@Nelhybel - That would hopefully be the eventual conclusion. At least restore the only task to being sound money in the near term though.

Sic, it's not like Bachmann knows Libya is in Africa or even that Soviet Union is not a rising threat anymore.

Tie between R. Lee Wrights Jimmy McMillan Stewart Alexander Herman Cain
because they have facial hair and we need a president who has facial hair again.

I'm from Québec.

Pffffffffffff!

oh wait, after looking up the transcript I guess it was just a... brain-fart, gaffe whatever. I heard an excert on the radio and thought he really didnt know what libya was (at all, not just for a few seconds)

I dont know if michelle bachmann knows what continent we are on. seriously, I wish someone would ask her. I have watched a bunch of ol dinterviews with her on.... bill something. hes a kindof famous liberal late night comedian. bill mayor? mayer? meijer? meyer? something., anyway if you havnt seen them (bill mahr thats it!, a gaffe myself) they are.... I would say funny, but she is an elected official so its horrifying

I genuinely believe Herman Cain would be one of the strongest Presidents of the modern era, if elected. His no-nonsense method of tackling issues would bring back strong Regan-era foreign policy, and get our fiscal house in order.

I assume your comment refers to his interview with The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. This is a newspaper, and he paused to provide the optimum answer to be quoted when the paper was printed. When quoted in a document, they won't type [pause], as if they're issuing stage directions.

That point aside, the media has been the only person to say he doesn't know what Libya is, trying to read some sort of idiocy into his comments. This man is highly intelligent, and I just don't buy that.

no I'm reffering to this. I heard audio of this so it is legit

HERMAN CAIN: I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason. (thinks) Um, nope. That's a different one.

HERMAN CAIN: I gotta go back to see, uh................. got all this stuff twirling around in my head.

Oh, he certainly fared better than Perry who couldn't remember the third ministry he would close if he won. Cain at least knew USA supported rebels against Qaddafi in Libya after he focused himself. However, that's something of an obligatory international policy minimum a regular citizen should know, hardly something worth praising for a presidential candidate.

You're both talking about the same thing, that's a transcript of the interview to TMJS. There's also a video of it.

Sorry but Cain is a total moron.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/herman-cain-im-not-supposed-to-know-anything-about-foreign-policy/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+OTB+%28Outside+The+Beltway+%7C+OTB%29

actually, here's the link again, cleaned up

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/herman-cain-im-not-supposed-to-know-anything-about-foreign-policy/

Oh heres the video. after watching it, he sort of seems like a fool (a politician after all) but it was not nearly the fuck-up that the (cant belive I'm about to say this) liberal media... led me to believe

@Cachimbo That's OK. You can cross the border and vote in Chicago as long as you vote Democrat.

whoops, here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAGGpK7bSWc

@Putin - not sure if you're sarcastic about Ron Paul or not but your list makes me think he is who I'd vote for.

Of course, I can't vote in the US and I lam largely uninformed on the candidates. I do know that there likely isn't anyone who can salvage that country.

I would. But your democrats are like our conservatives...

Putin's list is what Paul would like to do. However, it seems to me he's gradually selling himself to social conservatives a bit after bit to gain some real foothold in the GOP so it's not like he would really get far with it. Of course that's just an outside view on the subject.

How is he selling himself to social conservatives? He's had the same position on social issues for forty years, and it's not the view social conservatives like anyway.

Thank you for providing the link, Eden.

I respectfully disagree regarding Cain. The man's life experiences and successes provide enough evidence regarding a great deal of intelligence on his part.

In addition, while Cain's responses do present an apparent lack of foreign policy knowledge, they actually are quite proper and truthful answers. The reality is, you can campaign now and say whatever the hell you want; but at the end of the day, unless you're totally nuts, you're going to be doing what the experts and military generals on the ground tell you is best.

We saw this with President Obama. He campaigned on the "pull out, pull out, pull out!" mantra, but as soon as he took office and began to consult with the experts, he realized that his plans were not feasible and had to take a different course of action.

@ eden
tangent
how do you clean up a link?

"However, it seems to me he's gradually selling himself to social conservatives a bit after bit to gain some real foothold in the GOP so it's not like he would really get far with it."

Paul has always been a social conservative and still is. He flip flopped on DADT recently, but he's against gay rights. He supports DOMA and the Protection of Marriage Act.

"He's had the same position on social issues for forty years, and it's not the view social conservatives like anyway."

Depends on the issue. On drugs, certainly not. But he's 100% "pro-life" and a gay hater.

"Of course, I can't vote in the US and I lam largely uninformed on the candidates. I do know that there likely isn't anyone who can salvage that country."

Wasn't really that sarcastic. Why are the Canadians on here so rightwing? Mafia excepted.

"@Putin: Paul doesn't want to militarize the border with Mexico... he is the only candidate who doesn't..."

Wrong. http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/border-security/

Paul voted for the Mexican fence.

http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U4RgUh5G38

"A: I don't like putting the burden on our businessmen to be the policemen. That means he has to be policing activity. But I have a strong position on immigration. I don't think that we should give amnesty and they become voters. But I do think we should deal with our borders. One way that I would suggest that we could do it is pay less attention to the borders between Afghanistan and Iraq and Pakistan and bring our troops home and deal with the border. But why do we pay more attention to the borders overseas and less attention to the borders here at home? We now have a mess on the borders, and it has a lot more to do with it than just immigration, because we're financing some of this militarism against the drug dealers on the borders right now to the tune of over $1 billion. And there is a mess down there, but it's much bigger than just the immigration problem."

And RP has strong ties with the minutemen.

So Ron Paul wants to protect the border and this is bad? Further more, there is no question that Ron Paul is a social conservative. He has said he does not believe in evolution.

What makes him unique is that he doesn't want to force his beliefs on others. That makes him, well, awesome. I dislike him for other reasons, pertaining to national security / foreign policy.

I didn't say it was good or bad (although if you want to know, yeah I think allying with racist anti-immigrant vigilantes and promoting a wall fence that results in more border deaths is bad). I'm saying he's a fraud of a libertarian and most people don't even know what he stands for.

"What makes him unique is that he doesn't want to force his beliefs on others."

Sure he does. How is he going to implement these libertarian policies? Magic?

How a doctor can not believe in evolution is beyond me. How an OB/GYN can oppose abortion as he does is beyond incredible.

Hmm. Why would being an OB/GYN influence your moral views on the personhood of infants?