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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
24 Dec 12 UTC
And I Thought Texas Threatening Secession Was Good...
http://news.yahoo.com/pro-gun-rights-us-petition-deport-piers-morgan-130319681.html

Seriously? This is what 31,000+ people spend their time doing? Get a life… none of us are trying to deport Wayne LaPierre and he has a tad more impact than Piers Morgan.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Dec 12 UTC
Diplomacy world cup
I know there is a webdip specific world cup; but there has been a regular (every four year) nations world cup, for the last 8 years.

For more see: www.diplom.org/Zine/W2012A/Babcock/challenge.htm
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
24 Dec 12 UTC
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas to all, and a blessed and prosperous new year.
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KreIIin (0 DX)
24 Dec 12 UTC
Obama is a Muslim Terrorist.
Discuss.

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krellin (80 DX)
24 Dec 12 UTC
Mods - Seeking Help ASAP
I know it's Christmas Eve for some, but any Mods, please check email ASAP. Thanks. (Should be a quick item..)
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
The NRA is protecting your freedom.
Form a national database for the mentally ill. But hands off my fuckin assault rifle!
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Maniac (189 D(B))
24 Dec 12 UTC
Another discussion about pauses <yawn>
I thought this topic had been disussed to death. Pauses had to be voted by everyone to apply. However, I now learn that the mods will pause a game that has six votes only if they email the 7th member and he doesn't respond. I'm happy with all 7 or 6 plus an unreplied to email rule, but would like some clarity
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Dec 12 UTC
Scapegoating Nancy Lanza
m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/23/no-tears-nancy-lanza-newtown-mother
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ghug (5068 D(B))
24 Dec 12 UTC
Preemptive Seahawks Victory Thread
Suck it Obi.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
21 Dec 12 UTC
Complimentary Mod/Admin Thread....
Please use this opportunity to say something nice about our Mod Team.
If you can't think of something nice please don't post.
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shield (3929 D)
23 Dec 12 UTC
Kill it with Fire!
gameID=106875

Not my best played game but always fun to play partysane: Also Germany what the heck were you doing?
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.Anonymous. (0 DX)
24 Dec 12 UTC
need 1 player
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=106933
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
24 Dec 12 UTC
EOG tyran is a shopaholic
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
Australia after the 1996 Port Arthur attack
Gun laws don't work?
http://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2012/12/20/zo-legde-australie-in-de-jaren-negentig-het-vuurwapenbezit-aan-banden/
(translate.google.nl, Dutch to Your language)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
24 Dec 12 UTC
Oh, Tagggggggggg...
Nobody's stupid enough to believe this bullshit, right?

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/mitt-romney-no-desire-president-tagg-says-191236665--election.html
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Strauss (758 D)
24 Dec 12 UTC
Fast Europe-20
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=106924
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
23 Dec 12 UTC
Lusthog Squad
England in game 4, please remind yourself of the game rules.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Dec 12 UTC
Lots of Games Available!
userID=48514 … just got banned. Left 14 games.
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erik8asandwich (298 D)
23 Dec 12 UTC
Replacement needed details below
The country is france. Here is the game id gameID=106750
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
23 Dec 12 UTC
Need Replacement Italy
gameID=106507

Good position, gets a build this coming year, plenty of options.
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Grimworth (0 DX)
23 Dec 12 UTC
31GB departure in 2 min
31GB departure in 2 min

1spot lef
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
23 Dec 12 UTC
E-O-G - Fast game. Join.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=106855
My son is a big minecraft fan
Another great game, this was one I joined after France CD'ed so we can't see who the offender was, then England CD'ed
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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
23 Dec 12 UTC
Silent night redo EOG
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
My New Favorite Bible Passage
11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.
--Deuteronomy 25:11-12 (That's quite possibly the most horrible-yet-hilarious passage I've ever read that's meant to be taken seriously...can anyone...erm, defend it? At all? If so...you're the most amazing lawyer ever.) xD
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Rommeltastic (1111 D(B))
18 Dec 12 UTC
Dude, if you're in a fight - and your wife leads you away by the *dick*...

That's just WRONG.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
1. Not disagreeing...but I mean, isn't that kind of an unspoken rule? xD That one REALLY needed to be written down? (Ten bucks says it DID happen once to the author of this passage, and he sat down--rather painfully--afterward and wrote this little bit to be sure it never happened again!)

2. Still...cut her hand off? Show her no mercy? A bit extreme, I think...LOL

3. Seriously, I have to know, WHY was this rule that needed to be written down?! Was this REALLY a problem in ancient Judea, a bunch of Jewish guys getting tugged away by their circumcised John Thomas? LOL
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Dec 12 UTC
I read it as her grabbing the assailant by his private parts.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
^agreed
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Dec 12 UTC
It is the assailants Johnson it refers to. And the cutting off of the hamd is cause in Hebrew law the Johnson is unclean and the hand could.never be made clean again. They even have a law about which hand.to shake.your Johnson with after pissing.
FlemGem (1297 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
Deut 23:1 says that "no man whose testicles are crushed or whose penis is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord" - so having intact gonads was pretty important. So ladies, if you're going to help your husband in a fight, hit the other guy over the head with a hammer or something, just leave the jewels alone. But good question....was there really a big problem with this?
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Dec 12 UTC
Husband: "Hey honey?..."

Wife: "Yes, my love?"

Husband: "You remember the other night when I was in that little scuffle?"

Wife: "You mean when that guy had you down on the ground and was kicking you in the head over and over?"

Husband: "Uh, yeah, then, well, I've got some bad news."

Wife: "Oh no, is he upset?"

Husband: "Of course he's upset, you grabbed him by the balls!"

Wife: "Well, I had to get him off of you somehow."

Husband: "Then why didn't you just hit him on the back with my shepherd's crook?"

Wife: "Well, he robe was in disarray and his...family jewels...were right there. And besides, you looked like you were unconscious, I had to do something fast!"

Husband: "Yeah, well, I was faking hoping he'd let up a bit, wasn't I."

Wife: "And how was I to know that?"

Husband: "ANYway, I've got some bad news. He went to the priests and said that he couldn't have any children anymore and he demanded our first born, Jonathon!"

Wife: "Oh heavens, what did the priests say? He can't have little Johnny!"

Husband: "Well, the good news is the priests agreed with us and Johnny won't be taken away. The bad news is they still ruled against us, but wife a different punishment."

Wife: "What are you doing with that knife?"
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
1. Maybe it's a translation issue, but I'd ask how you got her grabbing the assailant's privates and not the husband's...not saying you couldn't read it that way, just asking if there's a way you read it as that and only that, or is this just your personal interpretation (I don't see anything in the above text, at least, to say who it is), and

2. I'm sorry, Draug, cutting off a woman's hand for grabbing a penis?????
That's absurd under ANY rational view of the matter.
It even says "Show her no mercy"--WTF? REALLY?

3. That last bit, by the way, is where I got the reading of it being the husband's dick and not the assailant's; after all, if she WAS grabbing the attacker's dick, why would the husband then feel the need to "show her no mercy" and punish her by cutting her hand off (logically, again, excluding the half-baked "It'll never be clean again," when you use words like "Show her no mercy," that seems to hint this dismemberment is more a revenge thing than for her own good, after all, wouldn't doing something for her own good BE showing her mercy and goodness, the exact OPPOSITE of what is said here?)
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Dec 12 UTC
The way ypu get the assailant is that the assailant is the last male person mentioned so the masculine.pronoun refers to him at that point. As far as who does the cutting off of hands, the writer shifts tp second person (you shall) so it is neither the husbamd or the assailant, but a third univolved arbiter: a judge if ypu will for her commiting the crime of crushing his nads.
Jamiet99uk (873 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
@ Draugnar, do you actually call your dick your "Johnson"?

When were you born, 1923?
FlemGem (1297 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
1. I think it's a context issue. Why would the woman rescue her husband by grabbing his privates? Obviously she'd be grabbing the assailant's nuts with the intent to inflict maximum pain and thus rescue her husband.
2. Yeah, it's pretty weird. But as I pointed out above, see Deut. 23:1 and it's a /bit/ less absurd.
3. There's no indication of who cuts the hand off. The responsibility probably lies with the town elders, but it's unclear.
FlemGem (1297 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
yeah, what Draug said.
ghug (5068 D(B))
18 Dec 12 UTC
@Draug, Johnson, nads, really?

@Obi, English pronouns suck, but generally that "his" will reference the most recent applicable noun, namely "assailant." A quick check of a Latin translation semms to confirm that.
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Dec 12 UTC
I was trying not to be so crude as cock and balls. But there, happy? How about the fuck stick and the germinators? That would be a kewl band name! Fuckstick and the Germniators! Of course, you'd have some print issues with the utility pole ads.
Jack_Klein (897 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
What, you're shocked a bronze age book contains fucked up and/or stupid things?


In other breaking news, water is wet, and last I checked, the sky was a blue-ish color.

More news later.
captain Obivous
Fasces349 (0 DX)
18 Dec 12 UTC
Compared to eating children, sacrificing your son, all the genocide carried out in his name etc. I don't think this is nearly the most brutal component of the old testament
Fasces349 (0 DX)
18 Dec 12 UTC
oh, and working on the sabboth is to be punished with stoning.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Dec 12 UTC
My favourite bible passage
'They tied me to a stake, I cannot fly, but bear-like I must fight the course'
Mujus (1495 D(B))
18 Dec 12 UTC
Yeah, that's a weird law, especially in the modern context. I'm pretty sure there are some cultural factors there that we don't know about today. No, Obiwan, I can't defend that law, except to say that God put it there for a reason that I don't know and really can't imagine. But I still trust God, that he knew what he was doing when he inspired Moses to write this.
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
I don't think God had much to do with stuff like this, honestly. This is dealing with cultural taboos and legal codes from a very different world. Just because it ended up in the sacred book of the Hebrews doesn't mean it matters much.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Dec 12 UTC
It would be funny though if abgemachts first name was Sean

Sean Abgemacht = ban game cheats
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Dec 12 UTC
yes seek jovial Krellin = I love senile alky jerks
Mujus (1495 D(B))
18 Dec 12 UTC
Player, you're entitled to your opinion.
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
Not every part of the Bible is equally important. It was not dictated by God, the way the Muslims view the Koran. It's important to use our brains as we approach the scripture.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
^Correct me if I'm wrong...

But isn't it alleged that the first 5 books were dictated to Moses from God?

Deuteronomy IS the 5th book, and so would fall under that "Five Books of Moses, Co-Authored By God" banner...so...?
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
I think there is Jewish tradition to that effect, but even a casual reading of the text seems to contradict that view. There are segments, especially in Leviticus, that sound like dictation.

I think that is a tradition that came into being later, in order to legitimize and sanctify the scripture, especially for the post-Exilic Jews.
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
A little google search leads me to find that the Rabbis differed on when and how the Torah was composed, and that the Talmud actually has several differing theories on the subject.
FlemGem (1297 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
I think the simple matter is that no one knows exactly how much of the Bible was written. A spectrum of theories falls within the boundaries of what is generally considered orthodox. Of course you have your fringe people who consider being right more important than actually knowing God and loving people and they might consider everyone else to be heretical, but meh, you'll have that.
dipplayer2004 (1310 D)
18 Dec 12 UTC
Just as you will have those who will pick an obscure, never-quote or preached-about verse to try and diminish it, instead of focusing on the parts that actually are vital and significant.

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Strauss (758 D)
22 Dec 12 UTC
Fast Europe-20
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=106842
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Putin33 (111 D)
22 Dec 12 UTC
When to attack a buffer state
I can never get this right.
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Jamiet99uk (873 D)
20 Dec 12 UTC
Multi-person single-accounting
We all know it's against the rules for one person to have multiple accounts. Is is also against the rules for one account to be used be multiple players (none of whom have any other accounts) ?
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ghug (5068 D(B))
21 Dec 12 UTC
Replacements Needed
A player was banned from gameID=104812 and gameID=104878.

PM or post if interested.
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
21 Dec 12 UTC
Small question
Sometimes in the archives I find games in which somebody RESIGNED. How does one do that? There isnt any button to do that right?
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
22 Dec 12 UTC
Mod: pause this game?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=105130

Russia has quested a Pause that has been granted by all players. But he's forgotteen to pause himself. To prevent disbalance or even CDs, please pause. Thanks!
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