Well I thought they were mods.

"I don't feel its a double standard. I feel like I'm asking you to do your fucking job, which you don't. Asking you to do your job whether or not its volunteer is not a favor, its a request which you can chose to comply or ignore as a volunteer. You usually chose to ignore or to go through the motions, fine, you are just a volunteer.

I see the double standards in that you punish people more consistently and severely when they point out someone cheated than when someone actually cheats."

If this were true you and multiple other members who have posted cheating accusations would have been banned already. I'm sorry you feel I was unfair to you but I have docked points and silenced people consistently since becoming a moderator. I don't care who posts the accusations and I don't care what they are, if it is going to cause a negative impact on the player being accused then the accusation is unacceptable.

Isn't it great that people like me that don't give a fuck about anything that you guys are talking about have to mute a thread that has become a mod-bash-party even though it was intended to be congratulatory?

Love you guys.

"And all those nice things don't change the fact you were a smug prick in SMC's thread, like you tend to be when you put the mod hat on."

Perhaps if people followed the rules more, I wouldn't have as many opportunities to act so smug. : )

I don't feel you were unfair to me, I asked to be banned because I thought the policy was so ridiculous. No problem there with your action, just the fact that you all are so willing to use the ban in the case of accusations of cheating (when there was by all accounts cheating) rather than when someone actually cheats

Then, the kicker, was that you used the time we were banned to make smug and snotty comments to spike the ball. Not mod behavior, not admin behavior, but expected.

@Santa

First, you were *not* banned. You were Silenced. There is a difference and it is important.

Second, we have used Silencing about 5 times in the history of the site. We have *never* banned a player for cheating accusations.

Your arguments are simply invalid due to the inaccuracies of your statements.

@bo_sox, no I actually don't mind. That's part of the fun of this forum, everyone is allowed to air their grievances.

@bo-sucks No, you don't have to mute the thread you gay-ads drama queen. You could exercise self-choice and just not read it or participate in it. Fucktard moron.

Jmo is a homewrecker! Tearing this family apart... Also, congrats.

I'm rather enjoying your phones auto correct right now Krellin.

It's nice to know I sound sufficiently smug to pass as a mod :). Although it would be even nicer if certain people stopped insisting on spelling my name without the second o...

I can't believe you guys volunteer for this job. Condolences, not congratulations, are in order.

all they have to do is ignore, they don't, which shows that this is rhe part of the job they like.

People volunteer for modhood? Is that how is works? I thought they were selected after gaining a reputation for solid diplomacy play and showing the unusual trait of talking sense on the forum.

@santa, you posted on a congratulatory thread for me, I look like an jerk if I ignore you, and frankly, I don't want people to hate me for trying to make the site run smoothly. I know you don't always agree with what I do, but I do promise you I'm not going to do anything that will harm anyone's ability to play games on the site unless they are cheating in game (why I prefer the silence over docking points). Additionally, we're not allowed to mute players or threads, and we take care to read as many threads and replies as possible to make sure we don't miss requests posted in obscure threads or bug reports made by people who don't contact us the correct way.

@Putin, appreciated, but honestly I don't mind helping out a site that exists simply to let people play a game for free.

@Octavious, we are approached based on reasons like the ones you mentioned, and then have the option to agree to volunteer our time to moderator duties, obviously people are free to, and have turned down the offer to become moderators.

I posted on your congratulatory post because you were classless enough to talk shit after you used mod powers to silence someone. Sorry, I don't think you deserve congratulations

but we've both made our points and obviously this isn't going anywhere. Have fun in your new position of authority.

@jmo, congrats.

@OctaviOus, why the hell do you spell your name that way? I realize that you're the forum's stereotypical superBrit, but there's really no reason I can see for adding the O to things that never had the O in the first place.

Here are the expectations I have of the mods:

-They never let their personal opinions affect their modding. If they are unable to stay impartial, they are expected to excuse themselves.

-They act, in general, more maturely than the average member on the Forum (note, this sets the bar rather low).

Mods do not punish members for Forum activity (other than a few specific rules). Players are free to harass and abuse and criticize mods as much as they like (which I do not have a problem with); however, that means that mods are allowed to freely act on the forum as well. We try to chose mods that can handle themselves properly, but it isn't necessarily a requirement, per se.

"...this sets the bar rather low..." Well said....I agree, and enjoy dragging the curve down for the class.

"...Players are free to harass and abuse and criticize mods as much as they like..." And we *should* endeavor to do this to keep them sharp and ensure they are maintaining mental stability and objectiveness.

ABUSE MODS DAILY! Do *Your* part to keep this site fair and well run! Kick 'em while they're up, kick 'em while they're down - just make sure YOU kick a mod today!

Good job, Abge! You rat bast'ed!!

Fuck the mods and Admins!!! Just kidding, I actually appreciate everything the Mods and Admins do here on the site, whether it is something I agree with or not(only once or twice I think I have disagreed with a decision I believe), but couldn't resist feeding krellin this once. Congrats jmo on the promotion :)

You aren't feeding a troll. Butthead, you are honing the sharp....er.....with of the mods.

Cast you vile wickedness on the self-clapimed arbiters of righteousness!

Slander your favorite Mod today with due haste!! Get on with it, you skalywags!

@ ghug

I'm the forum's what?!?

All names have various spellings. I'm aware that Octavius is most common (a bit 100 BC, perhaps...) but like most people in this world I didn't choose my own name and I'm quite happy with the o. If you want to blame anyone, blame my mum. But then, of course, honour demands I'd have to beat you ;)

@jmo

Out of interest, how many people have turned down modhood? And how long did they last before being banned after doing so? ;)

"like most people in the world I didn't choose my own name..."

What? Seriously? Octavious is your REAL name? Like in real life? For real? No shit.

At what age could you pronounce your name?

Some kid I work with's middle name is Leonidas, which amuses me, as a Laconophile.

@ Putin: "At what age could you pronounce your name?"

How do you know he can pronounce it now?

You don't have to like the Mods to understand that they seem to have got their act together and are working better as a team, but would it not make sense if the rules together with the punishment for transgressions were clearly written down they wouldn't have to make arbitrary off the cuff decisions that seem to be aimed at winding other Members up, even if that is not the aim it can be the result.
2 examples involved Sargmarcher, 1 was docking him 300 and another was allowing him to transgress the rules without banning him for two years. It just makes it look like Mods are making it up as they go along, recently abge docked Krellin points and then changed his mind and silenced him for 24 hours. To make matters worse he then made some arrogant comment when changing his decision, why do that?
Humility, especially for Mods, can be a beautiful beautiful thing ..... it displays a touch of class.