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spyman (424 D(G))
19 May 12 UTC
Documentary recommendations?
Can anyone recommend a really good documentary? At the moment I am interested in the history of the European settlement of America. Maybe the Jamestown settlement or the Mayflower... that sort of thing. Anyone know of some decent docs which fit the bill (or any other great docs you think are worthwhile on any subject).
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cspieker (18223 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Challenge game over at Playdip.com
Top 30 GR player wanted
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kremen (106 D)
20 May 12 UTC
EoG: Fast Gunboat WTA
Huh... Turkey CAN win! gameID=89373
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AtomicOrangutan (75 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Join my game!
Hey if anyone is interested in playing a simple Classic game join 300 The Legend 2.0. The betting is cheap and its winner takes all
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President Eden (2750 D)
20 May 12 UTC
Is the Benelux geography the key feature in gunboat games?
I was writing a post on playdiplomacy's forum in a thread asking for country rankings in gunboat, and it struck me that the bottleneck between Switzerland and the English Channel totally changes the dynamic of the game when communication is gone. C/P from the post - read on.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
No more growth?
http://physics.ucsd.edu/do-the-math/2012/04/economist-meets-physicist/#more-894
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
EoG: Cheap Gunboat-9
Live games are the thing, not these affairs that take weeks...
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
Porn
Time to talk about porn. There are a couple of topics we can choose from.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
20 May 12 UTC
How's Jesus doing, is he back yet?
I'm sure when he gets back he'll be over the moon to see what Israelis are doing to the Palestinians, backed by the Yanks and the Eurotrash
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therhat (104 D)
19 May 12 UTC
I am a Troll
Just want to see how long this takes.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Emotionally intelligent people are bad at spotting lies
http://www.livescience.com/20417-emotionally-intelligent-people-bad-spotting-liars.html?utm_source=Marleybonez-via-twitter

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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
One thing, the article seems to say a few times that they are overconfident in their apprehension of the truth, while the title seems to imply they get it wrong more often.

In my mind this doesn't add up, you could easily be equally wrong but more confident of yourself - does this make you worse? Well sure you'd probably be willing to risk more; but you're still as likely to be wrong...
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Does anyone have access to the journal of Legal and crinimilogical psychology? I can't find the source paper...
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
18 May 12 UTC
The journal is published on February and September and there is no article by a Stephen Porter in the most recent issue (Feb 2012) Perhaps it will be published 'officially' in September?
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
18 May 12 UTC
And if you are interested I think this is the original source of the news article:
http://www.bps.org.uk/news/emotional-intelligence-and-spotting-lies
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Thanks neb!
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
'Although EI, in general, was not associated with being better or worse at discriminating between truths and lies, people with a higher ability to perceive and express emotion (a component of EI) were not so good at spotting when people were telling lies. ' (EI -Emotional Intelligence)

Now i'm confused...
Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
18 May 12 UTC
heey I have found the way, they did make it available. I may send it to your gmail if you wish? It is jsut 14 pages...
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Gmail on my profile
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Awesome thanks!
krellin (80 DX)
18 May 12 UTC
<lights rags...tosses flaming bottle of gasoline...> OK...in general I think it is fair to say that Liberals tend to be more "feelings" based in their assessment of policy. This is fair, that isn't fair, blah blah, they talk about feelings much more so than Conservatives, whom are generally accused to being cold-hearted. Annnnnnd the logical conclusion in conjunction with this "article": Conservatives are better at spotting lies, and therefore less duped by the bad policy offerings of the Left, etc etc etc...This is why Liberalism fails. Hell, look at Putin's posts - full of emotional rational for why he supports the things he supports....and what does he support? And *utterly* failed form of government. He can't spot the lie....

"<lights rags...tosses flaming bottle of gasoline...> OK...in general I think it is fair to say that Liberals tend to be more "feelings" based in their assessment of policy. This is fair, that isn't fair, blah blah, they talk about feelings much more so than Conservatives, whom are generally accused to being cold-hearted. Annnnnnd the logical conclusion in conjunction with this "article": Conservatives are better at spotting lies, and therefore less duped by the bad policy offerings of the Left, etc etc etc...This is why Liberalism fails. Hell, look at Putin's posts - full of emotional rational for why he supports the things he supports....and what does he support? And *utterly* failed form of government. He can't spot the lie...."

This might be the stupidest pile of undefined terms and unjustifiable assumptions you've ever managed to cram into one paragraph. Congratulations.
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 May 12 UTC
He tells you he is rolling with the whole fuel to the fire and you*still* respond to him. Hellalt +1 forth great troll.
Except it's not a troll because we all know KRELLIN (not hellalt) well enough to know he means that, even if he intentionally phrased it to be antagonistic. feel free to try again though
orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Krellin, you are basing your assumption on the idea the emotional intelligence coorelates with one's place on the political spectrum.

There are coorelations between political spectrum and various personality traits - but this hasn't been shown. That combined with the state here that it is only a component of emotional intelligence which correlates with over-confidence in how people think they can detect lies - not that they are more easily conn'd, just that they are more confident of their position...
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
Sorry to hellalt. I meant krellin. But he wanted you to react and you did.
krellin (80 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
lol God...that was fun. Now, President Eden is an example of an *emotional* response that failed to acknowledge the truth of the situation. That was perfect.

@Orthaic...as I stated, I am basing my "assumptions" in this thinly veiled, self-admitted trolling event that Liberals are a bunch of whiny, "feelings-oriented" emotional pansies that deny such things as Financial Truths....you know, like if you tax a business out of existence, it won't be there to support your social welfare programs. It FEELS right...it FEELS good....it gives them positive emotional feedback...to pass "tax the rich policies"....but the truth is they have failed, and it's obvious. The "War on Poverty" is a feel-good emotionally-based economic program from the left that has been ab *abject* failure. Why does it still exist? Because emotion has shrouded the truth in the minds of liberals.

I'm not saying that every liberal is emotional or visa-versa....but on a purely anecdotal basis, Liberals base policy on what feels good, and Conservatives don't....THIS is why Conservatives are called cold hearted bastards when they want to cut funding to programs because the TRUTH of the financials is the there is no money to fund anything with!

But....bottom line...I was trolling....but yes, I believe on a superficial level what I have stated, and am amused an all heck that President Eden was shump enough to be a good Lib rise to the fight.
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
Told ya' all. I know when krellin is yanking chains, drunk, or dead serious. This was chain yanking 101 fro the krellmiester.
krellin (80 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
lol Sober, by the way. :)
largeham (149 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Is it weird I imagine krellin hopping/jumping in a circle, clapping his hands and laughing/giggling?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
'Liberals base policy on what feels good' and how does this tendancy equate with emotional intelligence in your mind?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
* that should say 'warped little'

No wait, i shouldb't lower myself to his level :-/

No wait that's still way above his level...

Ahahaha ... You know what, i think if someone had killed John Connor any time before skynet had seny the Terminator back to kill John Connor, skynet would never have existed!!!
This is so dumb. Of course krellin is going to say he was trolling even though everyone here knows better, and of course Draugnar is going to give him props for no good reason. Of course they're going to claim it was an "emotional reaction" when it's obviously anything but, and of course they'll never acknowledge that they're wrong. Now do y'all mind allowing the adults to discuss this?
And while we're at it, lol @ use of the word "liberals." Virtually everyone in the United States is "liberal" if you actually use the word correctly, instead of the form talk radio shock jock morons butchered into some half-assed insult or slur. But please, continue to contribute to the dumbing down of the political discourse, it's done our country SO MUCH GOOD.
krellin (80 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
President Eden....your EMOTIONAL outbursts here simply continue to make my points regarding the idiocy of Liberals. Keep it up! <jumps around in circles, clapping hands, waiting for PE's next post. You missed that I occassionally make whooopeeee cheers, too>

As for your own misinterpretation of the word Liberal....yes, you are right....EVERYONE in the country is using the word wrong and only a secret cabal of smarties like you know it's proper usage....lol That was funny. Do it again! Do it again!!!

Draug....make the funny Eden do it again...pleeeeeeeease!!!
krellin (80 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
President Eden....of course I will say Im' trolling when I open my statement with "obvious troll is trolling" kind of statement. You know....it's like when you make a joke and use :) or some such emoticon to convey that fact incase it was missed. The funny thing is, your are so hell bent on being angry....if I had NOT announced my trolling intent you no doubt would be accusing me of being a troll! lol Too funny....
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
@krellin - Yes, I knew you were sober (your post was coherent even if the logic failed -intentionally, I know-. When you are drunk you scream and curse more.
Since you're struggling with reading comprehension again, I went ahead and hashed out all your bullshit in my last post. The idea was that you had your piece and you can take your ball and go play in the sandbox over there now while the rest of us try to have a constructive conversation.

As for liberalism. Web definition's here, to give a baseline:

"A political orientation that favors social progress by reform and by changing laws rather than by revolution."

As I said, virtually everyone in the US is a liberal by that definition. Of course, it goes further, and has more meaning than that (as that's not really saying much). Liberalism calls for constitutional, democratic (whether in the form of a republic or democracy) governance and protections of basic human freedoms, like expression of religion, free speech, and - get this - property rights in a capitalist society. Even those dreaded European 'socialists' are capitalists - just capitalists with a level of state intervention that you and I would find unacceptable. So yes, even by that much more qualified definition, virtually everyone is a 'liberal.'

Being a liberal doesn't mean you can't also be conservative. In fact, as conservatism is a relative ideology, and liberalism an absolute ideology - that is, conservatism defines itself relative to a time period, whereas liberalism is a set of static ideas - it is entirely incoherent to set conservatism and liberalism as opposites.
Also, I love how in any other thread I'd have been dismissed as just trolling, but in this one I magically swing the opposite direction and am incapable of understanding or spotting trolling or discerning between people who don't believe the inflammatory bullshit they spout and people who do. Gotta love that consistency.
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
@orathaic - Conner brought down skynet. He didn't create it. So even if they went iback to the WWII and killed his great grandpa on his mom's side so she was never born, skynet would still have been created... Except it was the guy researching chip from the first terminator that rersulted in skynet's creation. Just a small paradox there.
krellin (80 DX)
19 May 12 UTC
PE....your like a spider and I'm a mean kid with a magnifying glass on a sunny day...toying with you, laughing every time you walk through my deadly beam again!

You idiotic rant about how liberals can be conservative....lol Comedy GOLD my friend. Keep it up. Normally you have to buy a ticket to witness such things.

I think what is really bothering you is the scientific discovery that you are easily duped and suddenly realized that you are a mindless slave to a broken ideology. I know that must be very tough to swallow, especially on a Friday night when you were hoping to be having fun. <sigh...> I almost feel bad for making you so sad....

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C-K (2037 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Favourite and least favourite countries to play in a Gunboat game.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the matter. Please include why you like or dislike a country.
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Nebuchadnezzar (483 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Is it a legal diplomacy strategy? (hehe I am asking for a certiorari again)
The question is can you use 'cancel' as a legit diplomatic tool? Is it 'illegal' to force others to cancel instead of a 'draw' (as the game is realpolitik I am not much concerned with ethical sides but that is also open to discussion :P)
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Geofram (130 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Nominate my TEDx Talk?
I have an opportunity to speak at my university's first ever TEDx convention, if the selection committee chooses me. They're accepting nominations and I thought I'd ask here. More details inside.
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
20 May 12 UTC
EoG: Pixel kings
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Fortress Door (1837 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Chelsea vs Bayern Munich
Italy and France, why didn't you draw when Germany first put it up??
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Victorious (768 D)
17 May 12 UTC
Winter Gunboat Tournament CD
Hello everybody involved,

I will not talk about the games still going on, but i do have to adress the fact one player is CD'ing. In my opinion it is clearly influencing the outcome of the Tournament, so dont we have to do something about it?
Because the organiser of the Tournament is also playing, i dont know how else to adres this....
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
17 May 12 UTC
All the water on Earth
The blue sphere is all the water on this planet in all its forms. The sphere is 860 miles in diameter (via USGS). Thoughts?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m453moASsn1qluhiho1_500.jpg
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LakersFan (899 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Concession Option for Live Games
I know the point is to try to not encourage people to give up...

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S.E. Peterson (100 D)
19 May 12 UTC
WTA-GB-17 EOG orRreason #456Wwhy I Need to Quit Playing Gunboats.
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=89225

This was the clusterfuck of clusterfucks and I've been in a lot of clusterfucks lately.
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Emac (0 DX)
18 May 12 UTC
Why do people use character assassination
I don't know much about psychiatry, but why do people resort to character assassination? Is it because they are so narcissistic they can't except being wrong or have anyone disagree with them. It is just the last resort of an immature intellect?
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KingShem (100 D)
15 May 12 UTC
Scarborough shoal conflict between PH & China
1.China claims scarborough shoal according to china's historical records
2.Philippines claims scarborough shoal according to international law UNCLOS, That any natural resources 200nautical miles from a country has sole exploitation rights. So since no one is up for live, i'd like to hear ur opinions
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
19 May 12 UTC
Home alone
Drinking and playing a live game. Doesn't get much better than this. No sir.
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Wernazuma (589 D)
18 May 12 UTC
The character of a cheater/multi
Even in the few games I've played, I already came across several cheaters/multis who were banned. Possibly there were some more who went undetected.

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footballer_22 (188 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Live WTA-GB-17 austria/germany cheating
please look at this
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LakersFan (899 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Gunboat 281 EOG
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achillies27 (100 D)
18 May 12 UTC
Desperately need a replacement...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=89201 please?
i need to leave soon...
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 May 12 UTC
Ron Paul and fiat currency systems
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ShSGz89mA

Silver and Gold: the truth exposed? <- discuss
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Fletch! (716 D(S))
18 May 12 UTC
Admin?
Can we get an admin to move the game along? Waiting 4 more days for a player who is gone!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=82041#gamePanel
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