Ron Paul. That is all.

That is all. For Ron Paul.

I would like to visit the planet where Mitt is a good candidate. It sounds like one hell of a place

Ron Paul with his isolationist, legalize it, libertarian ideals aren't something the leaders within the GOP hope to endorse.

I would like to visit the planet where Ron Paul is a good candidate. It sounds like one hell of a place

YES
FINALLY, AN OPPORTUNITY

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Romney has a good private sector track record, he is the most moderate most electable of the remaining candidates.

nuff said

Wooo! Obama!!!

I'm assuming the second picture in Eden's collage was a picture of Seoul under Ron Paul's Presidency.

@Pres: I use to like Ron Paul, but then I took an economics course and read this article:

http://www.economist.com/node/21542199

"his coming this far tells you something about the mood of Republican voters. A substantial number like a man who wants to abolish the Federal Reserve, introduce a new currency to compete with the dollar, eliminate five departments of the federal government within a year, pull out of the United Nations and close all America’s foreign bases, which he likens to “an empire”."
its a bit to extreme, even for my tastes

Ha who am I kidding. Ron Paul President! Ha sorry I had a moment...

Nah, the second picture in my collage is a picture of Pyongyang being too dysfunctional and universally hated to do anything.

@Fasces: The country's, what, 14, 15, 16, I'm starting to lose track of the trillions we are in debt right now. Abolishing five departments doing things that government doesn't immediately need to be doing is a pretty solid initiative, and it's better than the glib bullshit the other candidates are putting out.

re: Fed - considering multiple times during his campaign he's stated he would call for a complete audit of the Fed, and has been careful not to say he intends to try to abolish it, I'm not sure that his personal desire to see it gone will matter too much. Even if he did try to push that, there's no way Congress would allow it. Similar argument with the competing currency.

re: UN/bases: why the hell not? What exactly does the UN do for the US? Why couldn't we just keep peaceful relations with other nations without committing ourselves to peacekeeping and aid missions which aren't necessarily in our national interest and which are necessarily additional financial burdens to us at a time where we can ill afford them?

PE, saw your fb post haha.

You're holding some truth there.

Also, agreed with the octopus. Whether one likes Paul or not is a legitimate difference of opinion I can respect and understand, but in what parallel universe is ROMNEY a good candidate?

lol yeah... I'm still on board the whole "let's slowly convert the young right wing into libertarians and transform the Republican Party" plan, but... if the attitude displayed in South Carolina is at least respected throughout the Republican Party, even if not directly agreed to, Paul's presidential hopes are slimmer than I would have hoped. Booing the Golden Rule? Seriously?

Romney is a good candidate because he is tied with Obama. If he's elected there's a better chance that progress will be made to solve the slow-motion train wreck which is our debt crisis. Under Obama there's no chance.

That's it. Vote for Romney to keep the whole edifice from falling in on itself. Once the momentum has started going in the right direction it won't matter if Cuomo wins in 2016, as he or some other Democrat almost certainly would if the serious and wildly unpopular reforms which we need are enacted.

Debt crisis. Republicans don't care about the 'debt crisis'. In order to care about such things you actually have to care about revenue, and actually have to not openly want to sabotage economic growth for political gain. They want to tank the government, period.

When will your ilk learn that economic growth increases tax receipts and thereby reduces debt. Never? How has that austerity plan in the UK worked? Try not at all.

BTW, Obama is leading 'the good candidate 'in *South Carolina*, of all places. LOL.

"Romney has a good private sector track record"
"Romney is a good candidate"

Wrong. Willard Romney is a serial killer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aix7tQMdJ3s

The fact that *any* of you could support a mass murderer of defenseless people shows how low America has sunk. What is wrong with all of you?!?!?!

That sure sounds like a Laffer curve there, Putin33.

There will never be enough money to pay for the promises the government has made. I can NEVER get the Social Security or Medicare coverage my grandparents got.These programs and others (including Defense) need to be readjusted to fit into the reality that we can't afford to keep running unfathomable deficits and borrowing money. We already basically pay for China's military with out borrowing.

The day will come when these alterations come. It's only a matter of whether we do them on our own terms or have them imposed on us by circumstances.

with our borrowing

"Ron Paul with his isolationist, legalize it, libertarian ideals aren't something the leaders within the GOP hope to endorse."

In another 20 years, all those leaders of the GOP you see today will be dead (of old age) or in retirement homes, and all the 20- and 30-something Paulistas will be running the show. Viva la Revolucion!

and with them alienate every other portion of your party's base I assume.

Well who are they going to vote for instead, Barack Hussein Obama?

But seriously, the opposition to Ron Paul from the GOP 'base' is mostly over foreign policy. People - even the hardcore fire-eating flag-wavers - are getting tired of our Forever War Against Muslims. Once the War Fatigue overcomes them, they will come around.

Considering the future of the right wing currently IS the youth - and specifically considering that since Paul's run, the mass conversion of the young right to libertarianism has been occurring at an absolutely ridiculous rate - I don't think that in 20-30 years there will be a significant "base" to alienate.

Plus, that base is most likely the Christian conservative evangelicals that everyone on the left openly mocks anyway. Where exactly are they going to turn? No one *wants* them!

*runs, in 2008 and 2012.

I know! What about the Democratic ticket, there's a...erm....well...

Well, he's not a *bad* candidate...he hasn't killed anyone...and he brought a Wii into the White House and represents gamers and nerds everywhere...

(PLEASE don't go off, just playing.) :P

Now, serious:

Huntsman was never going to win.
Neither was Bachmann.

So big deal, their dropping out, and my wonder is what took so long.

NOW.

Newt's moment has come and gone and come and gone and come and gone...it will NOT happen for Newt the Coot...in fairness, the immigration plan I heard in one of the 15 or so debates ONCE sounded at least closer to what I'd like to see than other candidates...but I can't even keep track any more, this whole GOP race has been a JOKE.

Won't be Newt.

And I don't think it will be Ron Paul--you can cite all the reasons he's the greatest thing politically since Jefferson...I still say, no way:

NOT with Romney winning all these primaries.
NOT with his alienating a substantial portion of the GOP military and business base.
NOT with his losing all those primaries to Romney.
NOT with less appeal to the religious right.
NOT when he's so extreme ("But the youth are the ones pulling for him!" Yes...and WHO were the youth--myself included there--pulling for in 2008? He was elected, but also won primaries, and...well, do you REALLY want to trust my age group again, if you hate the leader we picked the first time, why is it NOW OK to taut Paul's youth appeal?) ;)

My prediction:

Romney/Santorum so the latter can draw some more of the religious right to Romney's camp, or, more of a long shot, Romeny/Gingirch.

I can't see RP going for the Vice Presidency...

*tout