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krellin (80 DX)
18 Jul 14 UTC
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Oh noes...the AIDS Researchers...
Just listened to Obama blathering about the AIDS researchers on the Malaysian flight. Oh noes...the AIDS researchers....suddenly this flight is more important than others, because of the AIDS researchers...

If it were just shmucks like you and I that had died…not so big a deal. But the AIDS researchers…oh noes…Anyone else think that every life is precious, not just the AIDS researchers….OH NOES!!!
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pangloss (363 D)
20 Jul 14 UTC
WBC SoundCloud
The Westboro Baptist Church has a SoundCloud page. They have 7h30 worth of parodies, some good, some bad (in terms of singing, production, etc.).
https://soundcloud.com/wbcsays/sets/parodies
In particular, 666 (Pumped-up Kicks) is fairly well done.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
19 Jul 14 UTC
The WebDip Forum Drinking Game
Take a shot if.......
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NBA Free Agency
I thought it would be nice to have a thread on NBA free agency, see what everyone was thinking about the main 'dramas' unfolding
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
18 Jul 14 UTC
Zionism, Jihad, Integration and the Postbellum South
By Al Swearengen

Actually, I probably won't get around to writing this.
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Yaniv (1323 D(S))
19 Jul 14 UTC
Diplomacy, statistically speaking...
what are the odds of a player (a) soloing; (b) drawing; (c) surviving; (d) losing?
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THELEGION (0 DX)
19 Jul 14 UTC
bar fight
Ok so there's a giant drunken bar fight between the irish, germans, vikings, russians and a combined force of american red necks and hill billys which group will win.
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ThatBuhlLarry (100 D)
19 Jul 14 UTC
For Anyone Interested in a World Game
1 day phases; starts in 3 days
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=144739
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
05 Jul 14 UTC
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Mafia IV: Reptilian Invasion
See inside.
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Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Also on WD matter - I said earlier that if reptiles think I'm the Cop then then would try to get me shot in the day as they think Doc may save me at night. Y2 is still voting for me but who else is reading me as Scum? WardenDresden of course, ready to jump onto any bandwagon against me. Nice play WD, but sooooo reptilian.
pjmansfield99 (100 D)
10 Jul 14 UTC
I'm sorry guys, I know I've been a bit lurky this time. I knew I was going to be pretty locked up in work which was why originally I only wanted to be a replacement but couldn't resist joining up. Will try and get some original thought going later but frankly I still see Krellin as scummy as hell.

My throwaway comment last night about voting for Bo was more of a willingness to if no-one else sees what I'm seeing with Krellin. He's my second scum feel so feel comfortable putting a lynch on him
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Summary of my reads

Most scum to least scum
WD
Y2
ILN

Null
Bo
Guak
Ghug
PJ

Govt
Krellin


y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
@Maniac: very interesting theory, albeit misguided, on how uclabb could have taken the risk of looking like he wanted to have me lynched last minute, calculating it wouldn't work because I'm a fellow scum and not enough people were online for the deadline. Even more contrived is this weird notion you have that the reptiles could think you are the cop, and therefore I just stick my head out and accuse you to get you lynched during the day. Clearly I haven't tried all that hard to get people to vote for you today, because honestly I'm not 100% confident you're scum, you were only my top scum read for most of the day. My biggest issue with you was your seemingly unmoved thoughts of people when the night kills flipped and screwed with your only reads post right before the night ended. You've done well in the past few hours finally to rectify that, and couple that with not many others feeling a lynch is warranted for you quite yet, I won't be pressing you much more today. I still highly suspect you aren't human.

I didn't have as much time as I wanted to last night to evaluate bosox and krellin heavily due to a last-minute poker game I got willingly roped into. I did read through them both briefly, and for bosox I found myself seeing what most others are seeing. One comment in particular struck me that he made to Maniac on page 4 regarding how we absolutely can't lynch someone because they are lurking/not helpful, we need to lynch scum. Add that to the list of bosox contradictions, with bosox adamant that a krellin lynch would be good even if he's town because he's not being helpful. Which, by the way, he actually is being helpful.

My brief analysis of krellin focused on what he requested, that he acted differently with different purposes both days. Day 1 he was supporting the no-lynch idea and had me going on it too, and when that didn't stick he got incredulous that others thought he was scum for thinking it. In terms of the role claim, krellin has thus far come out saying he lied about it. He may actually still be a power role and decided to throw us off by lying about lying. And if he was a vanilla townie lying about a power role, it would seem he definitely threw off the mafia by attracting a roleblock. Obviously the roleblock doesn't clear krellin because if he was scum, the roleblock would help to exonerate him down the road and could have been a reasonable mafia play. However, we get into day 2 for Krellin and he comes out swinging, first at maniac then at bosox. When people have accused krellin of scummy behavior today, it's been focused on the weird way he's navigated his vague role claim, and whether he actually is a power role or vanilla town, i see both of those as more likely scenarios to explain his actions thus far, than if he were scum. His reads of people for Day 2 and the evidence he's put forward has all been solid. I still trust he's human.

I think bosox or maniac would be good lynch targets for today. Bosox really has given up on defending himself for the later part of today, so given he has the votes already, I'm inclined to move forward on that. ##VOTE bosox
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
@Y2 - be good to hear your thoughts on why I think WD is a reptile
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
I think it's a very big stretch, especially considering that it somewhat relies on me being scum, which I know to be false. I had a problem in M2 with Warden thinking he was scum for two straight days and got him lynched as an innocent townie. I see very similar behavior from him here, the same behavior you're trying to ID as scummy, and therefore I'm struggling to see him as scum. The contradictions you're trying to attribute to his logical thinking are definitely stretching things, and Warden's EOD voting pattern for Day 1 could certainly be rationalized from a town perspective of not knowing anything and going on whims, all the town has on Day 1. Warden has a null to town read from me.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
@Y2 - whilst my theories stand up with you and warden being in a team - they stand up separately. When a third player (who wasnt Krellin or Squigs) becomes a viable alternative, every govt official who thought the Squigs was a power role townie would have switched.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Also Y2 - your defense of WD ie that he is exhibiting similar behavior to the behavior he exhibited in M2 when he was lynched as an innocent is a great argument. It was put forward by Ghug on D1 - did you just do a search and copy and paste? How about giving us some original thoughts?
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
OK, say Warden was scum in that situation. Would he have wanted to switch from one townie (squigs) to another (me) during that EOD last minute vote craziness? I think he would have. When I flipped town, it would have lead to a reason to throw serious suspicion on Squigs for Day 2. The fact that he didn't switch off Squigs to me makes me think he's a clueless townie, not conniving scum.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
And I was the main honcho hammering Warden in M2, it was basically me and me alone that ensured his lynching on Day 2 of M2 when I was put in a position to roleclaim when i was getting votes.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
@Y2 - if WD was scum he would've stayed on Squigs believing he had a power role. If he was human he would've flipped to anybody save Squigs or Krellin.

Not switching = non-human
Switching = Human

Simple as that
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
You're digging a hole Y2 - I suggest you bus your buddy.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Warden said himself that with Squigs not coming forward with a roleclaim, he was obliged to keep his vote on him. Then Squigs even came out and said he was NOT a power role and just vanilla. So Warden knew Squigs wasn't a power role. Care to plug that hole in your argument?
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
I'll dig all day, I got nothing to hide.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Squigs not role-claiming should've been an even bigger flag that he was govt. Only a reptile would fake role-claim after a role claim. WD is a good player, he knows that.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
So the main basis behind your argument against Warden is now nullified, could you please try again to reword your case against Warden? The basis for the one you posted was just completely falsified. 2 sentences aren't fixing that.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
When the other players show up, they'll all see the evidence against WD is overwhelming Y2. If you are still going intent on putting up this defence as his proxy barrister, it won't look good for you. I say you bus him.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
make that 3 vague sentences
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
haha, alright then maniac, we'll see what others have to say about your argument against him being based on an incorrect state of affairs
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Yeah Sure...

30 mins out WD thinks squigs is a power role. But is 'forced' to vote for him to protect someone who has roleclaimed. In itself that's a questionable tactic, but OK it happened. Later a 3rd guy becomes viable (Y2) and WD says he could buy Y2 lynch but stays on Squigs. At this point we know squigs isn't a power role because he would've had to role-claim with proof. We know he isn't scum because scum would fake role-claim out of desperation. In effect we know he is innocent. We don't know if you are - but he refuses to switch from a 80% govt guy to a 50/50 at best guy (Y2). None of this relies on you being scum.

I'm telling you WD is reptile and your reffusal to see it speak volumes. Bus him.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
According to Warden my 1-liner when I started getting votes was enough to convince him not to vote for me:

"I'm town, but I accept the suspicion thrown on me. I haven't been too vocal for Day 1."

It's all I really could offer, and since I'm not scum, my lynching wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world so I felt no need to try to fabricate things to defend myself more. Warden commented that it was enough for him to not think I was scum for the time being, since I wasn't being incredulous at all about the votes on me. So he explained why he didn't switch to me, he didn't just not do it. So tell me why I'm supposed to think his correct read of me scummy? Hindsight is 20/20; you can't claim that any townie should have completely thought I was more scummy than Squigs.
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
It's completely true that if I were scum I would have been hammering those voting for me much more.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Yeah your one liner would've been enough to convince every player who has ever played the game that you were govt. I take it all back.

Not really. Here's a shovel keep digging.

You fellow reptiles won't blame you for bussing WD, Y2 - uclabb sis probably screaming at the monitor right now 'bus him, save yourself, win for the team, it's all that matters'.

Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
You didn't need to hammer people who were voting for you. You knew your team had your back.
krellin (80 DX)
10 Jul 14 UTC
What??? This idiotic notion that townies are here to sacrifice and they should be willing to die is nonsense. the object of the game is for towneis to survive, for scum to die, period.

Unfortunately as a part of this process townies do die, and "must" - but the "must" is only because our psychic skills as humans are deficient (as opposed to the absolute 100% town-knowledge of lizards)

If I know I am town, my death serves a disservice, and i am required to fight to survive, not sacrifice myself in hopes that someone can draw some strange connection and root out all the mafia.

I consider that "I'm willing to die" argument to be anti-town.

YES...before you throw it in my face - I said fuck you all and voted for myself a couple times...and *immediately* came back swinging and casting votes...it's was exasperation over idiocy, not a willingness to die.

but I keep reading here and there about this glorious, wonderful act of dying as a townie. Sorry, there are no 40 virgins waiting your death...just a lizards belly.

If you are innocent, FIGHT. Otherwise I will consider your non-defense as lizard-like.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
I 100% can claim that every player would've seen you as more scummy than squigs in that situation btw.
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
@krellin - who was you're latest rant directed at?
Maniac (184 D(B))
10 Jul 14 UTC
I can 100% claim *
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
10 Jul 14 UTC
Yup you figured it out Maniac, you're a genius. uclabb tries the throw the vote onto a fellow mafia member, others start to follow, and Warden is the third dude making sure it didn't officially switch to me and I dodge a lynch by 1 vote. All without talking yet. Then we anticipated that uclabb would get shot so that uclabb wouldn't have to back up his suspicions of me in Day 2. And in this entire yelling back and forth we are having, I feel no need to "bus" my fellow mafia member that you and only you has provided false information to generate your claim such that if we were both mafia, either of us getting uncovered ends us. Pure genius. If Warden and I were both mafia, I assure you I would have shut the fuck up an hour ago.
krellin (80 DX)
10 Jul 14 UTC
"Only a reptile would fake role-claim after a role claim. "

Bullshit. Actually a good townie would fake role-claim after a role-claim to protect the real role from being killed.

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krellin (80 DX)
18 Jul 14 UTC
:) OR (:
Why do smiley faces always have to come eyes-first?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Jul 14 UTC
Now Trending on Tumblr
Another person killed by stupid aggressive cops for no fucking reason. Is anyone surprised?

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/staten-island-man-dies-puts-choke-hold-article-1.1871486
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
17 Jul 14 UTC
Malaysian Airliner shot down over Ukraine
Never getting on a Malaysian aeroplane...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-28354856
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Jul 14 UTC
I work for a US multi-national and.....
.... they use websense to prevent me going to certain undesirable websites.
I cannot access the Labour Party or Liberal Democrats websites.
Guess what, I can access the Conservative website.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
17 Jul 14 UTC
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does life get any better?
Sitting out back, fire pit ablaze, smoking a cigar and sipping a scotch while the dogs run around a d bark at the dear and the sun sets...
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 Jul 14 UTC
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What I've Been Saying About Gaza:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/israel-iron-dome-could-prolong-195600244.html Main quote inside, but essentially--the Iron Dome, which has (thankfully) stopped hundreds of rocket attacks in just a few days now, has taken all pressure off Netanyahu to negotiate, while Hamas arguably stands to gain more from prolonging the conflict--ie, shooting rockets knowing they'll be intercepted and reprisals will come--than by making peace. So, settle in, boys and girls...
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
17 Jul 14 UTC
WTF is wrong with Indian men....
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28340617

Kiddie rape in India ...... the police are so useless some might accuse them of being part of the overall problem
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
17 Jul 14 UTC
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Babak wanted to say "Hi" to WebDip
Babak asked me to say "Hi" to webdip on facebook. He is doing well, has a 6 month old baby, and just moved to a new country, but once things settle down, he might join us again.
So in the mean time, shape up your diplomatic and tactical skils and let's see who else we can drag back. :)
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josepr (100 D)
17 Jul 14 UTC
what is the average age of webdiplomacy players?
Is there a statistic? I want to know. In a game I felt I was playing with the stubbornness of a child. He/she wanted ALL his way. All the negotiation was "this is mine mine mine". He/she couldn't see the repercussions of a bad decision because he/she wanted the gratification of now.

Seriously, knowing the age of a person before starting a game or a negotiation can help a lot. Psychological speaking.
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brora (100 D)
18 Jul 14 UTC
How to join a new game?
I'm a new player - new to this site. I am trying to get into a new game. When I press on 'New' I see a list of new games. However, some are 'padlocked' and require passwords. How do I get into those? Or can I only play games without padlocks?
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lixu893 (0 DX)
18 Jul 14 UTC
Where to buy Cases For Samsung Galaxy S5
You need a special case for your new Samsung Galaxy S5, to show your taste and protect your phone. We happen to have thousands of different styles cases for Samsung Galaxy S5. It is your best choice for shopping at our store. Free shipping for two cases now at http://www.centurycases.com/.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
17 Jul 14 UTC
^^^^ UK General Election 2015 ****
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28339128
Lib Dems have gone early while Cameron is on the defensive after his re-shuffle. Because of the current coalition of Tories/Liberals there will be a new dynamic to the elections, also the rise of UKIP is a bit of an unknown factor.
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mikelikeike (100 D)
17 Jul 14 UTC
Live Game, Players needed
Low risk game. Join now. Slots will go fast!
gameID=144714
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SYnapse (0 DX)
16 Jul 14 UTC
How to Solo as Italy
Is there a way?
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
17 Jul 14 UTC
Best free webdesign software
I'm very likely going to design another website, but unlike last time, this isn't for school or something, so I can use all the tools I want to make my job easier. What software would you recommend? There's quite a lot to choose from and I don't want to try them all, nor spend extra hours because I'm missing some very useful features...
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mikelikeike (100 D)
17 Jul 14 UTC
Dominion 2 (live game)
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Jamiet99uk (758 D)
15 Jul 14 UTC
UK Cabinet re-shuffle
Hague stepping down as Foreign Secretary, Gove removed from Education and sidelined. Thoughts?
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
16 Jul 14 UTC
Best Grand Strategy Computer Game
Had a good discussion yesterday, I figured we can explore another topic.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
16 Jul 14 UTC
Mod Team Announcement Part 1 of 2
goldfinger0303 is stepping down as an Admin, as he no longer has the time to visit the site. 2ndWhiteLine has been promoted to an Admin to fill goldfinger0303's role. So thank you goldie for the years of moderating, and thank you 2nd for agreeing to the extra workload.
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tvrocks (388 D)
17 Jul 14 UTC
16 hour phase gunboat
gameID=144690 join now.
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ssorenn (0 DX)
15 Jul 14 UTC
Watches or timepieces
Does anyone here collect, watches or timepieces?
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