Well, being clever, I'd tell my friend where I was going and if I didn't call at a certain time to assume I was in trouble.

@Santa: I don't bring the girl back to my house for the "first date." I've usually known the girl for a little while before it goes there.

And I can't afford to take MYSELF out to dinner, so paying for two people is totally out of the question.

And if your friend is on a date and forgets about the time? What if your cell dies/has no coverage? What if your friend's cell has a problem. TV uses the call trick all the time but there are risks inherent in relying on wireless technology.

"And if your friend is on a date and forgets about the time?"
I have better friends than that.
"What if your cell dies/has no coverage?"
Then we have a false-positive and I'm a little embarrassed in front of my date.
"What if your friend's cell has a problem."
Again, I have competent friends I can rely on. They'd figure it out.

Honestly, that seems a lot safer than me than going on 1 or 2 dates and just assuming because he didn't mention he was a rapist, it's perfectly safe to go back to his place on the 3rd.

<*shakes head in disbelief at the naivette*>

I'm naive because I trust my friends to follow through on something?

Look, I've gone to plenty of parties where I've been in charge of making sure my female friends don't leave with a random guy. I'm pretty damn good at it. If a friend told me to make sure she was OK at a specific time, I'm going to do it, even if it involves fucking driving down there and looking like an idiot. My friends would do the same for me.

@abgemacht - Your friends might be more reliable than that, but you are a guy with mistly guy friends. The Bro Code is there for you. Young females tend to be a little less reliable when out drinking at night.

Well, I sure as fuck wouldn't have a female friend check up on me if I was a girl going on a date, would I? That's just double-trouble.

First rule of opposite sex friends. The girl is either ugly or the guy wants in her pants. Ask your female friends if they would make that prposed arraingment with most of their male friends. Remove yourself from the equation because you are the exception, not the rule.

lol

First, I have several attractive female friends that I have no interest in fucking.

Second, I don't care if they would make it with most of their friends, because they would make it with me. And, if I was a chick, all else being equal, I'm sure I could find a friend like me because most of my male friends already are.

Ask them. Take yourself out of the equation and ask if they would rather rely on a friend or just meet the guy in a public place.

I just gchatted my friends Psychology Chick and Christian Girl. I'll let you know what they say.

"Important webDip fight
If a guy asked you out on a first date and wanted to cook for you at his place
would you feel comfortable with it if you told someone, such as me, to call you at a given time and make sure you weren't getting raped?"

For a number of creepy reasons, I advise making sure the first several dates are in a public place. Unless you have known the person and invited them to your place as a function of knowing them before, that sets off a creeper vibe. And you wouldn't believe the stuff that goes on if you haven't experienced it. For instance, the woman I am married to dated this dude before we were married, and they were kind of on again off again. I knew her during this period. She broke up with him, and he asked her if they could just go out one more time as a way to break it off cordially.

And proceeded to lock her in his van, take her to a place that he paid a friend of his to make available to him (a lake cottage), took away her clothes, and while he didn't sexually molest her (beyond taking her clothes) he demanded that she couldn't leave until she admitted their love was forever and took him back.

I led a posse of my friends to find the place, not because I arranged things in advance like abge suggests but because I knew when I couldn't reach her that night that something was wrong. The problem comes in that she had just recently moved to Lansing (where I lived) from near Detroit, so none of us were familiar with the area or people involved. I remembered enough from talking to her that I was able to track it down successfully enough (a different friend of hers went to check it himself thinking I might be creepy, as I came across him by knowing where she used to work and knowing the names of a few people there from old work stories).

This might be one of the biggest reasons she puts up with my shit nowadays.

This does not make me think of Michigan in a more positive light.

the first several dates in public places?maybe the first date but the second date must be more intimate,date number 3 is the sex or bye bye date.

^not sure if serious

PE, go on three dates with taos and then you'll know.

Umm... pass.

I have to side with Draug here. Unless I was friends with the guy before dating him then there's no way I'd go back to his place for a date. Just not a safe situation.

@President Eden why is it hard to believe?
how many dates you need for that?
maybe half of my sex was with no dates at all.you just meet a girl and invite her to have sex with you. 80% may say no,but you only need to ask 9 girls.
pure statistic.
israel is very much secure and girls are not so afraid ,i also like to meet certain kind of girls,who use drugs anyway so they are ready for it.

80% may say no, but if you ask 9 girls then 1.8 of them will say yes?

Taos those are the kind of girls you normally catch something from though.

thank you guys so much!
as i am reading and writing my answer,i understand why i am still single.
i just date only sluty girls.

if you ask 10 girls you may get lucky and have two.
lol

@taos - wow... just... wow... Don't know what to say...

Say you'll be his wingman, Draugnar. He can have the 1, and you can have her friend who 0.8 legal age.

I only look nowadays (23+ years married) and any girl that hangs with his girls is likely to have something I could catch just by looking.

I certainly wouldn't invite a woman to my house on the first date, because of

a) the security stuff
and
b) if the date is shit, it's easier for both parties to just leave if they are in a public space