OB:

He clearly corrected himself saying it wasn't verbatim.

I also made a WIFOM joke, so I'm clearly town.

##CALL GM -

As per the OP, the rules of this game follow those of M30. These are the rules of M30:

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Rules -

1. GM DISCRETION -
The GMs reserves the right to adjudicate individual scenarios that arise during the course of the game at their discretion.

2. VOTING REQUIREMENT -
All players must vote at least once per game day. Players who do not adhere to this rule will be subbed out or modkilled without warning and will not be able to participate in the next mafia game.

3. GM COMMUNICATIONS -
All players are forbidden from posting screenshots of their role PMs or revealing confidential details from their role PMs, including copying and pasting or paraphrasing a role PM. All confidential communications with a GM should be considered private unless a GM chooses to publicize them.

4. EXTERNAL INFLUENCES -
All players and spectators, including players who have been eliminated from the game, are forbidden from using non-sanctioned PMs to contact each other. All players and spectators, including players who have been eliminated from the game, are forbidden from commenting on or referring to the game in other non-related threads. This rule extends to any communications between players regarding the status or gameplay of players still involved in the game.

5. DEADPOSTING -
All spectators, including players who have been eliminated from the game, are forbidden from posting in the game thread. Deadposting may result in future suspension, at the discretion of future GMs.

6. CHEATING -
All players are forbidden from cheating and are required to play to their win condition, as outlined in their role PM. All players are required to play within the spirit of the game.

7. WEBDIPLOMACY RULES -
All players are subject to the regular webDiplomacy rules and guidelines for forum use, including the rules on no spamming, no public cheating accusations (this extends to mafia), answering all communication from the GM team. If you believe a player has broken site/game rules, contact the GMs, otherwise you will also be breaking site/game rules.

Further clarification to the rules are provided below, as follows:

1. Given a lack of omniscience, the GM cannot create a rule to resolve all possible scenarios preemptively. To compensate for this, the GM is permitted to resolve a given scenario however they see fit, within the remit of the rules listed above, in the interest of all participants. The GM will resolve all scenarios as closely as possible to the intention of the rules, and will present an explanation regarding the adjudication to the greatest possible detail (which does not compromise anything in-game) and as closely in accordance with the written rules as possible. Appeals of GM decisions can be sent directly to the GMs, but in most cases, a GM decision is final.

2. Voting is a basic requirement of play during the day phases of the game. To ensure that all players are meeting this basic requirement of gameplay, voting is prescribed within the rules. Players must have voted for another player in the game through the course of the day. Players can proceed to unvote if they wish. Players are permitted to end the day on an unvote or even an invalid vote, but they must cast a vote at some point during the day.

3. All role PMs have been posted in the setup information below, and all players (regardless of alignment) will receive the description of the vanilla town role within the complete text of their role PM. Likewise, all information that the GMs feel should be made public will be posted in the thread. Therefore, it is unnecessary and callous to screenshot or share one’s role PM or other communications with the GMs that will affect your or others’ ability to play the game fairly. The point of this rule is to forbid "gaming" GM communications to determine alignments; after all, the fun of this game is reading people, not outguessing the GM.

4. All in-game communications should be kept within the thread. The mafia will receive a QuickTopic thread for communicating with one another outside of the game thread during Night phases. Communications outside of this thread or that QuickTopic thread must expressly go through the GMs. Likewise, players may not discuss or communicate their roles or any other game-related information by PM or in other threads. Players that know each other outside of the game should refrain from discussing the game while it is still in process other than through acceptable channels, such as the game thread and the appropriate QTs.

5. Spectators, including players who have been eliminated or removed from the game, are not playing the game and therefore should not be influencing the proceeding course of the game's development. As such, spectators are not allowed to post in the game thread, to avoid disturbing the progress of the game. Doing so may result in a suspension or greater punishment, at the discretion of the GMs and the council.

6a. Incidents of potential cheating will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. Any player caught cheating as per the GMs’ collective judgment will be removed from the current game as a bare minimum. Future GMs or the council may choose to enact more penalties, including exclusion from future participation.

6b. Players should be able to adequately justify their actions under the GMs’ discretion according to their win condition. The GMs will exercise caution and restraint in observing this rule.

6c. Players are asked to play within the “spirit of the game” so that it is fun for the rest of the players. Behavior that violates the spirit of the game includes, but is not limited to: throwing against one’s faction, engaging in non-game related outbursts against another player or a GM, intentionally attempting to die, attempting to vote for or act against other players for reasons outside of the game, etc. This also means that if you need to leave the game for any reason, you should not simply drop out, but should message *both* of the GMs first so that they can determine the best course of action. It is assumed that players playing this game understand what the “spirit of the game” is and how to stay within its bounds. As such, the GMs will invoke this rule only if absolute necessary to maintain the sanctity of the game.

7. Under no circumstances are any webDiplomacy forum and site rules, both written and understood, to be broken during mafia games. Any player breaking forum or site rules of any kind will be promptly removed to the game and may be subject to other penalties at the discretion of the council and the moderators. Typically, moderator actions taken in-game will be overseen by a neutral member of the moderator team; ergo, neither a GM nor a player, alive or dead, will involve themselves in site moderation regarding this game unless absolutely necessary.

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I take this to mean that there is no posting requirement and that the rules as I wrote them in M29 other than the posting requirement (since I wrote those rules, and the only thing amended that I can see is that there is no posting requirement) are going to stand?

Prado and bo, do you really think I was serious? Sigh. This game is really going to be a slog.

Hello fellow townies. Sorry for being late and losing all the joke phase. I just forgot the game will start today. The good thing is Brain, Snowy and Jamiet aren´t on the game, so it´s just three pages to read.

Some quick first impressions:
For me it´s obviously stated both on the signup thread and on the meme first post with the PMs that the game have a 6 hours pre-game where Mafia can talk. Both Ogion and OB seems to not have understood it, which look weird and Tom called out Ogion on that and not OB. something to notice. I was considering it could be some bias I have after our last game together, but seems there is already a wagon on him, so it´s not only me.

Y2k is a scum role and he also refered to the scum PM as a "joke". Using the too scum to be scum tactic?

The others didn´t catch my attention. Bo is bo and Ghug is scummy, but he is always scummy to me. Oztra is oztra, but he is always VT, so it doesn´t matter.

I like Prado´s approach to the game, but maybe is also bias from our last game together.

A bit worried that 4 of our newbies didn´t show until now, it could turn into a problem considering we don´t have a post requirement.

I will be online and awake for the next 30 minutes if someone want to talk.

OB:

You weren't particularly funny, so it would be very easy to mistake you for serious.

I don't like bo rn

I don't like ghug rn

I feel like the rules shit is trying to be productive but not actually adding anything.

What do you think of the game so far, Byron?

Seems like everyone just accuses everyone of being scum. I'm fairly confident ghug and y2k aren't And i have some thoughts otherwise including that Tom and OB or one of the two is scum. But I'm new so i likely know nothing. :) what I do know is
#Ghugghug

y2k:
"i'm surprised more ppl aren't voting for me considering the roles literally say i'm scum"

I mean I'm sure you're joking, but doing so even out of a joke feels too predictable. Also last game there was a player named bozotheclown and a role with the flavor name Bozo the Clown, so it's been done and heard of. No one voted for him either.

Why ask for it?

I haven't done anything, ghug. I am trying to actually know what the rules are, though, since they aren't written out and the link to them is wrong. It's important.

Hi people, what up? Been very preoccupied recently.

And that was Vash's last post of the day.

Unexpectedly many players around at this hour. Does that mean I won't be having my usual catch up reading on my commute?

Anyway, hi all. For those who didn't meet me in M30, this is my second game ever and that might imply that I can't do them most obvious newbie mistakes anymore, but then again, it's not like that I yet have a clear picture of how to figure it all out.

That said, I plan to stick around at this first end of day this time around and not unopposed being as close to be ghughed out.

Hi all, glad to see the bullshitting is clearly underway. All the arguments for lynches so far are bad, as is customary. I'll probably hold my vote until the end today like last time.

@ogion and @rdriveria, you're the only two who've posted I've not played with or had mod one of my games before, so hi and good luck to you.

@rdriveria " Oztra is oztra, but he is always VT, so it doesn´t matter."
I find this funny because he was scum last game, the only game I've played with him, and he made it to final 4 as scum because he can fly under the radar well with his play style. Not that I have anything against him thus far, just saying.

@seichuto Let's not be stupid noobs again this time, at least brain isn't here to mind fuck us

@Bo Never thanked you for the vig shot you gave me long ago last time we played together, good job catching my sheepy scuminess in mafia 19

@ghug hope you have a nice day

@mods, thanks for running this, ya'll people is good people

##GM note

The rules of M30 that apply to this game M31 is found following this link:
http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?word=Rules%3A&part=1&g=30

Soooo it looks like living in a timezone five hours ahead of the game is going to make this interesting. If you could all just be a dear and assume, if I don't post, that I'm asleep rather than that I'm lurking, that'd be great. Otherwise, I think I'll just wait until the end of the phase and join a bandwagon... Looking forward to it!

@Kench - You asked for people don't assume you are lurking and then you told you will wait for EOD and join a wagon, that is more or less the definition of lurking. Care to explain this?

@Spirit - Hi, nice to meet you, and it's Rivera, not Riveria or Riveira. Just like the painter. Also, probably should have looked at M30 before talking of Oztra. All the games I played with him he was VT.

@Rivera - Hi, and thanks for bringing that to my attention! To be honest, I thought the definition of lurking was not talking. So I was saying that if I don't talk, assume that it's because I'm asleep in a different timezone, not that I'm just lurking. Waiting until the EOD and joining a wagon just seems like prudence to me as a newbie, given that it's all pure speculation for me at this stage as I don't know any of you or your playing styles! But waiting until the end of the day doesn't mean I won't talk when I'm awake - i.e. not the same as lurking. Does that clear it up?

A few thoughts:

1. Upon reflection, I actually think Ogion's early posting is more likely a town slip than a scum slip, as scum would likely be more naturally aware of the explicit time block between QT thread opening and Day 1 starting.

2. Suspicious of guak's initial posts, where in one breath he supports Tom suspecting Ogion's early post, then votes Tom for defending bosox.

3. Oztra's cryptic postings so far look like they are trying too hard to imply he's town, making me suspicious.

4. Not a fan at all of Kench opening with a preempted apology for the future appearance of lurking and declaring he will join a wagon rather than try to form initial independent opinions.

##VOTE Kench, he's pretty defensive out the gate as well. Do you have no thoughts on the first 4 pages and are just ready to follow the crowd?

@y2k:

Regarding 2 and 3. Do you interpret guak's vote as more than a joke vote? And as far as Oztra goes, what sticks out to you as unusual or 'trying too hard to be town?" I've never read anything Oztra writes and thought it looked like he was trying to hard (or really trying at all).

thanks tom

"idk who is scum"

"can someone link me the mafia qt"

yeah its called a meme
and a joke
take it

You interpret that as trying to hard to look town?