That makes you a Nazi too. You clever bastard you :-)

No. Hitler loved dogs, but that doesn't make dog lovers Nazis.

You're just a Nazi. A hateful, hateful Nazi.

Hitler killed his dogs, i don´t think a dog lover would do that. If you disagree on that i call you a Nazi, a hateful, hateful, hatful Nazi :-(

Typical Nazi ad hominem attack. You Germans are all the same. Go to hell.

Did a german soldier rape your grandmother? I don´t understand your strange attiutude towards me...

Oh, my...

Now Invictus and Miro are slinging around Nazi accusations and Obama-talk...high ho, high ho, a-flaming we will go...

I hate the way you, an ignorant little Eurotrash child, has the audacity to say such awful things about the American response to 9/11. You people over on the Dying Continent lead the lives you do because of American sacrifices 60 years ago and the guarantees of military protection the United States provides to the present day.

Who are you? You're nothing. You're wrong. You're worthless. My calling you a Nazi was a bit of meta-flaming on my part, to aggravate you in a way you have done to others. Get your head out of your ass or shut up you retard.

"Who are you? You're nothing. You're wrong. You're worthless."

- These are the words of a Nazi to a Jew, your words. I am glad to see your true charakter revealed...

You don´t even know a bit what the Nazis have done to my family, now treating me like the Nazis treated my family and simultaniously calling me a Nazi is surreal, very surreal...

Oh come on Miro. You're really comparing how the Nazis treated people to what Invictus is doing? That's just weak.

No that is the way it started, it is weak to insult people because of having no arguments.

Invictus, don't call Miro a Nazi--it's not anyone's time.

Miro...Miro, you've taken a 9/11 rememberence thread and turned it first into a froum for your, right or wrong riantings on the US' foriegn policy, slandered America in general, utterly shown a lack of compassion or even care for the fact fellow human beings (I'd ASSUME "fellw" though the way you act...) DIED that day and we were trying to remember him, and now you're slinging around more and more hate with your usual dosage of idiocy and irritation.

What Nazis did to your family is irrelevant--I'm a JEW, my family came from Austria, Germany, Poland and Russia, so I think I'm qualified just a bit to pull the "family suffered" card, too.

But this isn't about Nazis.
Not about Jews.
Not about Bush.
Not about Obama.
Not about me.
Most certainly not about you.

This is about 3,000 people who died either innocently going to work or acting as heroes trying to save those people when zealots turned planes into missiles and optimism into tears and steel and concrete to rubble...and how we still remember and honor those vicitms and the heroes who tried to save them.

And if you can't get behind that, I don't care at this point, even more unfeeling than me (and sometimes I'm astounded I can still carry a pulse I've so little heart.)

But I will NOT tolerate you turning this into your own private rant session and I CERTAINLY won't tolerate you doing so at the expense of those lives and those memories; a debat about the meaning of life is one thing, this is a memorarium, and NO ONE should go to a memorial service and shout how wrong the deceased, your defenseless victims are.



Get out of this NOW, Miro, not another word on Nazis or slandering the vicitms or otherwise troilling and flaming this thread, or I'll report you for trolling and flaming and if I have to I'll get a mod on here to stop this, again, a debate is one thing, but pulling this sort of a stunt at a memorium where people have been somber and actually pour out their feelings is no place for this and your slander WILL NOT BE PERMITTED!

It is the third time on this board this happend. I see how your internet culture in america works. Haveing another opinion leads directly to aggression and insulting. That is too strange for me, especially because i admire american art, music and literature. But the people? I don´t know. Here i am confronted with xenophobic and homophobic threads, i am not used to that as a german such a specific forum. Well it is good that way, so i don´t miss this site. Bye

Good riddance.

"so I think I'm qualified just a bit to pull the "family suffered"

Your family came to america in the 19th century, selfabsorbed child.

"Get out of this NOW, Miro"

Well because of that i stay.

Strange, obiwan is suffering on a memory loss. To be called a Nazi should be very similar to you isn´t it?

But this isn't about Nazis.
"Not about Jews.
Not about Bush.
Not about Obama.
Not about me.
Most certainly not about you."

I know that, but several people don´t.

"But I will NOT tolerate you turning this into your own private rant session and I CERTAINLY won't tolerate you doing so at the expense of those lives and those memories."

You are overestimating your importance, this is just a thread in a forum and you are just a student with to much time...nothing special.

I invoke Goodwin's Law on this thread. It is officially over

"Get out of this NOW, Miro, not another word on Nazis or slandering the vicitms or otherwise troilling and flaming this thread"

Read the thread to address your hypocracy to the right ones :-)

thank god it´s over

@Obiwan +3000+ (one in memoriam for each victim of 9/11). I loved your "what this is about" paragraph. Well written my friend. Well written.

@Miro - Like it or not, this is a private site owned by Kestas and run by the Mods. Some of us have their ear on some things and they have the liberty to ban anyone for any reason. They do practice discretion and sound judgement, but they will protect the community over the individual. Just ask The_Master_Warrior aka Diplofool. You are following closely in his footsteps.

I guess Invictus is following him :-)

"Just ask The_Master_Warrior aka Diplofool."

Right, that worked well...

He remained banned for like six months and is on probation. You'll note he doesn't create 20 or 30 inane threads a day anymore.

So what you you contact a mod to bann me, while i already said i am done with this site?
Good plan...

I think that fits very well into your debating culture :-)

But Draug, those threads were so much fun! ; )

@Obi - Beautifully said. 9/11 is so much more than anyone of us. We should remember how that single event pulled humanity together for at least a little while. For a day, there were no Americans, Mexicans, Germans, French, Austrians, Russians, Chinese, Egyptians, Japanese, or any other nationality. There were Humans. Humans who were concerned about each other and grieved with each other. We should all remember that day and realize that all the things we argue about and disagree are insignificant compared to the humanity we share. RIP Heroes and Victims. You will not be forgotten, and hopefully, we learn a little about humanity from your sacrifices.

I wish all members of this forum could do so.