"ROTFLMFAO....... "
^^^ Something I do every time I see one of Mapleleaf's Brainless, Absurd, Asinine comments on the forum... Do you have nothing better to do than make an obnoxious ass of yourself? It is truly sad when people cant post anything without you posting insults that make absolutely no sense and hold no water... so in simple terms for you Maple, your a complete moron.

Putin33 and mapleleaf are making similar points, although as usual Putin33 is making it strongly and intelligently while mapleleaf is being a putz. If only you weren't a Soviet apologist, Putters.

obiwanobiwan, you waste your time by writing these posts full of obscure references and tangents. Your posts reek of the Post Modern wishy-washy analysis that allowed be to an A in AP English my senior year of high school despite not having read a book after October. I hate to agree with mapleleaf, but if you want to discuss issues with people here the best thing to do is not write some tome full of obscure references to philosophers and Shakespeare plays, but rather short, to the point posts that say what they mean to say.

Like this one.

@mapleleaf:

Actually, I'm glad you laughed in my proverbial face and said I have no talent...

With the YOUR track record of falsity and your statements being so brainless and generally incorrect, it gives me all the more reason to hope that, once again, you play the fool and are dead wrong.

Thanks, I owe you one!

@Putin33:

Well, I probably WILL become a professor of Englush, just because I need a job that can support me and has medical benefits, but until that tiome I'll hope against hope I never have to teach, I don't think I'd be a good teacher because honestly I don't know how most of my previosu teachers and even some professors handled it--if I'm going to take two hours or whatever out of my day to talk to you about something, you'd better be 1. Passionate about the subject, too and 2. Actually TALK BACK TO ME and PARTICIPATE. That's probably the one thing I DO like about my community college, we DO have a good English dept. and at least competent English majors who've at least read a book and can and do put forth their own ideas...I still get the best essay grades and generally I'm one of the more prominent and frequent debateers and speakers in the class, but most everyone has something, at least one author or one genre or sub-genre of literature or philosophy that they're REALLY good with...our professor gives us all nicknames accordingly:

We have a "Josef Conrad," a "Jane Austen," "The Latino Ladies' Row," (aptly named) a Marxist, a couple strong feminists...

I get a play on "Hamlet," and if you don't know why you've never read a psot of mine--and are thust the luckiest person on the forums. :p

But yeah, I WILL contribute to English that way, but I also feel that need and drive to try and go as far as I can with my dream and to help further that, and so succeed or fail, I'll give it a try, and damn the torpedoes and slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and Maple Leafs fans with no lives except to troll one particular person on one particular website! :)

@Invictus:

I've already said I reference those writers and philosophers as a form of shorthand to make my posts SHORTER than they normally would be, they'd be even LONGER if I had to set it up in its entirety. After all, what's quicker--giving my definition of greatness and clarifiying that perfectly and then giving a crystal-clear description of what a great figure is like...

Or simply to call them "a Mozart?" We generally associate figures of such prominence and even sometimes reverence as Mozart and Shakespeare and *insert political figure you like here because obiwanobiwan is NOT opening that can of worms by lsiting one he admires* and Einstein, so when I say "a Mozart" it becomes a sort of sub-conscious shorthand for "great figure/greatness."

butterhead posted, "....YOUR(emphasis mine) a complete moron."
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Once again, my critics flaunt their education.

Also:

1. AGAIN, I'm just chucking ideas against the wall here, I don't polish these things, these are my rawest forms of ideas, and people naturally express their ideas through that which they know best--and the thing or things I know best are figures and works of literature and philosophy...that and MLB, NFL and NHL history and stats, but somehow a story about the 1965 New York Mets season or how many yards Eric dickerson ran for in his career or who scored the winning gaol of the 1986 Stanley Cup Finals doesn't seem as applicable in this sort of a discussion as "a Mozart" as a shorthand for "greatness" and referencing "conscience doth make cowards of us all" from "Hamlet" (3.1, the "To be or not to be" monologue) in a discussion about morality and ethics...or just plain Shakespeare or Kant or Steinbeck themselves.

2. When did we go from "fun part-Trek part ethics debate" to "debate on everything about obiwanobiwan's posting style and format?" xD

Get used to it, blabber-fingers.

Once again, mapleleaf flaunts the fact he has nothing better to do than to criticize and mock all others but himself...

And I though *I* had too much time on my hands this vacation...

pardon me sir Maple Leaf, You're... better?? Sorry, but when people really irritate me, I tend to forget my proper grammar... you know, we teenagers do that sometimes... but still, even if I didn't know the difference between your and you're, my IQ is still probably higher than yours... how long did it take you to grammar check my post to try to find something to make me look stupid so you could talk crap to me?? probably the good 45 minutes between our posts... but I stand by my statement... You sir, are a complete moron.

and Obiwan, just saying, you do have a bit too much time on your hands... no offense...

butterhead(how apropos) posted, ..."even if I didn't know the difference between your and you're, my IQ is still probably higher than yours..."
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Keep telling yourself that.

lol.

lol, lol, lol, for someone who is SOOOOOOO grammatically correct, you sure do tend to use non-real words a lot...
"mapleleaf posted " ROTFLMFAO' and "lol"
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I believe the correct terms would be Rolling on the floor laughing my F***ing ass off... and Laugh out loud...
Just proves that you are an Ignoramus.

Yes, i do--but it's vacation, so I'm entitled. :)

Just because I love to poke fun, and right now I'm too good of a target for me to pass up (did that make sense, grammatically? Don't care, I don't have to worry about correct grammar for another couple weeks) here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47uR3sQC7lc

For all that hate obiwan, there you are, make the connection...
For any obiwan fans...1. WHY??? and 2. It IS funny...WAY overdone, that, but funny...

But THAT, my friends, is why I may make this my main thing night and day, English and philosophy, but I will NEVER try to actually get into a school based on philosophical bullshit (all that was missing was for HIM, of all people, to make a Nietzsche reference...or Heidegger...or to point out how anal and banal mapleleaf is, his idiocy stretches across time and space, after all...)

Using widely-accepted acronyms on an Internet forum =/= misusing a similarly-spelled pronoun/contraction the difference between which is emphasized in most English-speaking schools' English classes in elementary/primary school, my good man.

You have to laugh at yourself--or else you wind up a shut in who still thinks Toronto has a shot at the Cup this year and spams the Internet...

Congratulations, obiwanobiwan.

Your most succinct post, and ALL because of me.

You're welcome.

so in other words, you have to laugh at yourself, or you end up like Mapleleaf? good thing I laugh at myself daily...

Thank God the fucking douche has a new target.

your welcome Draug. always happy to be of service.

I'll give you an even more succinct, direct, non-philosophical post, mapleleaf:

You're a sad and sorry ass who doesn't need to laugh at himself, as he already had plenty of people to do that for him--and it's really laughing at a tragedy, namely, that mankind still produces such duds.

Oh: And Shakespeare Nietzsche Steinbeck Poe Kant Heidegger Marlowe Milton Kierkegaard...

And something about the will to power--with a side of fries.

Canada hasn't been relevant since the Battle of the Somme and the Feuilles d'Érables haven't been relevant since at least that long.

"Clearly The Federation is the closest to an ideal society, with a democratic government based on protecting individual and group rights. "

I'd like to point out that the federation isn't a democracy: http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Democracy

Or at least, while it is implied that the federation is a democracy it is never explicitly dealt with. In fact the majority of star trek is set within the militaristic star fleet, which definitely is NOT a democracy.

You do get a lot of talk about how Bajor is run, and some about Cardassia when the dissidents take over (ie before the klingons invade and they join the dominion, but after the obsidian order is destroyed) but we never see much about 'Federation Democracy' at least no practical problems are ever found... (well except when martial law in implemented on earth to protect against changelings...)

"going into a situation KNOWING that there is quite probably no chance of success, resigned to that fact, but still making the attempt and believing that the impossible can be done...even if it can't be done"

like coming back from your last SC (and it being an army in tunis)

@Maple, you said: "butterhead posted, "....YOUR(emphasis mine) a complete moron."
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Once again, my critics flaunt their education."

Well done maple, pedantry has once more been honoured to protect you from those people who type like the speak - as chance would have it, i just came across a language/alphabet which specifically seeks to unit phoentic speech and spelling - i'd just like to note, they had to create an entirely new set of symbols because people like you would ridicule them for spelling things wrong.(see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian )

I guess the Noah Webster's spelling reform was a mistake aswell...

@butterhead+obi: pleaase don't feed the troll.

(not to claim i haven't berated the idiot, but i at least try to keep the conversation going... and not engage him - though i freely admit to having gone off topic talking to someone else which felt a little like trolling last night. For that i apologise to all)

Ok, nothign to see here, carry on.

obi-illiterate posted, "...(not to claim i haven't berated the idiot, but i at least try to keep the conversation going... and not engage him - though i freely admit to having gone off topic talking to someone else which felt a little like trolling last night. For that i apologise to all)

Ok, nothign to see here, carry on."
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With corrections...

(not to claim that I haven't berated the idiot but I, at least, try to keep the conversation going... and not engage him - though I freely admit to having gone off topic, talking to someone else who felt a little like trolling last night. For that I apologize to all)

Ok, nothing to see here, carry on.
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I'm curious.

How many of your four English classes are you failing?
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obi-narcissist also posted, "...Well, I probably WILL become a professor of Englush"

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Yes you probably will, obi.

Keep tossing me the soft lobs, and I'll keep knocking them out of the park.

i'm ora, not obi...

and you have demonstrated a great ability to read and spell, but no understanding or conversing. I htink you may be a bot....

also this:
"though I freely admit to having gone off topic, talking to someone else who felt a little like trolling last night. "
- is wrong.

What i meant was:
"though i freely admit to having gone off topic and talked to someone else, in a way which felt a little like trolling, last night. . "

Sorry ora.

The two of you are becoming interchangeable.

I am truly sorry.

Well, mapleleaf, if ora and I ARE becoming truly interchangeable, and you attack him as if he were me, I'll take that apology...

And that's all I'll take or give, because this is now no better than talking to Miro Klose--actually, I think that'd be a fun conversation, mapleleaf and Miro Klose, the Irritating Force meeting the Illogical Object!

Anyway...obiwanobiwan would also like to point out that there is no requirement for competency for being a professor--this much is clear if you ever go to coimmunity college (though to be fair my one of my favorite professor, a specialist on the Gothic genre, DOES mispell quite a bit on the board and then fix it...so yeah, I'll be an EnglUsh professor, maple, wioth a capital "U" ion that English--deal with it or, better yet, ignore it as a typo, which everyone makes and most non-anal-retentive people just accept as being such.

Now David Letterman's on, and it's a rerun and yet still more original than you, so I don't hae time for you anymore--thanks for showing me I am, at the very least, not the most inane or insane person on this site. Now go troll someone else.

@orathic, who, incidentally, is NOT obiwanobiwan:

Yes, the Federation is a demoacry, we usually just see the NASA/Navy hybrid, Starfleet, which depending on the show and season is all about science and exploration, all about about the militaristic and Naval feel to it, or a blend of the two.

Spaceship captains and their diverse crews and ships that shoot phasers and photon torpedoes and go at faster-than-light speeds and even back through time, I guess, were thought to be more interesting than Seantor Beeblebrox pushing forth legislation to legalize the Pangalactic Gargleblaster to be sold to minors and second heads. ;)

Oh for Christ's sake.

Mapleleaf please create a thread for this nonsense.

In fact, no, fuck it. Make a thread wherein you roast me and only me. I can take it. Leave these people out of it. I'm so damn tired of your ruckus. Why the fuck do you give a shit?

I was going to say, "Will I get banned if I threaten to send him anthrax in the mail?" but then I was scared I'd get banned. (lol).

But then again, you are such a royal douche that most people here I think would have forgiven me flying off the handle in such a way.

So, mapleleaf, you said you had a family right? Why don't go spend some time with them?

Or, if you hate them like you hate everyone here, I invite you to make the Thucydides roast thread. Please. Go ahead. Say everything you hate about me, tell me why I'll never amount to anything, tell me what I spelled wrong and be a nitpicky mofo about my COMMA USAGE for Pete's sake.

Really?

I mean, I know it's the Internet, I know that's what you're supposed to do and all, but... comma usage? That's a sign on intelligence now on *Internet forum posts*?

Please. Fucking please. Get AIDS and die pal? For fuck's sake.

Am I feeding the troll? Yes. Yes I am fucking feeding you. Hopefully I'll feed you so much you burst, and your little foul pieces will fall down everywhere and we can call a shit-scraper to come get the little pieces of the scum which is you. I would be glad of it.

I reckon you aren't even who you say you are, but even if you are, for the love of God do something else with your time. If I was a mod I'd ban you, and not say why, and not tell anyone that I did it. Just a quiet kill. What you deserve really.

However if you are old like you say, I can take comfort knowing you'll likely die before I do, you old bag.

@Obiwan

Look man you do write a lot. You do. Um. I don't know what's good for you and what's not like Invictus does (lol), but uh... I dunno. I don't really know what to say.

Though perhaps you should try your hand at being more of a polymath. Take up something you've never really tried. A martial art, or a musical instrument, or fishing. Just something to expand your horizons. It will make you feel better about yourself.

Don't stop writing though. If you love doing that no one is going to stop you. In fact I know how you feel I like to write too. But mostly I write to myself, in Word documents that I never show anyone. Lol. Maybe some of that is in order. However, it is true that everyone here has a free choice whether they read your essays. I personally don't. I know (hope) you aren't offended by that but there you go.

Enjoy, but seriously, take up some hobby. If you put a fraction of the energy into it as you put into what you do now, you will find yourself very rewarded I expect. Maybe cooking. Or swimming. Or whatever. Go for it. Lol.

Ok. I'm out. I eagerly await maple's reaction. I don't really care, but I feel better now. Especially that bit about him dying off before me. Good to imagine a world without mapleleaf.

Good night.

@Thucy:

Hmmm...well, thanks for that, certainly not offended, thank you for taking an interest...

I will always keep writing, that's just my thing, though I am thinking of taking up something to kill time...Sherlock Holmes and Dr. House both play instruments and they're totally fixated, and I have a friend who's sort of like me only focused tightly on classical music and biology and engineering, plus she's not as...well, if you like me I guess you could use "intense" to describe how much I'm consumed by the lit/phil/theatre, and if you hated me I guess you could call it "obsessive" or "anal" (or you could wait for mapleleaf's next spam session...) and she plays the clarinet.

Thing is...well, I don't have time to take classes--plus I'm one of those "figure it out myself or with a friend or two's help" kind of people with that sort of thing (hence my liking Holmes and House so much, basically the same mentality there) and I don't have the nimblest of fingers (insert a joke here, plenty of good ones, lol) so I don't know what I'd play...can't play a wind instrument, as much as I might be full of hot air or blow (there's two jokes out of the way, maple) I actually wanted to learn sax as a kid, but couldn't, stroke and seizures mean I can't play those, it can cause stress to the brain...

So I don't know what to play--plus I'm someone who prefers to create something new rather than just play the old, so I'd want to write music, but it's so overly-structured even my friend--who's incredibly intelligent, holding a DOUBLE major in biology/engineering AND musical theory--says she can't write music...which is a shame, she'd probably love it, she's a HUGE Mozart fan (Mozart's HER Nietzsche and Beethoven her Shakespeare, so to speak.)

Plus I hate how structured all the notes and lines and bars are, this must be this way and it's so mathematical, which I'm horrible at...

Hence my literary fixation--couldn't play sports all that much as a kid because of the stroke, a good knock to the head and that could be it (which ended my dream of quarterbacking my 49ers while catching for my Mets and playinf right wing for my Ducks and also being the poet laureatte and president at 7 years old...LOL!), my mother's a math person, and my dad's an ex-CHP officer and now a huge Christian, so I spent a lot of time reading very young...

And so I've always been ahead of the game doing that and loving to read and write and analyze--my engineer/chemist/clarinet player friend has plenty she can do well, my other friends are actors and actresses and so have plenty of roles to play, and my closest friend is pretty much the polar opposite of me: I'm generally on the colder side and more analytical and cynical and logical than she is about everything from literature to people to life, and she generally places more of an emphasis on the heart than the head, so to speak, and is an optimist about love and swings far more emotionally; she's already had a couple of nasty breakups, which I analytically and objectively saw coming a mile off and warned her about, but she'd rather love and lose than never love, she sees value in it and truly wants to marry, whereas I take the position of Holmes or, to be a bit more colorful, Henry Higgins:

"Let the others of my sex
Tie the noose around THEIR necks,
I'd prefer a new edition
Of the SPANISH INQUSITION
Than to ever let a woman in my life!" ;)

But I respect her DEEPLY--enough so that she's the only person I'll apologize to or shut up for--so yeah...but she has a ton of intersts, she loves literature but also loves to draw and loves pop music and anime and movies and all sorts of other nonsense I can't STAND...but then I suspect she can't stand my being so fixated on logic and literature sometimes, so there you are, a blance out of friction on both sides, I guess...she likes the Los Angeles Dodgers and I like the New York Mets, and have now spent five years mostly bickering over something or another--but it works. ;)

So yeah--I'm honestly just one of those people who has that one thing but has it to a generally greater degree than msot people around him, at least so far, and I follow it so doggedly because life if fragile and can end at any second--another stroke--and you only get one, so you'd better make it count...and while my best friend's the opposite of me in every way it's still important enough of a relationship to me that I'd actually apologize (rather than just not caring if she was unhappy), but I'll never marry and never even meet up with someone--it's not my thing, I simply don't feel love PERIOD, mostly...I care deeply for her and a couple other people, but on the whole I care about human beings and humanity--but not enough to "tie the noose around my neck," as Higgins puts it (plus as you can tell I'd be THE WORST mate for someone ever...the one thing my friend and I agree on, LOL!)