"Because that's all you've ever said in regards to students here."

To counteract all the teacher-bashing that goes on around here and everywhere else.

As an educator I thought you'd understand this. Evidently not. Your big brain missed that one.

Log on again after a few hours, see many new response to this thread. Am excited to read entertaining anecdotes. Find it's mostly threadshitting and trollfeeding. Am severely disappointed.

I had a science teacher in junior high who would run maggot races on the overhead projector. Now that was entertainment.

this is like a case study for the internet making people more difficult.

"this is like a case study for the internet making people more difficult."

I hope that's true, ck.

How's Chris Christie working out for you, Predictus? Curious minds want to know.

I predicted he'd win reelection. So pretty good.

And standard Putin33 sidestep.

You're the only one who's brought up engineering here, Putin.

Yes, yes that is correct. Why that matters or how it is relevant, your big brain will have to teach me.

Putin,

You constantly complain about students. When I tell you about good experiences I've had with students you are placed into such a state of disbelief that you turn into a broken record claiming I'm the best TA. I think that is plenty of evidence to believe you're a bad teacher.

Boom!

You already gave me that line, abgemacht. For a brilliant teaching mind you're awfully repetitive. You also can't seem to stay on topic, nor do you bother reading responses to points you already made.

Jon Madden, aka, your cheerleader in chief doesn't seem to mind your repeating the same thing over and over again. He's just as impressed as he was the first time you gave that lame line. No wonder you get unanimously great evals.

Where's Jon Madden? Did I mute him?

Well, it seemed to me there were two conversations happening at once. One is how I'm nasty because I called you a bad teacher. I'm explaining how I came to that conclusion. The second conversation seems to be how large my brain is as evidenced by my being an engineer, which I think everyone would agree requires no further expansion.

@Randomizer-- You wrote, <<My psychology major roommate mentioned the same thing for his psych classes. You needed to give answers using the professor's school of thought interpretations or you would get a failing grade. They showed the same thing in one episode of "Growing Pains.">>

That's not all that unusual in college, but when it does happen, students should very respectfully follow the grade appeals process through in its entirety. Keep copies of everything, and appeal any low-graded papers on the basis of academic freedom, which applies to students as well as to teachers. As long as your papers show an understanding of the concepts and your points are well-supported, you should get an 'A' even if you completely disagree with the teacher's conclusions. If that doesn't bear fruit you can contact F.I.R.E.: The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education. They support teachers and students wherever academic freedom is infringed upon. They threatened legal action when our administration tried to restrict student protests against class cuts to one little patio, four hours per week. Things really heated up when our local congressperson showed up for the next protest and the administration not only refused to allow him a microphone, they also had a row of uniformed police with guns standing by. Those police officers really looked embarrassed! lol

Since then the VP and President involved have been charged with several felonies related to gifts from contractors. Somehow the venue got moved from the DA who did the initial investigations and given to a young judge who is letting everyone off with misdemeanors.

"The second conversation seems to be how large my brain is as evidenced by my being an engineer,"

Poor reading comprehension. Poor summary.

I'm actually quite surprised how you're taking this. I actually thought you hated teaching and had moved on to other things.

"students should very respectfully follow the grade appeals process through in its entirety."

Maybe, but it's a hassle. I got a C on a minor paper in an international realtions class. It was of equal quality to the work I put in on every other, but happened to be about the Irish economy and I happened to turn it in just before the crisis hit there. By the time the TA was grading it pretty much everything I said was wrong (laughably so), but the sources I used were legit. He was fairly savage in grading it, and I appealed to the professor, but even though I got the TA to have to look at it again I noticed it was always in his mailbox untouched. Then suddenly the semester was over.

I still got an A in the class since the class had an unbelievably easy and multiple choice (can you believe it?) final. But still, it made me suspiscious of grading appeals.

I teach kids with special needs on a day-to-day basis and am in the process of defending my dissertation/ getting my PhD so I can teach at the college level. Both things are not state secrets.

As I explained earlier, I was counteracting the teacher-bashing. You either choose to ignore that or don't care and just want to repeat the same crap over and over again. I guess I can't complain about students without getting called a 'bad teacher'.

Also - name a doctor or nurse who doesn't complain about patients. Name a retail worker who doesn't complain about customers. Name a lawyer who doesn't complain about clients. If you live in a wonderland where none of the people you interact with bother you or feel entitled and act rude to you then I salute you, sir, for having such a fantastic job.

See abgemacht? Since people apparently said mean things about teachers other places Putin33 is justified to say mean things about students here. It's really quite simple.

They all do, putin. On the other hand, the level of bitterness you demonstrate is rarely present. If I heard a lawyer say, "The problem with the legal system isn't the judges or the lawyers, it's the clients!" I probably would not recommend him to anybody.

Invictus, if you're going to engage in this pathetic colloquy with abgemacht at least have a modicum of honesty and recognize that this forum is replete with teacher-bashing, which is where the previous instances of me "complaining about students" came from.

He probably wouldn't say it to clients.

Relevance?

If I heard him say it at all (for example, to me, another lawyer), I probably still wouldn't recommend him.

"recognize that this forum is replete with teacher-bashing"

I don't recognize any use of "x-bashing." It's so over used as to be meaningless. Anything critical of teachers is bashing to someone like you, just like anything critical of the liberal meme du jour is bashing for obiwanobiwan.

If the lawyer thing is a joke, it's pretty funny. If it's serious, it's just delusional. We have a legal system because people have problems, not just to push papers around for no ultimate purpose. Doing that is only a part of it.