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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
19 Aug 08 UTC
Need a sitter...urgent!
I need a sitter urgent...starting from the 25th to the 30th.
Please reply below, with complete email info.
Best to be a reputed player, and willing to spend lots of time in this.
I've unfortunately got many games running at the moment.
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DNA117 (1535 D)
22 Aug 08 UTC
New way of communicating
Who would be interested in using Skype in games for communicating with each other?
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monomorphism (100 D)
22 Aug 08 UTC
How you do propose a draw?
I believe the game "Free Conquest" is drawn, as Turkey controls 17, but the other players have set up a stalemate line.

How can we propose/vote on this?
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Alan3 (1097 D)
21 Aug 08 UTC
Please draw the game Bah
Link: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4755&msgCountry=Global

Russia is requesting the draw.
Turkey & Germany will agree below
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arthurmklo (879 D)
22 Aug 08 UTC
not finalizing a crime?
in the game "()" (http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4635)
France is saying that me (Turkey) is not finalizing because im losing and trying to drag the game on, and that I need to show some sportsmanship. Now since that I didnt finalize, he is not taking the win until im dead

(details within)
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richo (100 D)
21 Aug 08 UTC
Points per supply centre
Is there any other split of points available? Like winner takes all or second gets their bet back?
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Saad (100 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
Two accounts
Well I told my brother about phpDiplomacy, and he's joined it. But would this be counted as multi-accounting since we have the same IP, I'm also in the same game as him so would this account to multi-accounts?
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Blackheath Wanderer (0 DX)
21 Aug 08 UTC
Moscow Mule 3 Super Fast Game
Takes less time to play than it took to secure South Ossetia from the Georgians :)

Sign up if you dare!
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amathur2k (100 D)
21 Aug 08 UTC
question regarding convoy rules
Hi if a fleet convoying an army with support from x units (other than the one being convoyed) is attacked by x enemy units, the convoy should still go through right ?
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vasvla (1220 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
Draw request
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5035

I'm England. Russia, France and Italy agreed on global, so they should write here about that, too.
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Oxim (280 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
Support move question
Given the following situation:
Eng S Bre
Bre S Pic - Par
Pic - Par
(Enemy) Gas - Bre

Does this cut the support from Brest?
Can you cut any support moves regardless of the number of support holds this unit gets?

I just had this situation in the game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4720
and I actually expected to get Paris.
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Russiprocal (100 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
A sorta high-point game.
The additive russiprocal. Cause I'm so clever. I believe it's a 102-pt game. Come join!
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Talus Proteus (1961 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
Frustrated Pre-game phase
What happens if the time limit for your Pre-Game phase expires and not enough people have joined? Does the game still start with less people and give others the option of bidding to enter? Or does it wait for more players?
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flashman (2274 D(G))
17 Aug 08 UTC
Canute et al...
Anyone spotted his new accounts yet?

My experience as a mod elsewhere says he'll be back asap and messing up games.
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
19 Aug 08 UTC
Experienced Game
This is a game for players who have played 15 or more games on this site.
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valoishapsburg (314 D)
19 Aug 08 UTC
Strange Posts
in the following game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4677

I took over Germany and when looking through the conversation with england there was never any asking for an alliance, no actual conversation. They merely state their orders. Is this usual?
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hermanobrown (925 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
Time between the turns
I have one doubt. I am in several games where the phase is 24h, but sometimes the turn ends before the time. Ok, I´ve posted my orders, but how does it work?
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fidel (886 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
Retreats and build phases count for going CD?
How long does it take to go CD?

I am playing a game (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5064) where France didn't play for 3 days now (he didn't answer any messages either) , but he has not go CD yet, so there is no opportunity for other people to take it (he still has 5 sc's, and could have 6 or 7 had he played).
The phases of these 3 days were Autumn, Retreats and Builds 1904 phases. He has been attacked and has lost a sc, but as he has not retreated, he has nothing to build and so he has the sign of "completed orders" from scratch on that phase.

As in that game England was CD almost from scratch, Germany has all the opportunities to grow, and so, I was forced to move into him too early, which is not so good strategically.

I wonder if retreats and builds count for going CD, and if they do, what happens if the country have no orders to enter. I suggest that even when there are no orders to enter, the player should say "Ok" or something, so he can be counted as a step to go CD if he doesn't.

What do you say?
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Iidhaegn (111 D)
18 Aug 08 UTC
Obligations of the Player
Recently I've noticed this trend in the forums where I suppose there was some discussion earlier where a majority (or a distinct camp at least) was formed under the agreement that "if a player has an opportunity to undoubtedly win a game, s/he must do so." Please discuss.
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DeliciousWolf (112 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
No Fleet Builds 2 - Needs More Players!
With just 7 hours to go the newest variant of No Fleet Builds has just two players - please check your messages for your invite and password!
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cteno4 (100 D)
20 Aug 08 UTC
Convoys involving the Black Sea
I've noticed that the Black Sea has some strange convoy options, particularly when convoying from Bulgaria. It says that I could conceivably convoy an army from Bulgaria to Greece or Smyrna when there is a fleet in the Aegean Sea; when there is also a fleet in the Ionian it presents the options of Albania, Apulia, Naples, and Tunis.

While those other fleets could legally perform the convoy, they should not appear on the list of possible convoy destinations for the Black Sea fleet.

This bizarre property of convoys involving the Black Sea fleet seems to only apply when the convoy is initiated out of Constantinople or Bulgaria; convoys starting from elsewhere along the Black Sea coast are only shown as convoyable to other territories along the Black Sea.

Is there some way this glitch could be fixed? I imagine a similarly confusing situation exists in the Heligoland Bight-North Sea-Skagerrak-Sweden-Baltic Sea-Denmark region as well as perhaps aroung Saint Petersburg with its two coastlines.
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cteno4 (100 D)
12 Aug 08 UTC
Multi-Accounting accusation
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5053
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5041

I accuse Tohr and GrandeBiller of multi-accounting, and suspect that the other five players in both of these games are also run by the same person. It seems that GrandeBiller has been creating games (and players) to give his account a higher win rate, to win points, and to screw with other games.

The two players are now together in nine games, seven of which are still going and some of which are with legitimate other players.

Can we ban these accounts and restart some of the games they are in? It's a real bother to deal with cheaters in a Diplomacy game, particularly when they are assigned neighboring countries as they are in http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5115 (France/Germany). If you're in another affected game, go ahead and post to reply with YOUR thoughts.

It's further suspicious when in that last-mentioned game the two players are the only two to have finalized orders, and they both did it within minutes of each other. Currently no player on the board has had any communication with them (except for possibly them with each other).
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daggertail88 (332 D)
19 Aug 08 UTC
possible multi-account/metagaming?
this game makes no sense
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5011
i took over a CD england in spring of 1904. i am able to make a move or two without anything happening. after I take some centers from russia, russia, turkey, and italy all ally against me. Turkey is clearly able to take numerous amounts of supply centers from either one, but he is just moving around them to get at me. and i was nowhere near harming turkey or winning the game. Anyone's opinion?
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Caddy (100 D)
19 Aug 08 UTC
Is this a bug ??
Why does Germany have 4 Armies on the board ??? They only have 3 supply centers.
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warsprite (152 D)
18 Aug 08 UTC
Why do people muti-account?
What is the point? If you have to win by cheating you must be a very bad player. I've seen players like this when playing face to face games, they are like little kids that cannot stand to lose. Why even play if you cannot stomic to lose.
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ldrut (674 D)
18 Aug 08 UTC
Question on retreats
Dumb question time

When a unit is forced to retreat is "Disband" always an available option? The rules seem to suggest that it should not be. I need to know for one of my games and I have no idea since, as far as I recall, every retreat I have had on this site has also been a forced disband.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
13 Aug 08 UTC
Update on Leagues
An update on the happenings in the Grand flashy & Chrispee diplomacy leagues is below
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Chrispminis (916 D)
13 Aug 08 UTC
Mhm, we've been going through the many issues in the model so far. We've considered a possible trickle down demotion scheme. But a greater possibility is perhaps to restart the league system from scratch, and seeding leagues based purely on points or TheGhostmaker's Elo-style rating scheme. If we were to do this, then it's likely the first season would be chalked up as a test and it's results essentially nullified.

Any thoughts?
krokodil (823 D)
13 Aug 08 UTC
I'm up for playing in whatever level you guys decide to put me in! I like Xapi's pyramid idea though.
I'll send you an email now Ghosty.
Xapi (194 D)
13 Aug 08 UTC
Well, I think there are two possible ways to handle it:

1: Start from scratch - Rank the players based on meh

2: Take the first season as an actual first season. The League A players would become Premier League Players (minus the descends) the League B players would be in the League A, and new players (including the shortlisted ones) would start from League B downwards, regardless of their allegded skill/ranking/points/whatever.

I think and attempt to mix these two solutions (as the first that has been proposed) will most likely be flawed.

(meh = whatever you think)
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Ok, after a re-think based on some of the concerns expressed the following will occur:

Applications to play in the league will remain open until midday GMT, 31st of August.

I shall, at that time, send an e-mail to everyone who has applied, in which will act as a reminder and comfirmation of desire to participate. People will then have untill the following Sunday to respond.

Those who have responded will be seeded on Elo-rating, and placed into leagues with approximately equal ability in each league. Then the top 7 performers will enter the premier league, the next 7 league A and so on.
thewonderllama (100 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Just to be clear, do people already playing in the leagues need to reapply?
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
I have already added all of you to the list, so no, you need not reapply.

I would be thankful if you could announce that in Game B
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
League B, rather
flashman (2274 D(G))
14 Aug 08 UTC
I am grateful for the work you are putting in here.
ditto what flashman said really great job
Xapi (194 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
I agree with your decision.

In terms of time, does this mean the new league would begin earlier? It seems with that schedule, and with the results of the "Beta League" not being important, there's no need to wait until november, the league could easily start on mid-September.

A suggestion:

You guys should make a new thread for inscriptions, with a list and people adding themselves to it. It would ease your own work of going through this thread discerning the discussion from the applications. This thread could be left for organization questions/suggestions.

If you agree with the idea, I can do it and moderate it so that the list is actualized n' stuff.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
I already have the list copied up, and am reading everything, so lets leave it all in one thread.

I shall get the league starting in the second full week of September.
Xapi (194 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Great!
Jaco (100 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
i'd like to join this league. How can i be in?

i read the therad, but i didn't understand the final system.

thanks.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Send an email to me (see profile) you will then later receive an email, on 31st August, which is just to check your still there and interested. Then you will get, a week or so later, another email saying which group you are in etc. etc. The first season will have all groups equal, and your position will determine your league for the next season.
Jaco (100 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Ok. Perfect. Thank you.
Chrispminis (916 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
If we get enough interest, we should consider a Xapi-style league model. Why don't you all advertise the league in your games?

I'm assuming bets will always be 5 points, WTA. Can I propose a 25 hour phase length? This lets people who only get on once every 24 hours to complete their orders reliably.

As well, what happens to run-off applicants, say if we get 33 applicants, and so have 5 extra. Should we keep sign-ups open until 2 more players can be found?

MadMarx (36299 D(G))
14 Aug 08 UTC
This sounds interesting, though how long does this run? Hope this isn't a repeat question as I haven't read everything on this thread...

Regardless, at least put me down as a possible backup if you need a few more people!
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Thanks Marx, it is five games per season, played at two at a time roughly, so its going to be three consecutive games, basically, then a short recess before the next season.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Madmarx, can you please email me with your user name in the email, since I shall need emails for password disclosure.
Rait (10151 D(S))
15 Aug 08 UTC
ok, I will give myself up as well, Chris knows my MSN address
This all sounds great, though I sure would hate to lose they lead I have in League B. I'm sure I'll end up with a fine seeding though.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
15 Aug 08 UTC
Here I am, signing up for the League.
Chrispminis (916 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
Great! We might have enough players for 5 leagues at this rate. I think we just hit 28 entrants.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
27 xgong was in league B, so that means that he was already entered.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
15 Aug 08 UTC
I hope this doesn't crack up like the League of Nations did...
sean (3490 D(B))
15 Aug 08 UTC
wow ghostkiller, great work.
yes im in of course. ive been away stuck on a jungle island of late but im back home soon.

this league should be ok.
all php mini hitlers have just been cleaned out by our multi headed dragon slayer kestas.

so we are going to continue with tthe A and B leagues and add a C league under it and if we get enough players a premier league on top. but it looks like we wont get enough of the big guins to make up that one maybe.

yoiu have done some work rating all the players on this ELo system? could you post it here, im sure we are all interested to see how and where we stand once dip points are taken out.
yep im ready for game 3 league A anytime from august 22nd-.

thanks again GK
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
"ghostkiller" ahem... lol

Sean, Chris and I, after a lengthy discussion, have decided, since we have very large increase in player numbers, and have only had a short trial, to abandon the first season from now, and instead to make a group stage type season, and then based on performances there make the leagues again.

I shall make another thread for the Elo list since you request it.
Centurian (3257 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
How will this Groupstage work? Weak players and strong players in the same group? OR will you just go down you elo list and slot the participants in order?
Chrispminis (916 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
It will be weak and strong players in the same groups in a mix based upon Elo ratings such that each group has similar average skill. The second season's league standings will be based on performance in the group stages.
MarekP (12864 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
I am interested, if you still have a place for me.

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laurence208y (3405 D)
19 Aug 08 UTC
Draw request for 12 hr/term game
Me and Turkey at 17 supplies each
turkey will post below
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4808
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
19 Aug 08 UTC
DRAW REQUEST for NFL Fans
Hello Kestas,

please, can you draw the game "NFL Fans" - http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4874

After a long and tiresome fight, and an even longer and public discussion :), we've agreed to a spectacular 5-way draw :)
The other players will confirm shotly.

Thank you.
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Uncle Willy (221 D)
19 Aug 08 UTC
Will someone please take over this CD France??
Myself (England) and Russia have been battling against France and Italy for most of the game. Now, after we have made some advances, France has went CD and Italy is just going to end the game by taking France's SCs. Can someone please join this game to prevent Italy from winning? I will move out of Brest and enter in an alliance with the new France against Italy.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=4887
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