10 Jan 14 UTC

That would be a good idea. Question though. Do 5 min live games count when say the game starts and you dont realize it. Cant tell you how many late night live games have 2-3 CD's at the start. The only game I have resigned on my record was a live game I missed the start of.

Ogion (3882 )
10 Jan 14 UTC

Hmm. A game is a game I guess. I'd say don't miss the start or try to recover

orathaic (1009 )
10 Jan 14 UTC

'Third, maybe block players who quit be barred from joining any new games until after the end of the game they left. '

you can prevent people from joining your games by password protecting them and then checking thei profile of anyone who wants to play before you send them the password.

Use the forum and only play with members who a reputation or get known to play well.

this has the advantage of building up a community of people on the forum who talk about diplomacy (and not merely trolls, hacks and armchair generals - with myself falling into the last category)

orathaic (1009 )
10 Jan 14 UTC

also, the forum for suggesting new features is : forum.webdiplomacy.net

also the game in inherently unbalanced, and you are supposed to use 'diplomacy' to prevent a player with an 'unfair advantage' from having an easy win. CDs just change what kind of balance you should expect.

NigeeBaby (100 )
10 Jan 14 UTC
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Chop their bollocks off ..... it's the only language these feral creatures understand

Ogion (3882 )
10 Jan 14 UTC
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Wait. This site has both forum.webdiplomacy.net (with no link from splash page) AND webdiplomacy.net/forum?

Brilliant, I must say

Draugnar (0 )
10 Jan 14 UTC

One is part of the software, the other is a dev forum hosted elsewhere. Don't be an asshat about it, especially as it is free.

BrownPaperTiger (508 )
10 Jan 14 UTC

Actually, there is a link
Help > Developer Info
So, don't be an asshat about it and rtfm

kaner406 (356 )
11 Jan 14 UTC

The Reliability Rating @ vDip works really well with the 1/2 cost buy-in for taking over countries in CD. It encourages early takeovers of CDd players, even those of weak (soon to be doomed) countries.

kaner406 (356 )
11 Jan 14 UTC

The only problem is that we occasionally get players who have CDd in so many games (for whatever reason) and have ended up with 0-RR, so the Mods need to contacted to elevate these players (if they decide to return) back to about 10+ RR so that they can join CDd games to get the RR back up again.

jmo1121109 (3812 )
11 Jan 14 UTC
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@Kaner, I've already asked Kestas to implement them, and it's on his list. I'm more then willing to deal with that slight increase in mod work to cut down on NMR's and CD's.

kaner406 (356 )
11 Jan 14 UTC

As I said, it's only a very occasional problem. But the benefits of the RR system outweigh this. And the 1/2 cost buy-in for taking over CDd countries fits nicely into this.

Ogion (3882 )
11 Jan 14 UTC

I want to thank you all for the discussion. I'll start a thread over in forum also (yes, being an asshat is unwarranted!)

VirtualBob (192 )
11 Jan 14 UTC

I think the best approach to preventing CD's (or penalizing those who CD) would be to redirect all the posts from krellin, putin and any religious 'discussion' (especially the daily bible verse) to the offender's email address.

ssorenn (0 )
11 Jan 14 UTC

That's awesome

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10 Jan 14 UTC

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Replacement Needed for the Masters

For substitution in ongoing games. The Sub is urgently needed, and please, top 100 GR is much preferred.

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08 Jan 14 UTC

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Do anyone else's menus look different?

Like, the chat box, the drop down selections for move and territories, and the forum boxes and stuff. All looks different.

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09 Jan 14 UTC

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Crazy College Professors

In this thread, tell stories about some of your quirkiest college professors (or high school teachers, if you did not go to college)

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10 Jan 14 UTC

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Grand Rapids/Michigan

Are there any players from Grand Rapids or Michigan on here?

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11 Jan 14 UTC

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sitter needed:

for 1 game, please PM me for details.
Thanks in advance!

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08 Jan 14 UTC
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I hate my generation

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/five-economic-reforms-millennials-should-be-fighting-for-20140103

Nonsense, root and branch

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Questions for Students/Teachers

I'll be teaching again this Spring, but since it's not my full-time job, I wanted to ask a couple questions to see what people thought. Thanks!

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08 Jan 14 UTC

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Texas Players?

Anyone living in Texas?

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10 Jan 14 UTC

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Interesting Global Warming Cartoon

https://medium.com/the-nib/2b117d37f768

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10 Jan 14 UTC

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Bug, or Working as Intended?

I had the retreats phase open for a game, and was clicking through the years, and when I fast-forwarded back to present I saw the retreat order because the retreat had been processed right then. It was humorous to see a page with !! for a retreat order under a map with the order shown.

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09 Jan 14 UTC

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Wind turbines

Does anyone have any knowledge on how the blades of a wind turbine turns the genorator and how they are connected to the generator? Any knowledge on this subject would be appreciated. And please don't give me a answer that you got from wiki. Thanks.

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10 Jan 14 UTC

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Deadspin Hall of Fame Vote

Dear baseball fans: fuck you because we know better than you. Sincerely, BHOF.

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"Is belief in God rational?" The Great Debate #1

semck83 representing Christian theism and President Eden representing atheism. Full debate transcript inside!

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09 Jan 14 UTC
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requesting the country that you want to play

its obvious that everyone here loves to play the game --is there a way that when games could get started you could pick the country you want to play and wait for enough people to join that are willing to play the other countries.

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09 Jan 14 UTC

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Atheists in the east

How many are there? Relatively more or less than here? Although all the east is fine, I'm especially talking about the countries that are considered to be either hinduistic (not sure if that's how you spell it in English) or buddhistic (again not sure). Think India and the like. Not quite the Middle-East.

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09 Jan 14 UTC

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I Gave Away This Game...

What do you think..? gameID=133281

I argue that France' intention was clearly to stab me eventually and being annoyed with his consistent army positions, after making some pretty big blunders, I chose to punish him for it, what's your opinion on this?

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09 Jan 14 UTC

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Email Hasbro! Let's get Diplomacy for Wii U

I don't want to engage in any arguments about consoles, but I have a Wii U and Diplomacy would be absolutely perfect for the system, for both face to face and online games. I have gone to Hasbro's website and emailed them a request to look into developing a Diplomacy game for the Wii U. It won't take but 10 minutes to do, so let's see if we could make some headway.

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08 Jan 14 UTC

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I need your feedback ......

I'd just like ti run an idea up the flagpole and see if you salute it ...... would people be up for playing high-stakes games if they could actually purchase webdip points rather than have to wait for years until they were good enough to earn them through playing ??

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Join this game?

Come on, ya dogs! I'm rusty, surely someone would enjoy trying to beat me!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=133213

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09 Jan 14 UTC

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America Going to Pot? O'Reilly vs. Stewart

http://screen.yahoo.com/comedy-central/burn-notice-bill-oreilly-marijuana-050000837.html
1. I...I have to let John Stewart's first few words speak for me. Every. Single. Word. That whole first clip where he talks before the 2nd O'Reilly clip...yeah. THIS is why you're King of the Secular Show-Biz Jews, pal! ;)
2. So, yeah, um, pot...I can't ever do it (not with my medication) but I'm curious...where does everyone fall on legalization?

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A glossary for newbies?

Is there a glossary for Newbies somewhere? If not, could we start one?
What are WTA, Full Press, Gunboat, CD (a verb?), GR?
Any others to add?

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