Haha, 1/4 of that sheepishness is you.

Ah, It was only a matter of time until some Big Government Statists referred to Karl Marx is a psuedo religious way as if his words rivaled those of holy scripture.

See the Gulag's of the Soviet Union and the massacres of Mao's cultural revolution for a resounding rebuttal of the concentration of power wrought by Mark's foolishness.

That is exactly the morality of the market, power is diluted.
The exact immorality of government is its monopoly powers and its concentration of power.

Please offer a logical argument that isn't demolished by reality.

I don't know Mark or his foolishness, is that a friend of yours?

No actually Gramalaj I was raised never to submit to government dependence by my mother in an impoverished one-parent family.
I saw others around me destroy their lives in dependence.
I was taught that no one owes you a damn thing and that hard work, education, and frugality were the keys to success.
I learned along the way what sheep don't know.
Life is not a zero sum game. My success doesn't came at your expense.
In fact the complete opposite is true.
My success can bring you success.
When I created a business with a partner we created jobs.
That's how the market works, but sheep are dependent on the crumbs from Big Government and willing to do anything and everything to defend those crumbs-that's the immorality of Big Government the corrupting dependence it inflicts.

Mark, Marx, just another big fool with a herd of sheep behind his disproven theories.

"No actually Tamalej I don't care what you say but here is a story about myself. Does it tie into my point? Sure, I can do that."

I know, all those Marks and their sheep herd disguises are so tricky! You think they sheep until they all rise up, lol.

Some muted sheep chime in. The replies are up to 96.
It never ceases to amaze me how someone who knows they are muted hammers away.
They ridicule my argument, but they can't ignore them?
What a contradiction. If my arguments are totally without merit, infantile, erroneous, laughable or whatever symbolism is used then no one with intellect will be fooled by them so they can be completely ignored in safety.
Alas the Big Government Sheep know the truth and flail away in a vacuum, posting away without being heard.
It is satsifying to watch the reply number grow ten at a time and only see half of them.

TC, you are utterly incapable of having a discussion on some reasonable level without immediately escalating it to some unnecessary plane.

First. A quote from you. Corrected where necessary.
"I see you want to change the focus of the thread from "the [government]" to the [acts] of one [government], [The Nazis].
A characteristic of a failed argument on your part."

Secondly, I will clarify my question for you.
Big and risky projects (often) choose their engineering limits using probabilistic risk assessment. This can be done by choosing the risk to be to either your pocket book or to human life. Often, they are one and the same. However, there are cases where it makes more financial sense (at the time at least) to build riskier projects (such was the case at Fukushima). I would like regulators to take those decision making powers out of the hands of the accountants.

Sheep don't rise up. Sheep gang up in classic historical examples.
The sheep are ganging up in Syria right now to uphold the power of the state that made them dependent sheep in the first place.
Geez Gramilaj. Do you have a question mark tattooed on your forehead for clueless?

Yonni, I'm utterly incapable of entertaining foolish fantasy.

"My success doesn't came at your expense." - YES IT DOES. Well not my expense specifically. But one person's success comes at the expense of others. That is exactly the point.

The immorality of government is the horrific actions that result from its monopoly on power and its absolute corruption by that monopoly power.
Big Government advocates seem to think that a specific government can be given power it and won't abuse it.
Those same Big Government advocates say that power corrupts the market.
It can be trusted in government but not in the market were power is massively diluted.
Like I said I'm utterly incapable of tolerating foolish fantasy portrayed as anything other than what it is.

"Yonni, I am totally capable of spending hours in the middle of my highly productive, self directed, hard working, and frugally spent work day to milk the sheep"

Fukushima was government inspected, permitted, and approved, yet when a natural disaster causes a catastrophe its suddenly the market.
Get real. Why offer such nonsense.

"Please offer a logical argument that isn't demolished by reality. "

I've tried. You completely ignored them.

And you're still arguing between two things that aren't parallel, the actions of parties historically and in the present doesn't compare to the market system. But should instead be compared to the actions of companies past and present.

Stop making straw man arguments. You keep asserting what it is that your opponents believe. How the hell do you know what I, or others, believe? Why not actually shut up about sheep and actually listen to what your opponents are saying. They can tell you what they believe much better than you can, you smug, arrogant douchebag..

Yeah, the government fucked up on that one. But the answer isn't less regulation - it's more.
We'd be seeing far more disasters like it if regulations were more relaxed.

Let's talk about Fukashima getting built
Market forces built Fukashima? Hardly.
Fukashima received government protection every step of the way.
Tell me a nuclear plant that will be built anywhere that it doesn't have government grant it a share of a regulated market?
That's what you get when you regulate the market on electricity. You get big companies that receive favors from the government monopoly for a regulated, guaranteed share of customers.
That's not a free market. You wouldn't have giant nuclear plants built by the free market.
You would have smaller ones built because they would have to compete with other types of suppliers.
I guess the reason that Big Government Statists can't argue logically against the market is that they are ignorant of the market.
If the were aware of the market they wouldn't be dependent sheep willing to settle for crumbs from the government monopoly.

110 replies, the muted sheep are still stampeding.

No Yonni, that answer is more information to you and I so we can make decisions.
I don't need a government regulatory to tell me something is okay.
I want to see the same documents the regulator saw so I can make up my own mind.
Caveat Emptor.

Such a typical position of a sheep. Their self-confidence is non-existent and they have some blind faith that some government bureaucrat can do something better than they could do for themselves with the same information.
How sad.

Smaller ones hardly make economic sense. That's why they keep getting bigger and bigger. And, you're right, we'd probably just have coal plants everywhere if it were left to the free market.

"I want to see the same documents the regulator saw so I can make up my own mind."
Never met anyone as conceited as yourself. How do you claim to be an expert on everything? You do not have the time and background of hundreds of trained professionals that pour over the documents and set the regulations. I do not trust you to skim over the thousands of papers written on nuclear safety protocol with the time you have between posting on internet forums.

Market forces built Fukashima? Hardly.
Market forces build the national infrastructure that the free market relies on? Hardly.

Again Yonni, you exhibit an ignorance of the market.
Why would the plants be smaller, because you can't bring together the massive capital needed to build a four reactor plant, like Fukashima, unless investors know they will be granted a government guaranteed share of the electrical market at a regulated rate.
If you remove the government guarantees of market share and regulated rates and substitute competitive market share and competitive rate competition then investment in a huge nuclear plant becomes less attractive compared to alternative investments in a coal fired plant.
What you Big Government advocates don't understand is how the corrosive, monopoly power of government destroys the market.

Nuclear plants and coal plants both have their downsides Yonni.
There is no "perfection", but only a fool would think there was.
The market takes the collected wisdom of everyone as decides which is better, coal or nuclear.
Government empowers a select group of elites to make the same decisions.
Big Government sheep have faith in the wisdom of "so-called elites."
Self-confident individuals realize that no one can make decisions better than themselves and tens of millions of other self-confident individuals.

Still some muted sheep out there posting away.

Economy doesn't exist without government.

Has it occurred to you Tettleton that the reason the number of posts keeps increasing is because every time you post you'll make like 4 or 5 posts in a row?