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Pandarsenic (1485

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07 Dec 08 UTC

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And so it begins - Rollback Cheating

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6792
In this game, pre-rollback, my lunge for North Sea as Russia was successful; Nilocy (England) altered Denmark's orders to something he NEVER would have dared do without knowing what was going to happen in advance to block it.
What now?

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Tru Ninja (1016

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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something this site needs

this site needs a way to search the database of users in this game to look at their profiles. otherwise, its a horrendous search on forums, open games, etc to find the player youre looking for. it would also be nice to add players to a list of people you keep tabs on like a buddy list.

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Thucydides (864

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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The Game

If you hate The Game, join the facebook group "NO GAME IN '09!!"

its designed to destroy the game systematically. sorry for making you all lose but im trying to publicize it so it will work. everyone join and invite your friends

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Marchosias (115

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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Yet more rollback cheating.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6806 is the game, Thingdo is the name.

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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Yikes!

People clean your laptops before going to over regulated nanny state formerly known as Australia.
first the introduction on a nationwide Internet wall with no opt out possibility and now this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7770781.stm

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urallLESBlANS (0

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05 Dec 08 UTC

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Obsession

I think I have an obsession with this game. I haven't found any game this fun since risk. I am playing a total of thirteen games and I'm constantly online checking, even though I have research papers to work on. It doesn't help that I joined all fast games and people on this site are always on to play and message. I think I need help.

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ranodom little midget ^_^ (100

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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joion this game ONLY FOR PPLZ UNDER 100 points

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7271

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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Join game: Another quicky

12 hour turns. Join fast!

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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Why did this move fail?

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6704
I'm usually pretty good about answering this type of question for others, but I don't see it this time.
Italy moves Tyrollia to Vienna and Bohemia supports it. Why did it fail?

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Frisco Play (642

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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Perpetually paused games...

What happens to paused games that never get unpaused? Are the points invested in those games simply lost?
If the whole idea of the point system is to never allow a player to have less than a hundred points either invested in a game or available how does one resolve paused games that one or more players refuse to unpause?

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P.Ginsberg (125

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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Can someone please unpause this game?

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6899
Dragonfly lost his password and stopped playing phpDiplomacy. he cant go CD because the game is paused.

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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An issue with a game I'm in.

Below is an issue regarding a game I am in.

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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New game: You can do it!

Join game: You can do it!

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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Lets Play....With a twist

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7243
The twist is....in global....you must tell us all of your past history playing Diplomacy and your favorite country and why. Also....as a bonus...buy in is SUPER CHEAP

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General Sean (233

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07 Dec 08 UTC

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Mr. Birsan, a world champion!

I was looking for the board game axis and allies when I stumbled across this article. I had no Idea we've been playing with such a prestigious player.

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ranodom little midget ^_^ (100

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09 Dec 08 UTC

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join this game plz

join this game at this link http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7263 it is caalled patapatapatapon if u have the game youll no what it is. this game is for patapon fans ONLY

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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Face to Face question/query

hey i just wanted some advice on the best/cheapest place to find a board in england and any tips people have for explaining face to face to people who have not played dip in anyway before. cheers

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07 Dec 08 UTC

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9999999 points problem

Details on the 9999999 points thing

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kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

About 9 hours ago someone set everyone's points to 9999999. Looking through the logs and the code I couldn't find any way this could have happened, but I did notice that the permissions on our directory were rather lax. Any Dreamhost user could have accessed the folder and got the database password, which would explain the lack of logs

I've changed the database password and the authentication cookie salt, which means people who had "Remember me" enabled will need to log-in again. This is to stop the person from being able to log on as anyone they like in the future

Your passwords will be safe, because they're hashed and stored using a salt which means they can't be looked up in a table, but they could have looked at your e-mail

No files were altered, because outside users could only read the files but not modify them

The database backup is from ~9 hours ago, and game times were moved forward 9 hours. Sorry for the inconvenience, hopefully now this won't happen again, but I'll be watching everything carefully

Centurian (3257 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Thanks Kestas

Fidobot (100 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Would this be the same person who moved Civil Disorder Germany in that one game?

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Also I'm cleaning out the map store, partly because it will contain maps for games and turns which no longer exist, but also because there are ~4gb of maps in there and most of them are for old games

Centurian (3257 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

In one of our league games I had orders set in and the adjudication went through early afternoon. However, now that the time went back all my units were set to hold and there is only a couple hours left in phase. I worry that not everyone is going to get to move and they won't know it.

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Could be fido, I didn't see that

Centurian (3257 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

I hate to be a bother... but one of my games has already reajudicated: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6657
Half the players (including me) didn't have time to re-enter orders. So I haven't taken the centres I was supposed to.

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Actually looking back I didn't set the games ahead enough to account for the backup, I'll restore the game tables and move the time back further

abgemacht (1076 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Thanks for your hard work, Kestas. Keep up the good work!

General Greivous (479 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Some strange stuff is still happening. I've had two games resent back after putting in moves, and now I'm getting a strange thing where i can't build in an open PC where I had previoiusly built (and frankly need to build in). This is wrecking the game.

General Greivous (479 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Is it possible to pause game 7133 "Another Fast Game." The reset has really screwed up the game and a number of players aren't on line and the clock seems to be flying by (12 hours down to 3 in seemingly 15 minutes).

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Greivous, I did move all games back because I found out the backup was older than I thought, that might explain times changing but they should be changing so you get more time, not less :-/

Let me know if you notice anything odd happening

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

(Unless it moved back far enough that you moved back a turn)

Pandarsenic (1485 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Kestas, it seems that it's no longer possible to make a build somewhere you built pre-reset if there was a phase completion during the rolled-back time.

Pandarsenic (1485 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Unrelated note, I'm going to be sad if I'm deprived of my Mediterranean Blockade in a game where I just set one up....

General Greivous (479 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Kestas - can you please just pause "Another Fast Game" - there have been two votes from myself and the only other online member - just so no one gets upset. The reset really overthrew the game (though obviously there was nothing you could do about that - but we should talk before next moves). Oh - and second on the point of the not being able to build where you had built before the reset.

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Can you give an example of that?

Pandarsenic (1485 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7151

This one got its own topic. Rome, Naples, Constantinople.

General Greivous (479 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

I had built a fleet in Rome before the reset (and had subsequently moved it). Now in that game (which has gone back to the build before the move) I am only given the option of building in Naples. No choice in the matter.

MadMarx (36299 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

I'm in a few games that got resolved before the reset, and people saw the outcome, but now everyone needs to re-submit the same orders they submitted last time, even if thngs didn't go well for them? What do we do if people change up their orders to get a different outcome (I assume this is "cheating", right?)??

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Looks like I didn't restore a table in the backup, or the gamemaster was working on a game while I was restoring the old tables, might have to do it again :-( Really have to stop shooting myself in the foot now

Madmarx; I don't know, but there's no fair solution/rule for things like this

thewonderllama (100 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Kestas, any chance you could add say, whatever the turn length is set to to active games? I imagine there are plenty of people who won't be checking in soon enough thinking they have more time than they do before their next phase.

I'd also like to echo the sentiments of others that I appreciate how quickly you moved on this issue and for keeping us all in the loop.

scottkwong (426 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6910

In the above game, we had already gone through the build phase and entered spring orders, but the reset put us back before the builds. Now the game won't let me build in the same SCs as last time. Is there any way to fix this and possibly extend the time again?

valoishapsburg (314 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

I too appreciate Kestas' effectiveness in dealing with the issue.

I would also like to say I understand where Madmarx is coming from. I think it would be fair to reissue the same orders that went into the turns before the games where reset, as understandably anyone who saw the outcome would be able to prepare for it.

sean (3490 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

a similar problem is retreats to the build issue
in http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6007

my italian tyrr fleet was pushed out, i had it set to retreat to naples but now the clock has turned back and it tells me that no retreat options are available

kestasjk (64 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

I've disabled the board, I thought the backup would appear soon after I posted the previous message but Dreamhost are taking quite a while

spyman (424 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

valoishapsburg - I don't know if getting everyone to play the same moves is going to work out. It can't be enforced, and their is no point automatically playing the same moves if there is no guarantee that other players will. Also some players might not remember exactly what they played. I agree in principle but I don't think its practical. The cat is out of the bag, I am afraid. I would be interested to hear what others think.

wooooo (926 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Honor system. Everyone should play their same moves.

valoishapsburg (314 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

Oh, well I know it cant be enforced, nor will it probably happen. I simply think that would be the fair route. Fair and practical arent the same thing in this situation. I was posting that in regards to MadMarx's post.

spyman (424 )
07 Dec 08 UTC

As I said I agree it would be fair. Is that what you are going to do in all your games?
My concern for my games is that my opponents now know the moves I was going to play. I could be fair and play the same moves, but what if they don't? At the moment I am thinking that I am just going to have deal with the situation as I find it - and play my best moves knowing that my plans have been revealed.
I am not absolutely set on this course though - I still would like to see what others think.

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Leon Rey17 (1838

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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In need of a Germany and Turkey

We have two 3 supply center nations that need Generals in http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7197. Current pot:420

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Thucydides (864

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28 Nov 08 UTC

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Hey, Sicarius, it's Black Friday...

Anybody anticipating Sicarius to espouse an eloquent shoplifting/anti-commercialism/anti-capitalism manifesto in the next 24 hours or so?

Because if you want to, Sic, you can always post it in here.

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05 Dec 08 UTC

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Some People Are Guys: Get Used To It

What are folks doing for the holiday season? I am curious... Any interesting plans?

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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Need to pause, but...

Is there any way we can pause the game without seven votes?

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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New Game: Fast fast

Join game Fast fast. 10 hour moves.

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Black Cherry (100

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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Join Legions upon Legions

Join for Fun :)

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07 Dec 08 UTC

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Forgotten Password- Flashman

I'm writing in for Flashman here- as he has forgotten his password, he can't log in to post.
Could Kestas please send Flash his password too? Many thanks

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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Question About Points-per-supply center

When someone wins in ppsc, are the points shared exactly proportionately, or does it favor the actual winner?

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07 Dec 08 UTC

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How did I get points?

I lost a game named For Glory..........and I gained 50 points?!?!?!?!
Someone explain!!!

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08 Dec 08 UTC

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Please Join

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7220

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xgongiveit2ya55 (789

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07 Dec 08 UTC

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Help!

I can't view any of my games. I log on, and click a game tab and I get redirected to the logon page. I've tried closing the browser and not selecting 'remember me'. Can anyone help?

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TheGhostmaker (1545

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07 Dec 08 UTC

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League Notice on roll back

If the game you are in has been set back by a phase, for fairness' sakes you are expected to order the same moves as you did before. I hope everyone will comply, because, if they do not, it will be a right headache for me to get to the bottom of it.

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