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SYnapse (0 DX)
23 Oct 13 UTC
Was life better under Labour or Tories?
To be honest I find it difficult to decide between life under Blair or life under Cameron. I have been more prosperous under Cameron but that's due to my own career, and I do remember Blair's regime being a bit intrusive, but maybe that's just false memory.
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krellin (80 DX)
23 Oct 13 UTC
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Portrait of a CEO
Found this profile in LinkedIN and wanted to share - there are *so* many of you that operate under this delusion that CEO's sit on their asses sucking down caviar and drinking campaign while figuring out ways to stick it to the little guy. If you've ever known one, or know the child of a CEO, you know a guy that is never home, always on the go. THIS guy in this profile is invovled in about 20 different companies...helping other people make it int he world. Yeah...what a bastard!
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Yakoska (496 D)
23 Oct 13 UTC
What does...
Parameter 'fromTerrID' set to invalid value '4'

Mean? To the best of my knowledge I am setting a proper order.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
22 Oct 13 UTC
VARIANTS
You guys ever play the variants on vdip? What do you think are the best ones?
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Battalion (177 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Capture Your Capital
I once saw someone refer to a modern map game whereby everyone was given a target on the other side of the map that they had to get to and hold. Does anyone know how this was set up (e.g. which did each country have to aim for?) and would anyone be interested in trying to set a game of it up?
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
23 Oct 13 UTC
Does anyone work in Wall Street?
I started a stock market simulator and am really getting into it. I'd like to learn a lot more to be able to trade some of my own funds once I'm more comfortable. Any recommended reading for someone looking to learn more about investing, chart reading, etc.? There is so much out there I can't tell what is garbage being sold and what is good.
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VirtualBob (224 D)
17 Oct 13 UTC
October Ghost Ratings
Any word on when?
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Jackinyourcities (100 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
New member
Hi I am a new member as the title suggests I have played a few f2f games and some on another site is there anything that's different about this site?
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2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
22 Oct 13 UTC
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Bods out of control (NSFW)
Post pics of great bods here.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
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Moms out of control
This is the kind of threat dirty old draugnar wants right?
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
22 Oct 13 UTC
trolls out of control
I get wanting to get approval on the humour of troll threads... Don't get me wrong. But... (see inside)
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grking (100 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
What to play next?
have just finished a Civ V marathon, and fear I will be disappointed by anything that follows. Any recommendations?
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President Eden (2750 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
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yj let's make porn
the other thread got locked before i could say it

let's do this studmuffin <3
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
Facebook Policy: Nudity is bad, violent murder is fine
Can anyone see the logic in Facebook's latest policy decision?
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Sky Captain (453 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
Carmaggedon
Open Worlds game. 2 day move time. Open communication. Come have fun. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=127910
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grking (100 D)
18 Oct 13 UTC
The JSF
Could someone explain the concept and justification of the JSF for me? I've kinda always viewed the whole program as the epitome of military waste, because (as far as I know, please enlighten me) is seems like the Pentagon is replacing perfectly effective planes (the A-10, F22, F18), all specifically suited to their niche with ultra-expensive planes that do the jobs of all models stated above, only at a more generalized and mediocre level.
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jenspo (1242 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
invite me to DeNA wolrdDip game
I wanna play in the DeNA game.
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Brewmachine (104 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
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Looking for some Good Old Fashioned Erotica
Hi guys, I've been really bored of the internet lately, so I figured I'd create a thread for all of our favorite pornography. Feel free to post your favorite videos and sites, and don't hold back--if you like really interesting stuff, let us know. I hope that we can create a great pornographic community on Webdiplomacy.net, and maybe even make some of our own!
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tendmote (100 D(B))
19 Oct 13 UTC
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A Salute to SplitDiplomat and TheCzech
Let's salute SplitDiplomat and TheCzech - these players don't just get into politely arranged, uptight, evenly matched Ghost Ranking games. They get in there and embrace the chaos against anyone and everyone, risking freak loss at the hands of any old noob and damage to their GR. Respect!
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VirtualBob (224 D)
30 Sep 13 UTC
New anon 36-hour WTA gunboat for reliable players
Any interest in a new anon 36-hour WTA gunboat (or two)? Looking for reasonable buy-in, reasonable skill level and extremely reliable players (few/no resigns).
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jenspo (1242 D)
22 Oct 13 UTC
join the live gunboat game now.
Fast Europe-138
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semck83 (229 D(B))
18 Oct 13 UTC
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Tea partiers above average at science
For a fun, completely statistically insignificant, easy-to-misinterpret, and unprocessed statistical datum, see this post by a Yale Law professor on his surprise at finding that being in the tea party correlates positively with scientific knowledge. Should be good for some fun discussion.

http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2013/10/15/some-data-on-education-religiosity-ideology-and-science-comp.html?lastPage=true
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
20 Oct 13 UTC
A Salute to Sbyvl and TC
Let's salute Sbyvl and Tettleton's Chew - these players don't just get into politely arranged, uptight, evenly matched forum debates. They get in there and embrace the chaos against anyone and everyone, risking freak loss at the hands of any old noob and damage to their discriminatory half-brains. Respect!
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
21 Oct 13 UTC
This makes the USA look good
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-upholding-ban-of-aboriginal-groups-at-oilsands-hearing-1.2127523

If you pay any attention to the way indigenous groups are treated, you'll know this really doesn't come as a huge surprise.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
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Who to silence next
How about the next person to post one of these threads which is knocking actual diplomacy related threads (yes we actually have a few of these) off the front page.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
20 Oct 13 UTC
Is using the word 'fuck' a problem to anyone?
Does anyone give a **** about it? What does it express? I usually use it in a funny way if I use it, around people who don't mind... But who does mind?

Discuss :P
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Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Intellect has nothing to do with it. I would agree that not knowing when it is appropriate to use the word can affect someone's advancement career wise and in life in general, but the use of the term often reflects on a person's past experiences. My boss is a retired Marine Colonel. He and I throw it around with each other all the time and my direct reports know they are free to use it with me. But one of the project leads is a devout "Christian" and wouldn't dream of using swear words of any sort. My boss' boss reports to the president/owner of the company, but he worked his way up through the ranks in a manufacturing facility and cam swear in appropriate situations as well. Poker nights at my place are huge swear fests.

But I actually find that, often, both high and low IQs use it and it is the average IQ that finds it offensive. The average, church going sheeple think there is something wrong with a word such that it can't be used in any context. These same people are the ones who believe in Adam & Eve and God creating the world in 7 days. They *don't* believe in evolution and they think only their view of the world could possibly be correct. So the ones who would never ever say "fuck" are the mediocre minds who can't think for themselves.

The real irony is these devout believers seem to forget Ecclesiastes: To every thing there is a season...
krellin (80 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Maniac - that doesn't upset me at all. What *does* upset me is all the disengenuous, lying bastards around webdip who think that nobody anywhere *ever* uses "nigger" in any acceptable context, which is just complete and utter bullshit, and indicative of someone who lives inside a *very* tiny bubble.

So my entire post was to piggy-back on the "fuck" discussion and tie in to old discussions about "nigger" in which the loonies with their extremist views on who can say what when and who can *never* say something ever were in full parade.
Devonian (1010 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Draug, It sounds like you are in a corporate culture that embraces it. But, I don't think that is typical. At a minimum, you acknowledge that your bosses boss uses some restraint, just like I my theory predicts. The higher up you go, the more restraint seems to be used in most organizations.
krellin (80 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
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@Draug - "To everything there is a season"...does that include ass rape? :P Just curious... (Note: Please question was submitted by Putin via PM, and I am simply passing on his request. He's feeling shy today.)
krellin (80 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
@Devonian - if you are under the impression that holders of "high office" - be it corporate or politics or whatever - do not use "fuck" among friends, you are ridiculous. But I'm not surprised that you would have such a naive point of view -- after all, most Tea Party members are illiterate troglodytes, and all CEO's are born with a silver spoon in their mouth and are prim and proper elitists, according to the average uneducated, narrow-minded American who thinks "The Voice" is high entertainment... when the truth is, most CEO's and politicians, etc are just people that worked hard to achieve great things, no different than you (could be if you worked hard...)

Just because someone's a CEO and a multi-millionaire doesn't mean they don't drop the f-bomb. .

Steve Jobs and the f-bomb.: http://fussyaboutdetails.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/fuck-michael-dell/

Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Devonian - I already agreed about that. But please don't equate IQ with position. The shrub was am utter fucking moron compared to ma y people I associate with and high payed sports and movie stars aren't exactly known for having hi IQs. Position says nothing of intelligence, only of ability to influence.
Devonian (1010 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Krellin, The reporting of that quote actually supports my theory. If it was common, it would not have been news. I never said it is never used, the higher up the food chain you go. I said the it is less common, and/or more likely to be kept "among friends".
Devonian (1010 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Draug, you might be right. It may not be a good indicator of intelligence.
krellin (80 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
@Devonian -- OK, so you also admit that gun violence (re mass shootings) are not much of a problem, since they get much sensational reporting. You also admit that acts of racism (re supposedly Trayvon Martin) are not very common, sense they get such sensational reporting, etc.

I'll actually buy in to your argument, that we report Jobs dropping the f-bomb because it is not widely **heard** by CEO's. But it is ridiculously naive to think that CEO's don't use such language. Do they use it commonly, like a construction worker might? Probably not, because it's not part of the "job site" language, but I'd suggest that you haven't been around many people in a corporate setting if you think everyone wearing a button-down shirt and a tie only use pure and wholesome language.

I'll start by putting Draug and myself and a few other shirt-n-tie/corporate types around here, who are pretty free with their opinions and use of language.
President Eden (2750 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
It seems less intelligent to assume that people who reject a cultural norm like 'swear words are bad' are unintelligent than it seems to assume that they aren't.

If we're going to find a correlation between intelligence and choice of words, then I'd think the degree of variety in someone's vocabulary is a better indicator than whatever individual choices are made. Of course this is still troublesome for reasons that make the entire conversation null anyway (what's intelligence, exactly? and how is vocabulary an indicator of it at all?) -- but if you can find some starting point for those questions, then looking to variety instead of specific words would be more advisable.
Invictus (240 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
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This got really stupid really fast. Don't see what swearing has to do with gun violence...
Devonian (1010 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Krellin, You said: "But it is ridiculously naive to think that CEO's don't use such language." I am not naive. That's why I didn't say that.

You said: "Do they use it commonly, like a construction worker might? Probably not, because it's not part of the "job site" language," That's my point. CEO's probably use it less.
Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
"I don't consider it to be taboo, but I do think it is a good indication of the person's intelligence and/or class. Rarely do you hear intelligent people using it. But it is common among the working class and less the intelligent. "

So are you reversing your stance on it's use being a sign of intelligence or class? If not, then the CEO's who use it, even in private, must not be intelligent or have any class.

Oh, and to help provide some clarity on my situation, the company I work for is rather flat. My boss reports to the director of our business group and he reports to the President, CEO, and owner of the company (the largest and oldest privately owned software company in the world). So that put's the guy at the top of the promotion food chain more than willing to drop an f-bomb when it is called for and appropriate. Does that make him unintelligent or low class?
steephie22 (182 D(S))
20 Oct 13 UTC
Anyone else LOLed because Draugnar says church going sheeple are average IQ?

(I mean, surely they can't be... Right?)
Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Steephie - Try again. I said a very specific type of believer was of average IQ. They need someone else to tell them what to think. They are sheeple. There are believers who also wish to learn for themselves and don't reject a concept just because their preacher or some old guy in Rome says they should.
Devonian (1010 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Draug, Regarding intelligence, I am not reversing my stance. I am just saying I am not as confident that using the F-word is a clear indication of intelligence. But, it would be an interesting statistical study. It might still prove to have positive correlation.

Regarding class, I still think it is more common among the lower classes than the upper classes.
Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
I think the regular public, non-anonymous use indicates class bearing. I would agree. But, for instance, the use on this website which is essentially anonymous (some of us can be readily found by our nom de guerre but not all) indicates nothing but a desire to be a bit outrageous and abrasive.

But your belief that language reflects intellect is very ethnocentric. It would be like saying "all Cajuns are morons" or "everyone with a southern accent is a redneck". It simply isn't true. Language is learned by environment (nurture) but intellect is genetic in nature.

Language is a means of expressing emotion and anyone can be pushed to a point where their ability to express themselves is put to the test and their most base and raw emotions come out. It is in those times when the public and very visible use of profanity can come out.

That said, some people reach that frustration point earlier than others and it may be true that those with a lesser intellect reach that point sooner do to an inability to express themselves in a more learned and expressive way. so it comes down to the reason for the use of the word. In a man cave smoking cigars and playing poker with your piers is a different environment than in a boardroom with the officers of the company and other board members.
semck83 (229 D(B))
20 Oct 13 UTC
Well, obviously it's taboo. Try saying it around enough families with young children and you'll find out relatively quickly.

It's a taboo that is lifted by common consent among most adults these days, but not enough that you shouldn't be aware of context. Using it in a professional job interview would be an extremely bad idea unless you had developed sufficient rapport with the interviewer to intuit that it would be viewed as funny or correctly expressive of a strong emotion.

I don't use it myself. Many of my friends don't either, though I have some who do and I don't complain. I don't think it's ever really affected a relationship. I thought Justice Scalia's recent remarks were true, that its increasing acceptance reflects a regrettable coarsening of society. There are worse things than coarseness, of course; I spend little if any time worrying about this particular linguistic trend.
Draugnar (0 DX)
20 Oct 13 UTC
With regards to Justice Scalia - Thank fucking God he can't legislate morality. I'd have to walk into SCOTUS and tell all of them to go fuck themselves if the federal government tried making swear words illegal and SCOTUS *didn't* strike it down as a violation of freedom of speech.
LakersFan (899 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Etomology wise, the saying of it being an acronym used by police in the 19th century - "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge". Is that valid? Anyone know? The other one I've heard about but never verified is shit, which supposedly meant "Ship High In Transit", and referenced the issue that a build of methane gas could cause if store in the lower sections of a boat.

Any wordsmiths out there who can verify these?
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
@ LakersFan: No, the word "fuck" has much older origins than that, and the "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" thing is generally held to be false:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuck#False_etymologies
Devonian (1010 D)
20 Oct 13 UTC
Draug, You said: "But your belief that language reflects intellect is very ethnocentric. "

Not necessarily. As you say,"Language is learned by environment (nurture) but intellect is genetic in nature." Isn't it possible that intellect impacts which environment a person ends up in? Isn't it possible that people with lower intellect end up in working class environments. Their offspring would have similar genetic makeup.

All I am saying is that there might be a positive statistical correlation.
Invictus (240 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
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"With regards to Justice Scalia - Thank fucking God he can't legislate morality. I'd have to walk into SCOTUS and tell all of them to go fuck themselves if the federal government tried making swear words illegal and SCOTUS *didn't* strike it down as a violation of freedom of speech."


Such sad irony. Scalia, quite obviously, wasn't talking at all about outlawing swearing. Are you even vaguely familiar with the sorts of opinions he's been writing for thirty years? The point, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, was that the wider acceptance of harsh language was a part of the regrettable coarsening of the culture as a whole. Now, that's something reasonable people could disagree on, but it's certainly nothing like a plot to lock up potty mouths.
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Oct 13 UTC
" Isn't it possible that intellect impacts which environment a person ends up in?"

So there are no geniuses in third world countries? There are no geniuses in Chinas farmlands or Mexico? There are no geniuses in our inner cities? Shall we get into how white privilege (yes, on this I am in agreement) plays into the fact that inner city youth have a hard time breaking out because they just aren't given an equal opportunity.
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Oct 13 UTC
"Such sad irony. Scalia, quite obviously, wasn't talking at all about outlawing swearing. Are you even vaguely familiar with the sorts of opinions he's been writing for thirty years? The point, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear, was that the wider acceptance of harsh language was a part of the regrettable coarsening of the culture as a whole. Now, that's something reasonable people could disagree on, but it's certainly nothing like a plot to lock up potty mouths. "

No, the irony is that in a thread about the use of fuck, I made a point of using it repeatedly ("Thank fucking God" & "go fuck themselves"). I guess that was one of those "it sounded funny in my head" moments.
Invictus (240 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
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You're on a really strong miss-the-point run here, Draugnar.
Invictus (240 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
"I guess that was one of those "it sounded funny in my head" moments."

Fair enough.
Putin33 (111 D)
21 Oct 13 UTC
It's akin to 'awesome', 'totally', 'like', 'epic', 'fail', 'ridiculous' and all other signs of lazy speech.
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Oct 13 UTC
Your comparison of fuck to the other words fail by the simple virtue that Gone with the Wind is an epic in every possible way imaginable and it is ridiculous to suggest otherwise. I just used four of your lazy words properly. Once again, context is key. They aren't by virtue of every use, lazy words. Only by virtue of contextual uses.
Draugnar (0 DX)
21 Oct 13 UTC
Sorry, I forgot to mention I like Gone With the Wind. That was the fourth usage I meant to include.

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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
17 Oct 13 UTC
NFL Pick 'em: Week 7--Peyton's Homecoming, Rex's Boasting, and Monday's Debacle
We kick off Week 7 of the season tonight with a contest Obi hates--Seahawks and Cardinals, Hate vs. Hate. The unbeaten Broncos travel to Indy as Peyton "comes home" to take on his former team, the Colts. Rex Ryan has his swagger (and mouth) back and says he thinks Jets/Pats this week can be like the Jets won against the Pats...years ago...and Giants/Vikes in a MNF disaster of scheduling. So, that and more, Week 7--PICK 'EM!
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
20 Oct 13 UTC
To those in the WebDip Fantasy League
I hate Yahoo with a passion now. That is all.
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Kangaroo kid (0 DX)
21 Oct 13 UTC
World Series 2013
Boston Red Sox vs. St. Louis Cardinals

Who win's game 1 @Boston?
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
21 Oct 13 UTC
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What to spam next?
Have just finished making a troll thread on webdiplomacy, I feel that I will be disappointed by anything that follows, Any recommendations.
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