Care to explain why I'm so certainly evil, Chaqa?

Explanations on your other reads would also be nice, of course.

For you it's the smugness, mostly, and the departure from your previous play.

For others, it's a mix of gut feelings, and odd ideas put forward (like Maniac).

For pj, it's completely a guess

bo - I DID make a case against ghug. God!!! Again, if you kiddies want to play, instead of just dismissing old krellin, you actually haves to reads.

ghug is being the mafia bully, attempting to drive and steer all conversation. He wants to lay out accusations and have his word followed. If you disagree with him, he smears you further...there is no dissent...there is onyl a drive to lynch, no discussion allowed.

Very scum. ghug is very lizard.

That IS the argument, Bo-ster. There is no "evidence" to go on at this point, there is only behavior, and explanations of behavior.

You may not like me, but I have explained everything I have done. ghug....he does not explain his bahavior. He dismisses eveything he doesn't like and slanders to silence dissent.


And frankly, Bo-ster -- YOU have a rather nasty habit of telling people to shut up, which ALSO puts you on the suspect list.

Here's a hint, bo -- if you want to find something out about someone, you need to provoke them to reveal their true self...<wink> Got it? Good...

Krellin, again, that's just inaccurate. I never voted for you yesterday. I disagreed with you numerous times, and every time I gave an argument and you tried to stifle it with your bullshit about my refusing to see other opinions. You're the one who can't accept conflicting opinions, and I'm getting sick of the hypocrisy.

Chaqa, I wouldn't call it smugness. I reacted to your end of day shenanigans the same way I reacted to Warden's last game, because they were scummy. My interactions with krellin come out of a place of annoyance rather than smugness because, despite what he'd have you believe, I think he's town and I think his actions have been detrimental to our cause.

Lol - love your guess Chaqa, that really makes a lot of sense.

I understand the behavioral case against ghug, because he is trying to lead conversation rather forcefully, but it fits the personality he showed in the latter stages of M3 when he was town and there probably should be more discussion than there is. I'm a little surprised at how unresolved the WIFOM conversation is yet how tired people are of talking about it. We also could be taking a lot more time updating reads, asking questions, and providing answers, but it appears to me that we've taken a turn toward tug-of-war, with ghug on one end and you, krellin, on the other, with various allies stabilizing the ends of the rope. So, at this junction, without evidence, the behavioral case against ghug is no better or worse than the behavioral case against you, which is to say it's not good.

For what it's worth, krellin, what changed? It couldn't have been 24 hours ago when ghug was a lurker, when he wasn't doing enough. Now he's speaking too harshly, building too many cases, asking too many questions - where's the middle ground?

Last post from me on my computer. I'll try to read from my phone as night comes to a close, but I'll be busy consorting with my fellow Iguanas.

OK – for those who haven’t worked it out yet my earlier comment… “Krellin is trying to fool the doc to save him which leaves me and the Vig exposed.” Seems to imply that I am the Cop. I’m not.

I am the former president’s bodyguard. My instincts and training cut in when I thought that my old buddy Krellin was likely to be targeted by the reptiles and/ or mutants that are watching our every move. As Ghug said earlier “Town players exist to be sacrificed”, I’d gladly give myself up for anyone of you guys.

I know that I won’t last to the end of the game, that’s fine. My wincon is not surviving but making sure someone in the govt survives. That way they can go on and rebuild this nation.

If you are the real Cop, do not waste your scan on me. I will be dead soon enough, scanning me will give you temporary information. It may be that the reptilians role-block me tonight, if so and I’ve helped you get a free scan through, use it wisely.

If you are the doctor you have a decision to make, and I don’t envy you that decision. I’d take a big glass of wine to the table and mull it over. The reptiles and mutant are likely to target me or Krellin (Unless Krellin is non-human). You need to decide who to protect. You may decide to protect neither of us and that’s fine too. Whatever you decide – good luck.

If you are the vig. Take a shot tonight. Either Krellin or I am likely to be role-blocked so you have a cheap shot.

To everyone else. My apologies if playing the bodyguard role was a bad idea. I will make my final reads before the night ends.

So you made up your own narrative, or am I missing something?

Never picked up on any role claim. hmm.

Everything is right there Bo - I don't think you've missed anything all game.

@Maniac: I think the whole point of playing the bodyguard role is lost when you explain it. So, this makes me think that either you really blew it with that slip, or you should had allowed bosox and pj to think you slipped without explaining. Moreover, If you are trying to pull a PE and you are the mutant trying to get mafia to target you and waste their kill so you can roleclaim later, then I will be pissed. Two games in a row with a 'vig' SK would really suck.

@ghug, semck, and y2k: Thanks for the answers, I will put them under serious consideration the next time I update my reads. I am not sold on all of them, but I can give the benefit of doubt. ILN is still my top suspect so far.

@ILN: where are you hiding? I would really like to know the answers to all the questions i have asked you.

@krellin: stop fight

No, I am missing something. What's the bodyguard role?

**READS PLEEEEZE** sigh...for all you people that bitch adn moan about me not reading....sigh...

@bosox: it is a pseudo role invented by Maniac to:
a) Try to create confusion around an honest slip
b) Try to create confusion because he believes krellin is fakeclaiming
or c) Try to pull a PE.

Vigilante, all I ask is you do not hold your shot.

Wait, so the bodyguard role doesn't actually exist, and I was right before when I said he made up his own narrative?

Also, how is what he's doing like PE?

If he is SK then he has NK and CS immunity which would mean that even if the doc does not save him and he is targeted he does not die. This would be good for us townies obviously, but it exposes him as the mob would know for sure he is SK and would likely lead to a situation where Maniac would roleclaim and pull a PE. I sure hope it is not something of the sort.

I didn't see exactly how PE's claim progressed, but in the end he was forced to kill whoever we voted for.

Bo - The feigned ignorance act – not buying it AT ALL. “What…oh…gee, I don’t understand this game. I’m just a silly nooooooob….I sure hope they don’t’ kill me”. Yeah, total Lizard play, Bo – minimizing yourself, making yourself look harmless…except when you make your very pointed jabs and accusations. Funny how a guy can be at once both so entirely ignorant, and yet have such strong opinions. Expert play, Mr. Lizard. I’ll line you up and shoot you right af Mr. Fart-Sniffer.

Lol, all right krellin, thanks for telling us what role you are too.

Bo I explained my actions. You just keep playing ignorant. This isn't your first rodeo, you have good reading skilllzzz...so drop the act.

There are so many crazy hints in this game that I am going mad. I feel like some people here are trying to triple bluff or something.

/\ psychic alert. psychic alert

Krellin, if you don't like "psychics," how do you propose we determine who to lynch instead?

I'm a lizard, shoot me

Chaqa are you seriously giving up and begging the vig to shoot you?