Wow ghug I didn't even vote for you and you go all OMGUS on me. All I'm saying is that I think it's more likely that DL is scum than LI because I don't think a scum LI would say what he did about not needing evidence in his case against DL. Because I see these issues (the scuminess of DL and LI) as linked, I'm trying to reduce the complexity of the issue and get everyone who sees something suspicious to vote for the candidate that is more likely (of the two of them) to be scum. Now obviously others will have different opinions and I respect that. I just offered my opinion and the reasoning behind it. If you agree with me great, and if not then do as you please.

And ghug thanks for the satisfactory explanation. Now it would be great if LI and DL would answer their questions.

I was asked
"Why would you encourage others to vote for someone before voting for that someone yourself?"
I said that I think DL is more likely to be scum than LI. That means that if I were inclined to vote for one of them (as many of our fellow players have), I would choose DL. That does not mean that I believe DL is scum however. Please understand the difference. I do think he is suspicious, so after looking at things more closely I did end up voting for him.

It's not a game unless ghug says I'm useless or scummy.

It's a bit suspicious that ghug and uclabb are being so friendly. Scumbuddies for sure.

So I was thinking a bit about the change in roles we have this game. We've broken off a bit from our standard cop-doc-vig town roles, and also the mafia has a more unique set up now too. I'd argue that the town is pretty weak now, but it's not necessarily weak if played right.

Yoda is a VERY strong role. Night 1, I think, he should pick his three people based on who his strongest town reads are. If Yoda gets 3 confirmed town members by not sensing the dark side, he has cleared a large bloc of the town. That reveal, even on day 2, would be huge. If he goes further into Day 3, 4, etc... it's very good for us.

If he senses the dark side, he has a 1/3 or better chance of finding scum, which is not that bad.

Basically, I predict this game will end based on how well our Yoda performs.

Sadly Yoda's job is a lot harder with Annikan and Darth Sidious.
But yeah I totally agree that Yoda should try to clear some townies. That is most helpful for later when Yoda can use cleared townies to do an individual scan on one suspect.
If Yoda is reading this, I volunteer to be scanned.

@Chaqa, cool story bro.

@Brankl, you asked me one question, but it's cute that you think it's OMGUS. Trying to undermine my points with bullshit buzz words, are we?

Oh man, you volunteer to be scanned? I don't even have to do anything. You just keep digging.

Wait what's wrong with volunteering to be scanned? And if anyone is still upset about my "lurking" please take a look at the sign-up thread in which I specifically mentioned (multiple times) that I would be less active initially because I was busy yesterday.

It's scummy. You shouldn't be trying to influence the cop's scans directly, and wanting to be scanned shows selfishness not indicative of town.

Nobody cares about your lurking anymore. Nobody is talking about your lurking except for you. Why are you so concerned with your image?

Seriously people, this is terrible. Hop aboard the Brankl train. CHOO CHOO!

You're right I shouldn't be so concerned about my image. But once again, I should say that this started long before I received my role PM. And I've already said that the cop can choose to listen to me or to ignore me, but I'm going to suggest what I think might work because I have an opinion and I'm trying to win this game.

You received your role PM after the game started? I'm fairly sure that's not true.

When we talk about game mechanics like PRs and such we start meaningful conversations that help the town get more information. At this point townies are pretty clueless, but the more we talk the more we learn about our fellow players. Also talking about things like this allows us to get information for later when we know more and can go back through the posts looking for scum tells. I understand that this opinion of yours may be independent of your role in the game, but I would disagree with it on the grounds that it prevents, not encourages, meaningful discussion.

Is that a scum slip or just a Freudian slip?

I posted letting everyone know that I would be quiet the first day well before I received my PM and the game started. Remember, this is in the sign-up thread

Why are you so concerned by this? Nobody else cares. The fact that you seem so concerned with making it clear you weren't lurking is really fucking scummy. You've told us. We get it. Move on.

And ghug do you really think Mafia is going to volunteer to be scanned at this point in the game? If the scan comes back dirty I know what I'm risking, especially since Yoda will (hopefully) choose town reads to scan. So if the scan detects traces of the dark side, I would expect to feel some (intense) pressure afterwards. Now Yoda might not be able to reveal his findings right away, but I'm pretty sure that information matters.

@Brankl: I find it slightly scummy that you'd volunteer to be scanned when also stating that Darth sidipus can't be scanned. Is that a double bluff? Why do you particularly want to be scanned?

@wjessop
That's a good point I didn't consider that. I don't know how to respond except to say that I made a mistake on that one. Yoda can do whatever he damn well pleases, but hopefully this leads to better conversations in the future.

And I guess even finding Darth Sidious (even if Yoda doesn't know it) will help Yoda find scum later using the technique I mentioned. If Yoda knows two people will scan clean (whether or not they are Mafia), he can easily figure out if a third person is or isn't one of the other Mafia members.

I don't particularly want to be scanned, but I would love for Yoda to get a clean scan and I know that unless I am Anakin I will be able to help Yoda do so

Brankl, you just keep digging yourself a deeper hole. :/

Ghug is gonna crucify you. If he weren't scum, I'd hop on this vote.

"Do you really think Mafia is going to volunteer to be scanned at this point?"

This sort of WIFOM is why trying to influence the scans is so bad, Brankl.

How are we supposed to help Yoda get a clean scan?

By acting townie, and hopefully by lynching a mafia.

@y2k et al: I'm surprised there was no point announcing the end of the very first day...

*no post announcing

@HR still waiting on answers from my questions from the previous page.