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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
22 Jun 15 UTC
Melbourne Diplomacy Championships 3-5th July
This is in two weeks in Melbourne, Australia! Come be crowned the Victorian Champion! PM me for details, or join the Australia/New Zealand email list:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/daanz-dip
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
27 Jun 15 UTC
Definitions
I'm working on some statistics reporting for webdip, and I'm interested in what the forum thinks: Are "Gunboat" games just games with no messaging, or are they games with no messaging that are also anonymous?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
29 Jun 15 UTC
Abraham Lincoln, anti-oligarchist:
"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy."
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Kusiag (1443 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
Need 2 players!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=163269
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
26 Jun 15 UTC
Lusthog history
Does anyone know where the Lusthog diplomacy variant came from? I can't find references to it outside of webdiplomacy- is it an in-house invention? Who gets the credit?
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Chumbles (791 D(S))
28 Jun 15 UTC
Drowning not waving ...
I think there is scope for helping new players.
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tvrocks (388 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
Rainbow facebook friends
so, i have looked through my friendlis and out of around 98 people, i only have 2 people who have rainbow picks. I am in the center of utah in a community of around 70% mormons, so mine is probably way lower than average. I want to compare it to how off from the usual it is, so how many rainbow friends do you have?
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ILN (100 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
Village creates own currency, moscow buthurt
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/06/anger-moscow-russian-village-prints-currency-150628143029075.html
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
28 Jun 15 UTC
Can someone with a perma-silence reply to my PM?
What it says on the tin.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
27 Jun 15 UTC
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The Battle For Marriage Equality Must Continue
There is still one large group of people whose marriages are not recognized because of discrimination that has a long and ugly history
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Ace881 (100 D)
28 Jun 15 UTC
Battle Of The Swords: gameID=163673
-One Day Phases And Starts At ~1:00

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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
27 Jun 15 UTC
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More game statistics
See inside
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
27 Jun 15 UTC
How's this for a court ruling?
Since everyone is interested in court rulings today, here's an interesting one:

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jun/24/dutch-government-ordered-cut-carbon-emissions-landmark-ruling
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wawlam59 (0 DX)
26 Jun 15 UTC
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Please Help
Need a dip map in high resolution
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pangloss (363 D)
26 Jun 15 UTC
Cloudy with a Chance of Fire and Brimstone
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33290341
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

Welcome to the 21st Century, America!
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jibaba244 (0 DX)
27 Jun 15 UTC
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+91-7726060256 girl vashikaran specialist baba ji
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jibaba244 (0 DX)
27 Jun 15 UTC
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+91-7726060256 love marriage specialist baba ji
ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
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jibaba244 (0 DX)
27 Jun 15 UTC
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+91-7726060256 love problem solution baBA ji
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yassem (2533 D)
27 Jun 15 UTC
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Action Man
I think I'll just focus on digging up cool stuff on the internet:
http://battlefieldcasualties.co.uk/
This is one of the best social awareness videos (or whatever you call that kind of stuff). Strong.
Btw, 16-year-olds? Seriously? ._.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
26 Jun 15 UTC
sitter needed
Can someone sit my account July 3-5?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Jun 15 UTC
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SS Does Boston F2F Live Blog!
Check here and @webdiplomacy for updates, pics, and play-by-plays!
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ZS (211 D)
26 Jun 15 UTC
support move
if i do a support with B a move from territory A to C, and on the preview map it shows an black/grey arrow from A(north coast) to C and a red arrow from A to C, and the support from B is on the grey arrow, will the support fail?
Both units are armies
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
24 Jun 15 UTC
The Leagues Discussion/Critique
I wanted to post this thread while the Leagues were still going and participants were checking the site. Basically I just want to know what you all think of the tournament and my job as a TD, in general.
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Thick newbie
Is the password needed to join a game different to the password used to login? If so, where do I find it/set it?

Regards
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KingCyrus (511 D)
22 Jun 15 UTC
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Riddle Me This
I recently saw this riddle and I thought it was a good few minutes of fun. Enjoy.

Please don't post the answer on the thread, but you can PM to verify if you got it right.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
23 Jun 15 UTC
We have around 31,000 Full Press classic games
How many would you say are WTA?

(other moderators are not allowed to answer, since I've already told them)
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
18 Jun 15 UTC
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Nutjob gun owner kills nine people
The President of the United States:
"At some point, we as a country have to reckon with the fact that this type of massacre does not happen in other advanced countries".

Discuss.
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krellin (80 DX)
24 Jun 15 UTC
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OMG....Let's get hysterical....
Yes....so....feel free to comment, because it's what you live for.
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Gronch (100 D)
23 Jun 15 UTC
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Stalemate Lines
Could someone explain the concept of a stalemate line and the maneuvering surrounding it? Much obliged
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Jun 15 UTC
Radicals vs ?
A recent conversation made me look once more at what i think of politics...

Also i have a clear idea in my head if what a radical is, but what is their opposite? A non-radical? A (small c) conservative? A compromiser?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Jun 15 UTC
So i was recently described as a radical, maybe not in so many words ( actually it was more words) but i also think it drove my friend (who is likewise left-leaning and agrees with me on many political issues) to join a mainstream political party.

The centre is the safe political ground, it supports the status quo, and thus those currently in power. It supports the systemic inequalities; it supports protecting all the freedoms we currently have. It protects us from the 'Evils of Anarchy'. It represets the great compromise - the social contract agreed by the majority which is the ultimate source if democratic power; thatthing which is so hard to pin down, but which we all revere as the bad system, but the best we've come up with.

So what is a Radical? Someone who seeks more than reform, they seek revolution. Someone who sees the evils of the system and can't sit idly by. Someone filled with energy for change. To improve things, even if i means sacrificing a few small comforts in the short-term.

Obviously this is not synonymous with the left-right divide was so often talk about. What is radical thought today may be main stream tomorrow. The Radicals may push the center line this way an that. But is it a useful dichotomy? And where do you feel you sit?

Also, what compromises would push you towards or away from the center? (I can imagine gun ownership and abortion being pretty contentious issues but, for the sake of example, could they drive you to revolution?)
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 Jun 15 UTC
Moderate?
yassem (2533 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
From a strictly empirical point of view - radical vs rational.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
24 Jun 15 UTC
I'd put Pacifists at the other end.

'But they don't do a whole lot in politics!'

Exactly why there will always be change, I guess.

The only thing neccessary for change to triumph is for pacifists to do nothing?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
Radicals seek revolution, not evolution. Radicals believe revolution does not come with change from within a system--it is a change *to* the system from top to bottom. Therefore, radicals are *necessarily* violent. Non-radicals do not believe in violence. If you have "radical" ideas but are not violent, then in my mind that puts you on the fringe of thought.

The political opposite of radical is not middle-of-the-road. Politically central groups can support changes to the status quo, but not big ones. Centrists see trade-offs as good things and compromise as necessary.

How about trans-radical?
yassem (2533 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
I'd say pacifist is one of the types of radical. Mind that especially in case of politics it's not that radical is on the end of some line, I'd say it's on the edge of some plane or even some sphere or whatnot. IMO rational approach is in the middle, and radicalism is everything you've got on the edges.
yassem (2533 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
Jeff Kuta, you describe radicals like it's only revolutionists, but what about radical conservatives or reactionaries?
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
You could be a radical conservative sure. The Iranian Revolution was an example of this. ISIS is also a more contemporary one in their attempt to restore a caliphate. Radical to me is very strictly about willingness to use violence to effect change.
yassem (2533 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
I wouldn't go so far. As I said, for me radical is the ability to accept lack of rational arguments. And of course, once you stop using common sense it's an easy way to get involved in violent movements etc., so there surely is correlation here.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Jun 15 UTC
Jeff, i wouldn't be so extreme as all that.

I count myself a pacifist and radical both. Non-violent forms of protest may he less effective, but they certainly hold more interest for me than violence. Take a look at farmers striking in France. They slowly drive their tractors along the main motorways towards the capital, they block traffic and prevent trade. Very disruptive, but peaceful ( if not passive )

@Yassem, I also don't see rationality as the measure of a radical. Maybe we're used to seeing radicals spouting ideas, ideas so foreign to use that common sense tells us they can't be rational. Maybe we are too used to dismissing them as irrational, just because their premise is flawed.

And maybe they are irrational to think they can change the world ( as one white man in the US tried last week by murdeing 9 black citizens ) all on their own. This you could equally call irrational. And maybe it is a failing of the sustem that there exists no market for people who want to change the world for the better... (Apart from charity work in the developing world, we seem to think it noble to save the savages, when we should be saving ourselves aswell.)

But before i digress, that you can't see or understand someone's rationalizations is more a reflection of you than of them. (Though they may also fail at communication)
jbalcorn (429 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
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Look at the base of the word radical - the same as the math 'radical'. A radical _should be_ someone whose ideas are outside the main stream of thought - at the edges, as a radius of a circle is the distance from the edge to the center.

I don't think it necessarily means revolutionary, although many people are both radical and revolutionary.

The opposite of radical would have to be centrist, since if you go to the opposite side of the circle, you're still on the radius.

Now, what it SHOULD mean, and how we use it, that's different. When I was younger, radical ALWAYS meant politically left, and the opposite was reactionary. But I think that's wrong. So really, we should probably almost always use it as an adjective or adverb - radical environmentalist, radically progressive. radically reactionary would actually make sense!
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
@orthaic: I guess it partly gets to connotations. I'd consider the striking farmers in France to be activists, but not radicals. They don't want a change to the system, they just want a better contract and are taking to the streets peacefully to demonstrate their fervor.
MarquisMark (326 D(G))
24 Jun 15 UTC
I was taught that radicals are left wing extremists and reactionaries are right wing extremists. Moderates and centrists are at the middle of the continuum and to the left and right of that are varying degrees of either liberal or conservative. Any extreme behavior sometimes gets called 'radical' but technically that's a misnomer. Only extreme liberals are radicals.

To define opposite depends on what kind of opposite, ideologically opposite or, say, temperamentally opposite? Left and right extremists are ideologically opposite but trmpermentally very similar.
jbalcorn (429 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
@MM - that's what I learned (I don't think I was ever expressly 'taught' that), but the word itself isn't supposed to have any left-right connotation. It was almost always used to mean left 30 years ago, but I think we've gone more to the original meaning of "on the edges", whether left or right.
MarquisMark (326 D(G))
24 Jun 15 UTC
Yeah I learned that in poli-sci class. This was in the 90s though, when the left-wing radical stuff of the late 60s and early 70s was still a little more fresh in people's minds and many of the profs and teachers lived through all that stuff. I could see that word losing its original political attachment now, since those extreme left wing political groups are pretty much extinct.
Tolstoy (1962 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
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Radical (so I am told) is derived from the Latin word for "root". In my mind, a radical is a "rootist" - someone who has deeply held personal convictions (moral, religious, philosophical, etc) that form the root of their political beliefs. These deeply held personal convictions often result in "extreme" "unreasonable" or "irrational" political opinions from the perspectives of people who value consensus, stability, conformity, the status quo, and the importance of 'getting along'.

IMHO, it is not a 'left' or 'right' term. And you can have people who are generally moderate but radical on a particular issue or issues (which is one of the reasons I hate political labels and the concept of the one-dimensional political spectrum in particular).
MarquisMark (326 D(G))
24 Jun 15 UTC
"And you can have people who are generally moderate but radical on a particular issue or issues "

Ah, good point.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
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Acceptable, respectable, presentable, vegetable.
Crazy Anglican (1075 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
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@ JK

There are times, when all the world's asleep, that questions run too deep for such a simple man :-)
Ienpw_III (117 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
In a world where liberalism (as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism not as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States ) is the status quo, liberal is a good opposite to radical. Conservative is a good general opposite, but this can lead to confusion (note that by this usage, liberals are conservatives).

I tend to use "reactionary" as the right-wing version of radicalism where it entails a radical return to an old style of society.
demon321x2 (100 D)
24 Jun 15 UTC
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I consider a radical to have three things
1) Extreme views against the current ways- Ban all guns, communist, always balanced budget, whatever
2) Steadfast about them- They don't compromise on those views for better or for worse, they believe that their view is absolutely correct and won't stop until the system has changed, if they radically believe in multiple view they generally won't accept compromising one to advance another
3) Vocal- Since they believe they are absolutely right they try to make everyone else share their views, sometimes through discussion, sometimes through force, sometimes by simply shouting it to the world

orathaic (1009 D(B))
25 Jun 15 UTC
I must say, i never thought radical meant left wing...

Though google did suggest radical vs reactionary to me, i think the radical vs liberal/conservative is much more to my liking.

Thanks for the input, interesting to see how others use language.
jbalcorn (429 D)
25 Jun 15 UTC
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@ JK

I could be so dependable, Clinical, intellectual, cynical.

Damn. I'm having a flashback.
jbalcorn (429 D)
25 Jun 15 UTC
@Tolstoy - you are correct, I am wrong. It's not related to radius. And it has a definition with a synonym of revolutionary. But I still say it has more to do with deep-seated beliefs than left-right.


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