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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
24 Jan 14 UTC
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The next top 7 active gunboaters' game invitation
The game should start arround 10th of February and the roster is
still uncomplete;
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
12 Feb 14 UTC
1897/8/9
http://www.diplom.org/Zine/S2000M/McCullough/1898.html

Any thoughts?
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
10 Feb 14 UTC
Briggs-Meyers vs Diplomacy Statistics
Just wondering if anyone has ever done a statistical analysis of won-loss records for a given country against the personality archetypes of those playing said country.
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kasimax (243 D)
12 Feb 14 UTC
lack of armies in f2f
i don't get to play face to face games very often, but the last times i did, i noticed that in the board game version (at least the one we played), there is only a limited amount of armies and fleets for every power, namely nine fleets and nine armies. the rulebook suggests (if i remember correctly) that if you run out of armies (or fleets, but that is unlikely) that you have to use fleets instead, which strikes me as a really odd concept. am i missing something? or how do you all handle this?
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Mujus (1495 D(B))
08 Feb 14 UTC
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Sincere Question
Guys, Abgemacht posted in the Bible Verses thread to ask me if I think I am some sort of eProphet. He and I have both noticed that this thread, unlike the previous Daily Bible Reading thread, has very few posts except for my one daily post.
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ssorenn (0 DX)
11 Feb 14 UTC
Are the some who want to learn to trade equities?
If there are novices out there that are interested in learning options trading for themselves, check out what these guys are doing...http://dough.com

they are taking the jargon out any replacing things with probability
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
12 Feb 14 UTC
Samuel L ........ Jackson gives him 5 of the best !!
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2014/02/11/la-newscaster-apologizes-for-black-actor-mix-up/

Samuel L owns ignorant white news reporter ....... brilliant !!
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 Feb 14 UTC
This is the source of the River Gambia, just thought I might share
https://24.media.tumblr.com/68efddbd8522419f4689bd857d02f99e/tumblr_n0j8yr2WaV1qav5oho1_500.jpg
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kasimax (243 D)
11 Feb 14 UTC
religious positions towards theodicy
dear christians out there (or in fact, any other religious people as well),

this always interests me when talking to religious people: do you have a (personal) position towards the theodicy, or what do you generally think about it?
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Lord Baldy (100 D)
11 Feb 14 UTC
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RED HOT SEX
Just thought i'd get your attention! This place seems to be full of bible bashers and Americans, now my cheese burger eating cousins I can cope with as long as you don't try pronouncing tomatoes, but if anyone tries to redeem my soul, I shall insert a large garden gnome up their bottom. YANKEE DOODLE DIDDLY DANDIE, YEHAW! Or whatever it is passes for greetings in these parts.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
09 Feb 14 UTC
I like chess
Does anyone want to play chess with an amateur so we can all improve? Anyone know good online ways to play? I think it would be fun to pair of and play game after game with the same person to learn their style
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frenchie29 (185 D)
10 Feb 14 UTC
Opinions on Variants
I'm a relative newbie on the site and have played all but 1 game on the classic map. The one game I am playing on another map (Ancient Med) I am not enjoying it as much. And its not because I am doing terribly, because I am tied for most SCs and have a good ally. I was wondering what the general opinion on the different variants are, as in which is the best and whether you prefer the original map or a variant map as your favorite game. It will be interesting to hear feed back from a lot of you.
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shield (3929 D)
11 Feb 14 UTC
Diplomacy Clock
Anyone have recommendations for a good program I can download to use as a clock for diplomacy games?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
10 Feb 14 UTC
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Online Privacy - The Day that we Fight Back
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Feb 14 UTC
Old Mexico
http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21595434-old-mexico-lives

All those Mexicans, living in... Mexico...
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Ogion (3882 D)
09 Feb 14 UTC
What is your favorite Italian Opening?
I've enjoyed the discussion about Austria, so I thought I'd move on to ask about Italy.
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Ogion (3882 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
What is your favorite Austria opening?
I have to say I've played Austria only rarely but it has always stumped me. Obviously having good press and not getting stabbed is key but I'd love to hear people's thoughts on Austria
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oscarjd74 (100 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
Winner Take All or Points Per Center
Which do you like better and why?

I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I'm new and too lazy to search for old threads.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
Churchill and the "soft underbelly of Europe"
Discussion of Churchill's strategic vision, or lack thereof...
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Maniac (184 D(B))
06 Feb 14 UTC
Is the lepanto opening over rated?
Discuss please
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
09 Feb 14 UTC
The national and worldwide effects of American Energy Independence
Discuss
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
09 Feb 14 UTC
To the player France in Gunboat 499
Fuck you.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
09 Feb 14 UTC
Unrated games
They have them on vdip now, and I think we could use them too.

Bet size 0, doesn't affect any stats. This way people can't worry about stats when playing in the Masters for example, making it genuinely only about the tournament without having to cancel. Just one of many reasons to introduce this.
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ThatPCguy1 (202 D)
09 Feb 14 UTC
Can you surrender in web diplomacy?
You only have 1 SC and are about to go away, you won't be able to take your go and everyone is waiting for you, How do you surrender?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
09 Feb 14 UTC
Pacifist variant.
Fun game, (can everyone read the global chat?) gameID=82542

I think it's a pity it ended when it did... Has anyone else tried something like this?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
04 Feb 14 UTC
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On The Forum
Hello All,

Some people have requested a slightly more official thread (see: "Hey, Krellin") in which to discuss Forum Policies.
If you have any thoughts, please feel free to share them here.
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2ndWhiteLine (2596 D(B))
08 Feb 14 UTC
My 2013 running map
http://i.imgur.com/61Ko0oc.jpg
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ssorenn (0 DX)
07 Feb 14 UTC
bit-coin
hope no ones has any
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Feb 14 UTC
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
07 Feb 14 UTC
I have a 1000, I am hoping to sell them and retire soon......
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
07 Feb 14 UTC
Well, you won't be selling them on Mt. Gox...
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
07 Feb 14 UTC
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No, I thought if I sell them on Mt. Everest I'd get a higher price.....
ssorenn (0 DX)
07 Feb 14 UTC
would anyone buy at these prices?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Feb 14 UTC
I'd hope i had them, but to sell, not to buy...
ssorenn (0 DX)
07 Feb 14 UTC
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Sell Mortimer sell
y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
07 Feb 14 UTC
I got some. I'm hanging onto them.
spyman (424 D(G))
07 Feb 14 UTC
Probably a good time to buy. Bitcoin is like a yo yo.
ssorenn (0 DX)
08 Feb 14 UTC
The market loves people like you
spyman (424 D(G))
08 Feb 14 UTC
Personally I am too skeptical of bitcoin... but let's see. According to coinmill 1 bitcoin is currently USD$659. Interesting to see where it is at one month from now. Any guesses?
nesdunk14 (635 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
Definitely a good time to buy, but why invest in that when you can just buy a miner and make your money back real quick? Probably $800-900 is my prediction.
spyman (424 D(G))
08 Feb 14 UTC
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I heard mining had become too hard for the average punter.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
08 Feb 14 UTC
i don't think you can make your money back real quick with the current technology. There are too many people investing in the mining technology - and the amount of bitcoin rewarded depends on the percentage of the total computational power you provide; Everytime some new hardware comes out the cost of doing the computation drops and everyone loads up with more processing power. So if you're just 12 months late you aren't contributing enough power to make it worth your electricity...

I have a friend who's been mining for a while, but not doing it for profit, just for fun and to see what happens.

@spyman, the average punter dedicates their graphics card to a mining pool, and every time the pool finds a coin it is subdivided between the members based on how much processing power they've contributed. After that some people buy low wattage devices (~14W) which can only solve the bitcoin algorithm, though since they're usually attached to a laptop that's another ~65W, even though all you're really getting is the connection to the mining pool, where you submit your work...
Devonian (1005 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
Most miners will never get their investment back. I paid $200 for some mining equipment about 2 months ago and have about $5 worth of bitcoin to show for it. And mining gets harder and harder. I do it for fun though, because I think it will revolutionize the world as much as the internet has. We just don't know how yet.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Feb 14 UTC
The time to mine for BTC is long past. If you want to be a miner, you're better of mining LTC.
Devonian (1005 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
Not anymore. They just came out with asics for LTC. So by the time you start, your hardware will be obsolete. If you do it, do it for fun. Or just buy it when it is cheap like it is now.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
08 Feb 14 UTC
Really? I thought the whole point of LTC was it was supposed to be harder to design an ASICS for.

Oh, well. You'd best wait till the next *TC becomes popular.
Devonian (1005 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
I think the best way to get any of them is to just buy the coins from someone else. The only reason to mine is for a hobby or to experiment.
spyman (424 D(G))
08 Feb 14 UTC
What do people think of dogecoin? It's been getting a lot of favourable press in Australia lately.
Devonian (1005 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
I think it has potential, but they have a way to go. It isn't really any different than bitcoin, except that a lot more are mined, so they are much cheaper. There are about 45 Billion Dogecoin right now, compared to 12 million bitcoin. Psychologically, having 6000 dogecoin seems like a lot more than .01 bitcoin, but they are worth about the same.
tendmote (100 D(B))
08 Feb 14 UTC
It kills me that people don't know Mt. Gox = "Magic The Gathering Online eXchange"

People gave real money to this?
ssorenn (0 DX)
08 Feb 14 UTC
Save your money,mine for fun,but if you find a way to sell this stuff short you will probably be happier in the end
tendmote (100 D(B))
08 Feb 14 UTC
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Is there a way to short bitcoin in a venue that isn't also going to seize up ("temporarily?") with the contents of your account?

What I don't understand is, what is the narrow range of "civil disorder" where dollars and euros and yen are no longer desirable, but bitcoins are? The level of chaos where bitcoins, or even gold, are supposed to be "handy to have" is a tiny distance away from the level of chaos where people stronger than you just take everything you have.

Devonian (1005 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
@Tendmote, there are other uses for bitcoin, not just a hedge against governmental currency manipulation. Banking is possible, without a bank. Money transfer is possible across continents without wire transfers. The high transaction costs currently associated with credit cards and paypal are almost zero.

The last one is huge. For example, a gas station profit margin is about 2.5%. But, a credit card charges about somewhere between 1.5 to 3% fee for transactions. If a gas station took bitcoin, they could DOUBLE their profit.

y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
08 Feb 14 UTC
I play poker with bitcoins
http://sealswithclubs.eu

Use "slider37" as the referrer when you join :)
tendmote (100 D(B))
08 Feb 14 UTC
@Devonian Some friction in financial transactions is actually desirable, though. From a security standpoint, it's *bad* to be able to instantaneously transfer money to another continent with no intermediaries. Those intermediaries are the ones who chase down and roll back fraud and theft. With bitcoin, if someone accesses your account and drains it, how can the transaction be busted and rolled back? It can't.

y2kjbk's point is more sensible. Bitcoin is for vice.
Devonian (1005 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
How can "friction" be good?

I understand that from a security standpoint, the fee's might be fine for the person who holds the account. But there is no benefit for a seller to pay transaction fee's.

But even that that could probably be handled another way. One example might be to have multiple wallets with independent access points to hold the funds. That would require someone to access all your accounts individually to drain them.

I disagree that Bitcoin is for vice. At least, it is no more useful than cash or other forms of money for vice. Bitcoin transactions leave a permanent and public record of he transaction. Cash purchases of contraband leave no permanent public record. Cash is still king for vice.
tendmote (100 D(B))
08 Feb 14 UTC
@Devonian

"Friction" is good in that it slows things down and provides more ability to detect and counteract fraud. This is a service, conducted by an intermediary that is trustworthy and reputable, and it costs money.

More-or-less *nobody* is going to make the effort to safeguard their own wealth in "multiple wallets with independent access points" in order to save transaction costs. People are terrible at security. Their passwords and PIN numbers are a joke. Some people might try it, but given the average person's inability to keep anything secure, the ratio of "people trying it" to "horror stories about drained wallets" will be sufficient to ward the masses off.

The real security is in the institutions where the money is stored and transacted, the very banks, credit card, and paypal services you're trying to cut out. They're the ones that add the friction to the system to keep things from going instantaneously shitwards even though your password is "ABC123". And that costs money. Price might be a bit steep, but it seems to be worth it, in that people do pay it and Paypal doesn't quite own the world.

Anyway, without institutions to detect and prevent theft, there will never be a critical mass of bitcoin users sufficient enough to make it worthwhile for businesses to transact in it.

Now, if banks *totally took a shit and fucked things up even worse than bitcoin*, then maybe. But they're not quite that incompetent.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
@ Devonian: " there is no benefit for a seller to pay transaction fees"

Of course there is. As tendmote has touched on, the benefit to the seller is that he can have some certainty that the buyer's money is real.

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pjmansfield99 (100 D)
08 Feb 14 UTC
Mods
Check email please - live game.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
07 Feb 14 UTC
CBS
CBS are bringing back the Streets of San Francisco with Karl Malden and Michael Douglas .....
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