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Hate our election system? Blame federalism. States rights turns everything to shit.

Hate the Soviet Union? Blame communism. No rights turns everything to shit.

@Putin

Why don't you like State's Rights?

At least you guys can not vote.

Because that implies rights.

Because it empowers slavers, segregationists and Jon Husted. Whats to like?

Rights for whom? Certainly not voters.

You cant whine about the shitshow in Florida every cycle and fawn over state sovereignty. Obviously Florida cantbe trusted to tie its own shoes.

@Putin

Does it though? Would those things not have happened at the Federal level?

Don't be silly, abgemacht, powerful centralized governments always respect human rights.

I doubt it. Floridians might put up with this, dont bet on the whole country submitting to gop voter suppression.

When have states ever been these beacons of liberty? All you have is rhetoric, try a record for once.

At least an election run by the federal government would have some degree of consistency. Uniform voting procedures, methods, oversight, registration. There's a lot to be said for a system that doesn't have fifty different deadlines, hours, and ways of regulating an election. Talk about bureaucracy.

Didn't a number of states end slavery before the federal government did?

3ndWhtie -- It make s you a fucking MORON if you are seriously topo stupid to seee the difference between candidates..

Your fucking lame attempt to get +1's for being too stupid to make a decision makes you a -1 Billion for being a fucking moron.

Slavery really isn't an issue in this election last I heard. Maybe I'm wrong, but Lincoln's long dead.

And? Which of those had substantial African populations? States rights has always been the clarion call of reactionaries.

Voter suppression isnt.

I really don't understand what you're saying. Do you think we wouldn't have had slavery if we had no States rights?

It would have ended sooner, for sure. Are you trying to claim slavers didnt hide behind federalism?

Too lazy to read all the posts. But here's some points I wanted to add:
1. Every states should adopt the voting system of Washington and Oregon. Here, they mail us the ballots and a very nice booklet full of information regarding each candidates -not just presidential, but state legislature, court justices and policy options also. Its so convenient, b/c we have no lines to stand in and we get to take out time in voting and vote with much consideration -we get to sit at home and google each candidates in case we have questions.

2. I actually believe Obama is capable. Not the best, and often with failures deriving from inexperience and mistakes. But he is, as someone said in one of the posts, the lesser evil for sure. Plus, liberal policies do stimulate the economy quite effectively, albeit not free from corruption. Only if the corruption and the deficit can be addressed, I'm more than willing to attach myself to the liberals for my life. And hell no not the conservatives unless they scrap the idiotic notion of trickle down economy or flat tax or the low tax-rates on the wealthy. And that isn't to mention the loopholes already in place...

Krellin, what the fuck are you talking about?

@Putin

No, I'm not saying that. They certainly did. I'm saying they would have hidden behind something else if they had to. It wouldn't have made a difference because 1) most people either didn't care about or didn't like Blacks and 2) it made a lot of people very wealthy and powerful. If it doesn't federalism, it would have been something else.

"It would have ended sooner, for sure. Are you trying to claim slavers didnt hide behind federalism?"
No one is arguing that slavers didn't hide behind federalism. What we're arguing is that slavery was a reality, and it was northern states - acting on their states rights - that started the movement to abolish it. That is historical fact. That "it would have ended sooner" is pure hypothesis. An equally valid hypothesis might be that without northern states pushing abolition it would have lasted much longer.

Putin you favor centralization? I would have never guessed. Tell me about how vladimir putin is respecting human rights in the world today?

Siccy, I say nice things about you and you act like a dick. Never would have guessed.

It's one thing to advocate for human rights. It's another to advocate for human rights in one country and against it in another.

@32nd Whtie Line....jackass is trying to take some "noble" stance because he is above politics....he can't vote...blah blah blah....Fuck him. After 6 years of campaigning by Obama and Romney if thei JACKASS is too fuckign stupi to see a difference...and then BROADCASTS how fucking stupid he is....fuck him. Don't give thsi idiotic moron the time of day. FUCK you stupid "un-decided" voters.. Seriously...if you are undecided by now....you are just a fucking RETARD~!