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krellin (80 DX)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Has Anyone Noticed Abge...
....thinking that, because he's a mod, he thinks his opinion and *judgements* have more meaning.
Wait...JUDGING!! Funny...so many people thinking JUDGING is bad...and Yet it is ALL THE RAGE if you are judging a conservative. Sad hypocrites....
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rokakoma (19138 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
PW'd WTA Gunboat
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dubmdell (556 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Completely lost (high level math again)
Here's the problem: http://imgur.com/6bSaE
Here's how I started: http://imgur.com/tJQiS

Am I on the right track? Have I done things correctly thus far? Any hints on how to proceed?
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Sandgoose (0 DX)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Feelin' Good with Sandgoose
So tell me forum...what makes you feel good? Diplomacy-wise, personally, whatever. Keep it age appropriate! so X-rated is permitted. =)

ex: Logging in to webDip and seeing a bunch of press. Post away!
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cspieker (18223 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
How exactly does the CD/resign/left thing work?
From playing a bunch of live games here is how I *think* it works. Could people correct and/or clarify my myriad of assumptions listed below.
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dubmdell (556 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Grilled cheese > PB & J
Discuss.
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coldsoup (164 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Replacement needed
Germany needed. If you can make friends you'll still be in good position.
gameID=85643
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dubmdell (556 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Need some high level math help
This is a convolution problem. Where ** is the symbol for convolution, I am having difficulty showing that:

xe^-x = (e^-x) ** (e^-x)
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Vaftrudner (2533 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
EOG [LIVE] GUNBOAT " Fun Unlimited" Edition
gameID=86646

Congratulations to Chanakya. But Bob, what happened in the last move there? I had Munich covered, Bur could have saved Mar, and Portugal was not in danger? I don't understand. We were just one turn away from drawing.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Racist Swedish Cake
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17749533

I saw this wonderful news article on the BBC and I thought it was worth sharing - not only because it's so ridiculous it's comedic but also because it reminded me of our resident Swede, Vaft :)
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Definitely won't see this on American television
Julian Assange interviews Hassan Nasrallah (leader of Hezbollah)
http://assange.rt.com/nasrallah-episode-one/
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Chanakya. (703 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
EOG: [LIVE] GUNBOAT
Austria gave a good start and I managed to pull into Turkey defence later on that handed me the game and My rankings got to 1556 :) lol

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Sargmacher (0 DX)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Gunboat Teammanship
gameID=82180

What an impressive display! Faultless communication despite it being a gunboat.
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Bob Genghiskhan (1238 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
Could people please stop signing up for games and then not showing up?
I swear, every time I'm Turkey or England, people don't show up and screw thegame. If I'm Austria, though, everybody's there with bells on and eager to move to Trieste and Galicia right away.
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
19 Apr 12 UTC
EOG WTA 17
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Marxism
Marxism is fundamentally a theory of history which should entail a commitment to social change; that is, a commitment to a socialist future in which the forces of production are not owned privately as they are in capitalist societies but under common ownership.
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S.E. Peterson (100 D)
19 Apr 12 UTC
WTA-GB-103 EOG
Thank you gentlemen for a very good game. And for your patience. (I had to try).
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Bob Genghiskhan (1238 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Chelski playing Barca
And Drogzilla scores. I effing hate Chelski, but I have nothing but admiration for Drogba. It helps that they're playing Barca, who I fucking detest since their several year long campaign to stoke Fabregas' discontent. Seriously, fuck them.
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King Atom (100 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Whenever I Get Upset...
...I listen to this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1OFuyCsJBk

And then I participate in my Two Minutes' Hate.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
18 Apr 12 UTC
Remember when we used to argue what historical figure would be best at diplomacy?
Relevant: http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3857227_700b.jpg
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Bob Genghiskhan (1238 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
It's heading into 1907, and no one has ever taken Spain.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=86594#gamePanel

Quality game. Quality.
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krellin (80 DX)
18 Apr 12 UTC
MR Religion (Fuzzy) is MAD!!!!
Oh My....I should be scared. I bet GOD is about to strike me down!!!!

Mr. Fuzzy nuts sent me THIS gem:
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
17 Apr 12 UTC
Question: Re: Muting Players
Why is it that messages from a player I have muted still flash up on my home screen intermittently? Does anyone else have that? Might it be because I'm using Chrome?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Apr 12 UTC
Big Az Cheeseburgers - These things *rock*!
http://www.advancepierre.com/products/1443_Beef-Charbroil-with-Cheese.aspx

Oh! My! Fucking! God! They are too damn good for words!
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
14 Apr 12 UTC
To all those men who don't think rape jokes are a problem (NOT my work!)
An interesting perspective follows...
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
14 Apr 12 UTC
This post in particular is addressed to men, not because women don’t rape and women don’t make/laugh at rape jokes and not because men can’t be raped, but because, by nature of the existing gender disparity, men are in a unique position to be taken seriously when they raise objections to casual language and humor regarding rape. Men are also in a unique position to prove to rapists and douchebags that not all men rape or take rape lightly by being able to embody living proof of that fact.

I get it—you’re a decent guy. I can even believe it. You’ve never raped anybody. You would NEVER rape anybody. You’re upset that all these feminists are trying to accuse you of doing something, or connect you to doing something, that, as far as you’re concerned, you’ve never done and would never condone.

And they’ve told you about triggers, and PTSD, and how one in six women is a survivor, and you get it. You do. But you can’t let every time someone gets all upset get in the way of you having a good time, right? Especially when it doesn’t mean anything. Rape jokes have never made YOU go out and rape someone. They never would; they never could. You just don’t see how it matters.

I’m going to tell you how it does matter. And I tell you this because I genuinely believe you mean it when you say you don’t want to hurt anybody, and that it’s important to you to do your best to be a decent and good person, and that you don’t see the harm. And I genuinely believe you when you say you would never associate with a rapist and you think rape really is a very bad thing.

Here is why I refuse to take rape jokes sitting down…

Because 6% of college-aged men, slightly over 1 in 20, will admit to raping someone in anonymous surveys, as long as the word “rape” isn’t used in the description of the act—and that’s the conservative estimate. Other sources double that number (pdf).

A lot of people accuse feminists of thinking that all men are rapists. That’s not true. But do you know who think all men are rapists?

Rapists do.

They really do. In psychological study, the profiling, the studies, it comes out again and again.

Virtually all rapists genuinely believe that all men rape, and other men just keep it hushed up better. And more, these people who really are rapists are constantly reaffirmed in their belief about the rest of mankind being rapists like them by things like rape jokes, that dismiss and normalize the idea of rape.

If one in twenty guys (or more) is a real and true rapist, and you have any amount of social activity with other guys like yourself, then it is almost a statistical certainty that one time hanging out with friends and their friends, playing Halo with a bunch of guys online, in a WoW guild, in a pick-up game of basketball, at a bar, or elsewhere, you were talking to a rapist. Not your fault. You can’t tell a rapist apart any better than anyone else can. It’s not like they announce themselves.

But, here’s the thing. It’s very likely that in some of these interactions with these guys, at some point or another, someone told a rape joke. You, decent guy that you are, understood that they didn’t mean it, and it was just a joke. And so you laughed.

Or maybe you didn’t laugh. Maybe it just wasn’t a very funny joke. So maybe you just didn’t say anything at all.

And, decent guy who would never condone rape, who would step in and stop rape if he saw it, who understands that rape is awful and wrong and bad, when you laughed? When you were silent?

That rapist who was in the group with you, that rapist thought that you were on his side. That rapistknew that you were a rapist like him. And he felt validated, and he felt he was among his comrades.

You. The rapist’s comrade.

And if that doesn’t make you feel sick to your stomach, if that doesn’t make you want to throw up, if that doesn’t disturb you or bother you or make you feel like maybe you should at least consider not participating in that kind of humor anymore, not abiding it in your presence, not greeting it with silence…

Well, maybe you aren’t as opposed to rapists as you claim.

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Note: A quick and simple rule for language and behavior if you want to be a decent person: Ask yourself, who is more likely to be made to feel comfortable around me based on whatever I’m about to say/do? Rape survivors? Or rapists? Who is more likely to be made to feel uncomfortable? If you’re doing something that is more likely to make rapists feel comfortable and/or rape survivors feel uncomfortable, then don’t do it!
Sydney City (0 DX)
14 Apr 12 UTC
Well said....
Tolstoy (1962 D)
14 Apr 12 UTC
I can't say I can ever recall hearing a joke about rape. Am I living under the metaphorical rock?

I can say I've heard plenty of jokes about (male on male) prison rape, of course, but for some reason that phenomenon never merits commentary from the pundits of perpetual grievance. I wonder why that is.
ulytau (541 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
Same here, Tolstoy. And I heard more Holocaust jokes than I can remember. The notion is still true though, just like laughing at a racist joke will reinsure racists that you agree with them.
ulytau (541 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
*reassure :(
Putin33 (111 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
"Am I living under the metaphorical rock?"

Yes. That pretty much explains your entire shtick about white males being oppressed.
Putin33 (111 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
http://videos.nymag.com/video/This-Seasons-Many-Rape-Jokes-on#c=KJ1VXD3NKG2YQ1M6&t=This Season's Many Rape Jokes on TV

The Czech (40297 D(S))
15 Apr 12 UTC
Tolstoy, I'm with you. I have NEVER heard a male on female rape joke. Prison rape references, but NEVER a M/F rape joke. I'm now searching the internet to see what one such joke might be.
The Czech (40297 D(S))
15 Apr 12 UTC
Oh, and I just watched Putin33's video. Never seen any of those shows.
semck83 (229 D(B))
15 Apr 12 UTC
Likewise, Czech et al.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
15 Apr 12 UTC
Maybe it's just my locale and generation but among my peers at least a year or two ago you would say you "raped" something to mean you succeeded violently.

You could "rape that test" or "rape that cheeseburger" or whatever.

So yeah. I have definitely heard a lot of rape jokes.
I seem to recall semck, Czech and Tolstoy being older gentlemen. This probably explains the disparity, because I, like Thucy and Putin, have heard plenty of rape jokes, and I believe the three of us are all pretty young (under 30?). For some rather inexplicable reason, the recent use of "LOOL GET RAPED" in reference to everything from getting beaten at a shooter game to a sports game to a test has spiked dramatically. I don't get it, I think it's terrible and I wish people would stop.

That includes prison rape/soap drop/etc. jokes as well.
How can you justify listening to OFWGKTA's music?
krellin (80 DX)
15 Apr 12 UTC
Who the fuck do you hang around with where people are telling rape jokes? I suggest the problem isn't society or any such thing....it is your sick f*ing friends, if you somehow think this is such a problem that you are posting about it. Nor do i see it on TV....but I don't have cable, so that might be the difference.

As for Putin posting on this topic....laughable....he's the asshole that linked to beheading pictures the other day and thought that was reasonable public fair, and alos supports Middle Eastern regimes in which rape and murder are commonplace, particularly against women. Hypocrite!
krellin, seriously, it's the VAST majority of teenage guys. It's not some isolated pockets...
krellin (80 DX)
15 Apr 12 UTC
At PE....it wasn't the vast majority of ANYONE when I was a teen, and it isn't a part of anyone's life that I know as an adult. So, picking out a very small segment of society (teen males) and trying to paint society as a whole with this broad brush is moronic, at best.

And, again, so suggest that it is a VAST majority of teenage boys? REALLY? DOCUMENT THIS --- otherwise it is just YOU and YOUR sick friends.
spyman (424 D(G))
15 Apr 12 UTC
I have trying really hard to remember if I have ever heard a rape joke. Its not a fenre i am familiar with. The only one I can remember is really old.

Two nuns are walking in a dark alley when they are set upon by two hoodlums. The first nun cries out and says "forgive them lord for the know not what they are doing!"
The second nun then cries out "speak for yourself, this one does"

Is anyone offended?
spyman (424 D(G))
15 Apr 12 UTC
Typo... fenre = genre
ulytau (541 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
Aww, krellin is so cute when he's lost, as usually. Even I, who haven't known about rape = pwn = own half an hour ago can immediately find evidence on the internet that it is not indeed only PE and his friends who have heard about it.
The Czech (40297 D(S))
15 Apr 12 UTC
Just spoke with my teenage boys and the term "you just got raped" is used online quite often according to them (4 teenage boys btw). I don't believe using the phrase is the same as joking about it though. Unless, you just got powned was a joke about being enslaved as powned was a typo for owned.
butterhead (90 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
As a young male, I must say that I, have never heard a "rape" joke outside of, like everybody, the classic Prison Rape ones that everybody seems to hear, and the common "Get Raped" when it comes to video games and such, but NEVER have I heard a joke about a man raping a woman or anything of the such...
largeham (149 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
Yep, rape jokes are popular here. It's quite disgusting really.
The Czech (40297 D(S))
15 Apr 12 UTC
where is here?
spyman (424 D(G))
15 Apr 12 UTC
I am still not quite sure what we are talking about. Do we mean jokes like the one I told or is it something more extreme?
largeham (149 D)
15 Apr 12 UTC
Here= the centre of the universe, the most glorious and powerful Australia, home of the drop bears.

Spyman, I guess jokes like the one you said would count, but also as above people stating that they have 'raped' a test or a game, or the Insanity Wolf meme (it's not rape, it's surprise sex).
krellin, there's this beautiful thing called a search engine. Use it.

@thread in general: The whole point of the article is that the crime of rape gets trivialized to the mundane level of succeeding in a game or on a test with these kinds of jokes. Combined with the alarmingly high stat that some one in sixty males in America are rapists and the sheer prevalence of this kind of "humor," it's statistically very likely that people who use these jokes are reinforcing rapists' idea that rape "isn't that bad."

Thus, even if the joke isn't explicitly about male-on-female rape, it's still doing the damage we want to avoid, which is reinforcing the idea in rapists' minds that rape is acceptable.
The Czech (40297 D(S))
15 Apr 12 UTC
PE There are many violent acts that get trivialized. It's how some cope with such things.
Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
15 Apr 12 UTC
Definitely a problem of today's kids if it is a problem at all (consider the thread's author). I've never heard a man joke about a woman's rape and that goes back to the Baby Boom. I've seen men get the shit kicked out of them for saying much less about women. Maybe that's the trouble with today's kids, they don't know what men just don't do or joke about.
That doesn't make that trivialization right. And in the case of a rape joke in particular I would be VERY surprised to hear that rape victims cope with being raped by trivializing their being raped.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
15 Apr 12 UTC
My favourite rape joke, you ask?

Fagnaur.

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Eggzavier (444 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
New WTA games
gameID=86587 <= WTA press, long form
gameID=86591 <= WTA gunboat, long form
I can haz opponents?
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dubmdell (556 D)
18 Apr 12 UTC
JCBryan Invitational - Rematch EOG
gameID=83494
Congrats to Trood on his win.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
18 Apr 12 UTC
While Spain starves...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17752983
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semck83 (229 D(B))
17 Apr 12 UTC
Companion Grammar Thread for Losers
Out of moderate respect for ulytau's authority, I am creating a companion thread for people who have been eliminated from his other thread to keep arguing about grammar, ulytau's thread, and how unjust the universe is for disliking how they (yes, *we*... sigh) write.
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coldsoup (164 D)
17 Apr 12 UTC
The grammar game!
See below for the rules. The game is designed for your inner troll.
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