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stratagos (3269 D(S))
17 Sep 11 UTC
Question for Euro-Zone people
How does the whole soveriegn debt fiasco look from your point of view?

I know that people from Europe sometimes find it baffling how the safety net is much weaker in the US than in their home nations, but I think we here find the level of tax evasion, bribery, and corruption in the southern tier nations equally baffling....
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Dan-i-Am 88 (348 D)
17 Sep 11 UTC
First Person to Post Wins!
Should be self explanatory. . .
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Leif_Syverson (271 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
NMR's and CD's
The hating must stop. Embrace NMR's and CD's..
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
15 Sep 11 UTC
No Joke, this is a quote from a facebook arguement I am in
I will support Zack's decision to enter into the dangerously racist field of biology, despite the fact that reason and logic certainly have no place in the future socialist empire of equality and freedom which we will fight for and inherit, despite our low-birthrate and poor schooling. We will survive!
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
15 Sep 11 UTC
And thats coming from a socialist. Even they admit how illogical it is...
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Sep 11 UTC
science is not dangerous, humans are dangerous, and science enables humans to do things which they were not able to do before.

Biology is not racist. Humans can be racist in their interpretation of biology, though that same could be said of religion or politics.

A socialist admitting they think something does not mean all socialists think that thing, just as the fact that one webdip player thinks it is a good idea for turkey to open to armenia doesn't mean others agree.

also, it looks like someone is wrong on the INTERNET!
Sicarius (673 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
so what, are you like a 15 year old facebook fascist?
lolwut
Fasces349 (0 DX)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Biology is racist. It has proven that there are differences between the races...
Cachimbo (1181 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Racism is about values, not about facts.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Sep 11 UTC
they fact that there are genetic differences between people is not racism.

biology is not discriminating based on race. If you choose to act on these genetic differences, that is racist, it is saying one difference is better or worse than another. which is not what biology 'proves'
Cachimbo (1181 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
"Cachimbo doesn't have black skin" is not a racist comment.

"Cachimbo doesn't have black skin therefore he can be our friend" is a racist comment where a value is attributed to the fact "having black skin" that is impossible to derive from the fact itself.

Can't derive an "ought" from that kind of "is".
Dunecat (5899 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
orathaic ended the thread with his first reply.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Well mrya just claimed that IQ doesn't mean anything and we all have equal intelligence, and responded to my arguement before reading it... (I don't know mrya, she/he (transvestite) is an FB friend of a friend of mine, we are arguing on his status)
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Sep 11 UTC
*the fact

but that aside. There is greater genetic difference between individuals within one 'race' than there are between the 'races' so if you only group things based on genetics you don't get races, you get broad gene pools of people which overlap where the lines dividing 'races' could be drawn.

the concept of race however is a social construct not something which you can define using biology.
King Atom (100 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Fact: The Aryan race is the most intelligent, good looking, and ultimately, superior to all others.
Is that racist? I say no. Is saying "Jews are inferior" racist? I say yes. Is saying "racial segregation is neccessary to weed out the inferior races" racist? Again, I say no.
Well no shit there are differences between the races. Race is a phenotype, which is determined in part by genetics.

But in terms of being racist in the "justifying discrimination" sense? lolno
Fasces349 (0 DX)
15 Sep 11 UTC
"biology is not discriminating based on race. If you choose to act on these genetic differences, that is racist, it is saying one difference is better or worse than another. which is not what biology 'proves'"
agree
Fasces349 (0 DX)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Fact: The Aryan race is the most intelligent, good looking, and ultimately, superior to all others.

I wouldn't say most intelligent, but certainly the most good looking.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
"Well no shit there are differences between the races. Race is a phenotype, which is determined in part by genetics.

But in terms of being racist in the "justifying discrimination" sense? lolno"
Agree. When I claim that whites are on average better then blacks. I mean on average. I don't mean that were always better and if your aryan you are awesome. I mean that your more likely to be awesome if your aryan then if your black.

we should discrimniate based on colour, we should discrimniate based on other facts, such as being stupid (regardless of race) or other.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
IQ is like measuring how fast you can run the 100 meters.

it is a measure.

You could use how tall someone is, or the RGB value of their hair.... IQ measures how well a person performs in IQ tests, which fail to include tests of tings like creativity, morality, or emotional intelligence.

It is like measuring how fast you run 100 meters without also testing your ability to throw a discus. A limited measure of you as a person.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
*we should not discriminate based on colour.

that was my bad, and appears to be an incredibly racists typo.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
"IQ is like measuring how fast you can run the 100 meters.

it is a measure.

You could use how tall someone is, or the RGB value of their hair.... IQ measures how well a person performs in IQ tests, which fail to include tests of tings like creativity, morality, or emotional intelligence.

It is like measuring how fast you run 100 meters without also testing your ability to throw a discus. A limited measure of you as a person."
Well, according to some people, IQ is just a meaningless statistic that is used by capitalists to justify exploitation.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
By the way, 'black' sub-saharan africa has more genetic diversity than any other part of the world.

if i'm not mistaken there is more diversity in all the 'black' peoples and tribes of Africa than there is in the rest of the world.. Mostly because of a bottleneck event in our population's past.
King Atom (100 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
"Fact: The Aryan race is the most intelligent, good looking, and ultimately, superior to all others.

I wouldn't say most intelligent, but certainly the most good looking."

Definitely the most intelligent, just because we get a nut like Hitler or Wilhelm II, doesn't mean we're less intelligent. Other races get nuts like John Locke, Napoleon, or MLK and they ARE less intelligent.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
do people use your 100 meter speed to justify exploitation and discrimination?
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
"By the way, 'black' sub-saharan africa has more genetic diversity than any other part of the world."
I could believe that. And one of my friends is convinced the Maasai are the superior race. lol.

"do people use your 100 meter speed to justify exploitation and discrimination?"
Shit! Don't mention that! When mrya claimed there was no physical differences between males and females beyond their sexual organs and its unfair that females are discriminated against, I used the 100 meter race as one of the 4 examples that males and females are dominance...
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
*males and females are different.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
What the fuck King Atom? How can you possibly justify saying whites are the most intelligent? When you normalize for schooling and income, the stats disagree. And since when is Napoleon not white? He was born on freaking Corsica or something!
King Atom (100 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Aryan and white are not exactly equivalent...
And who cares about blacks who over-achieve, there are just more whites than them...as for latinos they steal our jobs and give nothing back...as for Asians and everyone else pretty much, they're not cool people. They have their societie
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
"Definitely the most intelligent, just because we get a nut like Hitler"
Hitler wasn't Aryan, and judging by your facebook profile neither are you.

Although the IQ statistics I had don't mention Aryan as an ethnicity, so I can't say whether we are. However on religion, the study place Anglican highest, followed by atheism, following by Judaism, followed by agnosticism, I can't remember the rest. But Catholics had an IQ of like 97...
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
As for race:
By skin colour:
White: 101
Yellow: 106
Black: 88 (or 86, I forget)
King Atom (100 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
"Hitler wasn't Aryan"
What the fuck?
"and judging by your facebook profile neither are you."
What the fuck? How the hell would you know my ethnicity based on that? I'm born Prussian, raised American!
Fasces349 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Aryan's have blond hair and blue eyes. A good quality that both you and my Hitler lacked.

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Cachimbo (1181 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Thucy and PE have been smoking some Troll-Weed.
Discuss.
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President Eden (2750 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Congratulations to Thucydides
For being elected my Vice President. This is our forum now. http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=769255#769255
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Sep 11 UTC
need new game, willing to invest points...
see op.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
Go to obiwan's profile and click "replies" for a lul or two
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
Congratulations to aoe3rules
For winning Chrispminis' inane Last Person to Post Wins thread. I just realized that abomination is locked. http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=237237&page-thread=1#threadPager
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kLepTo (639 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
World Anon Gunboat - we got 16 players already! Almost there.
World Anon Gunboat - we got 16 players already. Almost there.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=67745
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akilies (861 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
New Game/Leaving
As my semester increases in difficulty I am faced with a question. Should I take a break from dip? My answer is yes, but after one more game. Hoping to get some of my classic opponents, but there is nothing wrong with new people :)
I'm thinking WTA, anon, somewhere around 100 D for entry, 24 to 48 hour phases. Any Interest?
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GeorgeFrazier70 (0 DX)
16 Sep 11 UTC
This game only needs one more player! somebody please join
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hellalt (24 D)
14 Sep 11 UTC
Southeastern Europe challenge
Besides me there is another Greek player that just joined the site so I'm willing to go for a Southeastern European game (remember the team that won the silver medal in the world cup?).
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
So I was trawling the old forum posts from a couple years ago
Think I found my first post, and obi's and some other things...
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President Eden (2750 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
stupid troll alert
i swear this guy puts me to shame
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
7. Do not spam the forum or private messaging system: Discuss
And go.
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Kind.of.slow (746 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Winter gunboat tourney: Group A
Some fucking son of a bitch playing with France, France and Austria in games 1, 2 & 3was moving but not pausing. I guess he just liked to get France... He/She should be thrown out of the tourney, there is proper players waiting to get a place.
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KnightGeneral (1342 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Statistics
Does anyone know a website that has relatively recent Diplomacy statistics for things like victories, defeats, draws, opening moves, etc? I've recently re-read The Game of Diplomacy and am curious to see if any of the statistics that Sharp quoted have dramatically changed, but a cursory google search failed to find anything productive. Is there a database for statistics from this website? The 25,000+ games is a huge potential data set.
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Cachimbo (1181 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Slyster's birthday
Hey all, it's Slyster's birthday and I thought it would be funny to force him into wishing himself a happy birthday. See inside.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
15 Sep 11 UTC
So, what have I missed?
I have a lot of time to kill today, so I thought I'd poke my head back in here to see what's going on. Two hour+ commutes - both way - don't leave me with a lot of diplo time...
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President Eden (2750 D)
15 Sep 11 UTC
Congrats, dDST!
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President Eden (2750 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Can anyone defend breathing?
Can anyone defend the idea that a lung can diminish breathing underwater in exchange for increased mammalian imposition of lung power over the gills can produce a better capacity for life?
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☺ (1304 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Can anyone defend this idiocy in the forums?
I didn't think so.
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FirstApple (100 D(B))
09 Sep 11 UTC
Um jogo para nós que falam o português
Eu disse antes que faria um jogo. Quemes estaõ comigo?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
15 Sep 11 UTC
Can anyone defend playdiplomacy.com?
?
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Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
15 Sep 11 UTC
B-Movies
Is anyone else out there a big fan of B-movies? If so, wisely spend 16 minutes of your time watching Treevenge. You will be a better person because of it. (well probably not, but its fantastic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vaiv7kAXBzM
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Barrumbo (100 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
Partida en español
He creado una partida en español en Facebook sin contraseña ¿alguien se apunta?
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MilanGM (136 D)
16 Sep 11 UTC
"Territories" bug in world map for 17 players
There is a small bug in territories adjustments down on the south pole in world map.

You can actually move fleets from "Vostok" to "DdU".
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
16 Sep 11 UTC
Eat up the Gobble!
The Gobbledydook invites you to do battle with his royal highness.
Interested jousters and knights, please sign up below.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
15 Sep 11 UTC
Can anyone defend multi-accounting?
?
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