@Jesus
The disbanding or not of Armenia is not the big deal. It is the wasted season. Turkey is now racing Italy for spoils, and every move counts.

@fiedler, though i'm not one of them, and thus it doesn't make a difference to me, clicking ready is not consider a requirement. If people choose to play a slow game then they can expect to play out every phase, that's what one signs up for...

also regarding the cancel. I have had a pm from russia on the matter. And losing or not the claim that austrian mishaps have 'ruined the game' will taint any victory. Still it is up to the players to vote unanimously for a cancel if they want one.

i take it from your words there is a 6 chances in 7 that you're one of the players (where each chance is 1/35963 :p )

@orathaic - I agree with you that players can click ready or not, however, i think if we play again - bearing in mind this is a spectator edition - it would be good if a mod could ensure all orders are readied once a player signs in particularly disbands and builds just to keep the spectators interested.

Okay thanks for the lecture. In future I'll be sure not to express any opinions or ask politely for players to click ready if they can.
Btw, I'm going overseas on the 17th, so will probably need a sitter.
Probability I am one of the players = 1 :)

hey, on the forum we're allowed express our feelings openly and our opinions, that is mine. And I don't deny being opinionated. You're entitled to disagree with me. I'm not infallible. I'm not even sure if that is how you spell infallible...

bump

nothing to report.

pro-italian disband from austria, will it be a mistake of will italy take the bait and hit turkey now.

turkey continues to push russia while german looks free to finish his invasion, though i only question the abandoning of baltic sea in favour of sweden. A full invasion of russia is much easier with a convoy through baltic (or through GoB is there is an army in sweden to convoy to liv....)

france continues predictably north with nothing from england to stop him, the german moves seem to indicate he is willing to work with france now and forgoe the russian invasion for the moment.

Italy's and germany's decisions are key here.

france and tureky are committed.

I think austria just wantd to get vie back at the expense of tri which is all ge could really do.

Turk should take rum with BS, IMHO?

Looks like france and germany have agreed that F takes eng while ger takes on russia

If so that is good gunboat play as people don't have to guess so many moves.

agree with orathic that Italy's decisions are now key

is that 'IMHO?' you questioning your own opinion here? :p

He is a maniac after all...

I think Russia's disband was a good choice, he wanted to make it clear to England that he was not a threat, although it isn't looking too good for him especially with Austria now working against him.

I always question my own opinions, if that makes me a maniac then guilty as charged.

Wll done Ialy, we will now see how brave turkey is? I anticipated alb-gre with Ion support and tri-ser; will turkey try ser-gre with aeg support to get a bounce? Will Italy realise this and slip Ion-Eastern med and play tri-serbia anyway? I'm guessing Italy has vacated vie to build a relationship with Austria who by the way made an excellent support of a german unit.

A patient france will reap rewards

I think you missed the party where Italy also took Trieste. I think Italy was trying to bounce Tyrolia...

@kingdroid, italy attacked the old austria and now wishes to make amends with the new austria - that's how i read it anyway

France went on well with the plan, but England is doing good defense. Germany managed to keep his borders safe while he gets a piece of the dismantling Russia, of which even Austria seems to want a bit. Turkey keeps his steady northern progress while Italy seems to try to keep options open with both what's left of Austria and a strong Turkey as potential targets.

I think Austria is trying to signal that he just wants to survive. Should he go to Vienna in the fall?

Austria definitely needs to take Vie this turn.

france has the two convoy routes to wales, i'd like to see brest to wales (via MAO, Irish sea and supported by EC) how ever no matter what England can cut support for the move to wales... will definitely be an interesting move.

It seems more people are voting for a cancel. If it goes through, we really should try this again with a password.

I don't see why they would vote Cancel...

Why did the new Austria help Germany instead of defending his own territory. Very disappointing.

He's trying to make friends. In addition, moving Galcia -> Vienna would not have done anything to save trieste, and he is right to assume that Vienna was not going to be moving.

Germany can't help him anyway, and he won't.

Agreed if this game is cancel we should try again with a password; how do players feel about getting a mod to force retreats/builds as soon as players log in to kep the game moving and some pace for the onlookers?

Interesting phase of the game now, 4 countries are looking good but it's hard to see how eng, austria and russia will survive much longer. The interesting thing now is what will Italy do? I think it could take Gre and Vie next year - it still has good NAPs in place with germany and france who have other theatres to occupy their minds. Will this concern turkey, and if so what can he do to stop a italian invasion?

Turkey will be the first to vote draw once Eng, Russia and Austria are deceased.

The question here, to me at least, is whether Russia will make a "screw you Turkey" disband of St. Petersburg. I probably would