What the hell has happened to this site?

You obviously made its waters ... murky.

And guys this thread isn't any better then the other. If you think that one was wrong then you shouldn't of done this one.

haha iMurk you know something is wrong when 8 top pages are written by or involving krellin.

But YJ...you seem to be enjoying yourself here. Just be happy and accept the gift I have given you.

Cach - OK, flogger, blindfold and bondage tape, and then a little tingly warming lotion to get things heated up. but you must have a safe word....then you start to tickle and tease with various and sundry...feathers, strawberries, random sensations to get the body seeking the next touch...

Just think about it, without me and krellin you idiots would have no one to enlighten you.

Krellin... No.

What's this shit about tickling, teasing, fruits and the like??? And bondage tape? No...

Cotton rope (colour left to your discretion), some talent in the tying, a flogger, hooks on the ceiling (for suspension bondage), and maybe some leather on the dom.
Blindfold? Sure... sometimes. Gag-ball or bit can be fun too.

What is really needed, is a lot of imagination and a taste for adventure.

OK Cach...really, an under the bed leg and wrist restraint system works best...

Blindfolded and random body sensations to build up to the next phase...mandatory....it requires perfect trust.

Man, and I was trying to discuss something with Sybyvl.

So this is how you react when you stutter out the same points, over and over, while I drop point after point backing up my position.

You lose yet ANOTHER discussion, so your answer is to make a new thread *trying* to insult me? I think this shows for good and all that you concede my victory. Thank you, Sbyvl... I know its hard, but I appreciate this acts real meaning.

And the answer is this: I don't mind being the little spoon.

Maybe it's just nostalgia, but from what I remember of this site a few years back it wasn't filled with so many worthless, flaming forum threads/posts.

You were right the first time - It's just nostalgia, iMurk.

One if my first posts ever was about a young girl trying to sail the world alone - I thought it inappropriate and j was so ravaged for expressing my opinion....it pretty much set the stage for who I am here today. The weak are consumed by fire. But, my point is this has always been a place e of good threads mixed with foul smelling tripe.

I remember that post...

Do you? She evtually had to be rescued from an area known for piracy.

I was right... :)

So? Plenty of adults get rescued form areas known for piracy too. I believe Tom Hanks has a movie coming out soon about one particular captain of a freighter we all heard about in the news.

She wasn't some rank amateur but a highly skilled sailor who just happened to be under 18. You, I believe, made it out like her parent's were some kind of child abusers or guilty of child endangerment. Turning 18 or 21 isn't some magic day that suddenly means an individual is ready to meet the world. It means they are legally free to do so the same as any other adult of at least that age and so should be ready by then, but it doesn't mean they can't be ready before then. Personal responsibility means there is an age at which everyone becomes responsible for themselves. If they aren't they better have a damned good reason why, like being MR/DD. But despite the liberal argument that 17 is still a kid (TM was no fucking kid), many of these young adults are quite capable, more so than their elders in many cases.

:p. Not taking bait....Im reforming.

I thought you wanted to discuss it. You proclaim "I was right..." then run off and hide like Yellowjacket or #fuckthucy? Tsk tsk tsk...

As a father of a child now learning to drive, I can tell you that I am OK with her driving on her own around town, when she is able. She drove on our road trip to Florida, through the "mountains" in TN, no less. We were utterly *terrified* when we got caught in a sudden and torrential downpour, and she almost locked up mentally with fear.

Great kid, very responsible person, I trust her implicitly (even with a boy, so far...)...but she is a child.

Yes, this girl was not jut learning to sail a boat, was highly skilled, etc. I get it, truly I do. Did the parents have a legal right to do what they did? Yup...but I still, as a father, think it was a horrible decision. It's a *me* thing, it's a matter of putting my child in danger to fulfill their Personal desire to make a name for herself (get a twitter account…the whole world can read you) and the desire as a parent to cause your child disappointment (the real world is full of disappointments) and keep them safe – my primary obligation as a father. Was she highly skilled? Yup…had she been trained in all possible situations? No…could she have been for ALL situations? No. Could she have been better trained? Yes. She actually made a *poor decision*, which is what cause her the need to be rescued. That is why she didn’t need to be out there…childish need for glory overcame common sense.

That's a more reasoned approach than screaming "Child endangerers! They should be locked up!" like you did back then. In the end, she and they felt she was ready. Clearly she wasn't (then again maybe she was as ready as one can be and anyone could have fallen into her situation.)

People die sailing the Whitbread Around-the-World race. Experienced sailors. Nobody is invincible. She survived and will someday try again (I hope for her psyche's sake she does).

Strictly speaking, they did endanger her by allowing the trip.
That they felt she was ready - unfortunately I believe it is because they were less mature than she was, and even more blinded by the idea of riding the coat-tails of her glory-seeking.


It all worked out, and I, too, hope she does it again.

Call me over-protective…I just can’t imagine making that decision regarding my child. Adults that die do it with maturity and wisdom to guide their choices, usually. I can’t say the same held true here. At the very least, I would have been in a boat behind her shadowing her…

Endangerment is an active act, in the courts eyes. Simply permitting a juvenile to do something that isn't against the law is not an act of endangerment.

But yes, you may well be better parents than they are/were. I'm not a parent and so won't say I would be better or not as I don't know and have no desire to find out.

I'm going to bang krellin's daughter on her 18th birthday. We'll see just how "skilled" she really is, and no doubt she can be "trained" further.

Worry not, friends, the forum shall have a full report when YJ accomplishes his mission.

None can withstand the unpretentious wine I bring to the table.

He lives in Michigan. Their age of consent is 16. Why wait so long?

Because I would have to turn the cameras off.

The webdip community needs to know how krellin's daughter gets down, and I'm not going to let a little thing like CP laws get in my way!

Good point! Still kiddie porn even at 17. Smart thinking YJ!

You gotta keep mindful of these things, Draugnar old chum :)

Well, I don't take pictures or video when I mo...er...seduce 16 year olds. I have a nearly eidetic memory and "They can't take that away from me."