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Gunfighter06 (224

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28 Dec 12 UTC

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webDip music

Do you guys listen to any music when playing, especially during live games? If so, what do you prefer for songs/artists/genres?

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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Reasons Not to Use the Forum

1.) I'm here.

Keep em coming. There's more, though that is obviously the biggest.

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27 Dec 12 UTC

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I'm done debating evolution

And I think most people here are too. Please stop trying.

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27 Dec 12 UTC

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Five-way game?

Hey, sorry to ask (as I assume this is addressed somewhere), but is there a way to elect to play a five player game (as in, I have four friends I want to play with).
Other sites allow this, but I like the webDiplomacy interface so I'd prefer to do it here if I can.

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Octavious (2701

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22 Dec 12 UTC

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Obama: Ruthless or Clueless?

One of the big stories of Obama’s time in office was the death of Osama, which was widely regarded as a good thing despite no real effort being made to go down the arrest and trial route more normally associated with the good guys. Still, the way he was found raised a few eyebrows.

Octavious (2701 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

The CIA sent an agent under the guise of a medical man working on Pakistan’s polio immunisation campaign. Ironically the Taliban have for years been causing problems to this campaign by saying it was a Western plot to sterilise Muslims, but thankfully wiser heads were prevailing. By actually using this cover, however, the CIA gave the Taliban message a lot of credibility.

Some days ago eight polio workers in Pakistan were murdered, and the campaign halted. We can now expect the polio epidemic to march onwards unhindered, possible spreading back into India and leading to many more cases.

So the question is this. Was Obama aware of what the CIA was up to, and simply considered the lives of children and aid workers a small price to pay for finding Osama, or did he play a very limited role indeed in the death of Obama with little knowledge or influence in the actions of the CIA?

Ruthless or clueless?

redhouse1938 (429 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

I'm not sure if, if he knew about this, his actions were ruthless. He can't really help it that the Taliban are a bunch of lunatics who probably feel that western music comes from the devil (or any music for that matter) and who believe in flying into civilian buildings with airplanes.
I believe a "whatever it takes approach" is quite acceptable here.

Jamiet99uk (873 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

How do you expect anyone on this forum to be able to answer your question with any certainty, Octavious? I have no idea what level of micro-management the President is able to excercise over the day-to-day running of CIA operations. How would I?

Octavious (2701 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

I don't expect much certainty in any part of life, Jamie. But political types live and die by the perception the people have of them, and people can state with absolute clarity what it is they percieve.

Jamiet99uk (873 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

Ok then. My guess would be that the President wouldn't have known the exact details of the plan - ie he may not have known that the polio campaign would be used for cover.

Octavious (2701 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

Obama did make a point of telling the secret services that torture was a bad thing and they should really stop it. He gave the impression that he was going to at least attempt to run things like a decent person with basic human principles would. It strikes me that using polio staff as a cover is no different whatsoever to the likes of Saddam and Gadaffi using human shields to defend military bases. If it was intentional, fair enough... I will have to change my view of him. If not, it's simply not good enough to claim ignorance when you know full well the CIA has been acting darly for some time.

Jamiet99uk (873 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

That's a fair point.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

#inb4putinandkrellin

shield (3929 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

I can't tell if this a serious conversation (in which case... lol....) or you're just trolling.

Octavious (2701 )
22 Dec 12 UTC

How would this be trolling?

mapleleaf (0 )
28 Dec 12 UTC

You forgot to add a third choice: helpless. I'll go with that one. As if he actually runs things. He's a talking head.

philcore (317 )
28 Dec 12 UTC

the first 2 aren't even mutually exclusive. He could be ruthless AND clueless. Sadam and Kim Jung ill come to mind.

Personally I don't think he really gives a shit about anything outside his political career. So that can lead to ruthlessness for sure. But he also seems clueless most of the time.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
28 Dec 12 UTC

+1 mapleleaf… can't blame him for being the guy that Congress throws under the bus every time.

SantaClausowitz (360 )
28 Dec 12 UTC

any tipping off of sources and trying to "Capture and try" Osama based on extradition ran the risk of Pakistani supporters tipping him off. It is also fact that the SEAL team, from members of the team itself was under orders to capture Bin Laden if feasible. I disagree with your premise in this case. The mistake with the polio team is more releasing that information. The response to the press should have been "we have his body, you have x number of days to take hair samples etc, then we are burying his ass in the ocean" and left the part about the polio doctors remain a secret. If anyone wanted to know details about the mission let them FOIA and wait 15 years.

Randomizer (722 )
28 Dec 12 UTC

The CIA used to have news reporter as a cover for years until the press had too many real reporters captured and tortured as mistaken spies. You are always going to have people killed because they have the same occupation as a cover.

You don't see cooks being killed after it was reported that Julia Child worked for the OSS during WW II.

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28 Dec 12 UTC

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Faith In Humanity + Sanity = No Solution

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/mayan-temple-damaged-end-world-parties-173634842--abc-news-travel.html

Why the fuck are people so fucking stupid? These things are here thousands of years and people fuck it up because of their dumbass superstitions. This happens with human and natural wonders all the time… why?

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28 Dec 12 UTC

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question re: convoys & support

If someone is convoying an army to a new location, and wants to support that move, do they need to support move form the army's location, or support move from the last sea location in the convoy chain?

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Dharmaton (2398

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25 Dec 12 UTC

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Can we remove the Ancient Med. from this site?

It is a bad map, too lopsided and too few players to make the game any fun to play most, and by far, of the times...

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Socrates Dissatisfied (1727

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19 Dec 12 UTC

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PPSC Game?

Anyone interested in a good full press PPSC game (I'm not bothered about pot size, phase length or if it's semi-anon or not)?

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KnightGeneral (1342

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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Mr Gunboat EOG

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=105641

Well played everyone. Fortunately France only dropped when a draw was certain. Austria was a very tough opponent, but with the start I had as Turkey and no way to coordinate with Russia and Italy I was able to blitz through the defenses. Was never really sure why so little progress could be made in the west.

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27 Dec 12 UTC

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Favorite Christmas Present

What ya'll get for Christmas?

Got this from my girlfriend: http://www.kinektdesign.com/product-gear-ring.php
Wicked excited for it to arrive.

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Lando Calrissian (100

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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PEAK GR LISTS

Any way to get banned players off of these?

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Lando Calrissian (100

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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Lusthog Squad

two of three are finished

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KaiserWilly (664

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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Banning recently?

I returned to this site a few weeks ago after about a year's hiatus, and it appears to me that there has been a lot of banning of accounts recently. In at least three of the five games that I've been playing in the past week at least one player has been banned mid-game. Are the mods clamping down on metagaming or is this something that's just become standard fare while I've been away?

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TheMinisterOfWar (553

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21 Dec 12 UTC

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Solo-win / Draws

As somebody who's used to the original Dip rules, I always thought of Dip having one winner only. There is no second place. But here, I seem to have to get used to draws as a regular game ending. So I'm curious, what criteria do people have for draws? When to draw? When to solo?

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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WebDip Fantasy Football

Now that the season is done.. who exactly was who on there. I just couldn't figure everyone out.

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Commander_Cool (131

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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Coastal Fleets and Armies

Alright, so say a fleet from Player A moves onto the coast of a territory. At the same time, an army from Player B moves into that same territory. Will they bounce? Or will the army take control? Or is it something else entirely?

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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7 simultaneous 101 Gunboat No Press 1 day games

Need 3 more for mini tourney flight one! Loving the format. Post Christmas players step up!

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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Players needed!

... for a medium pot, WTA, full press diplomacy game (gameID=106978). Join up if you feel the urge to play!

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25 Dec 12 UTC

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EoG Silence Kills 11 game 107005

Good game! If England hadn't messed up and given me St. Petersburg, I don't know if I would have been able to solo! That 18th SC is the toughest to get as Turkey.

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2ndWhiteLine (2611

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25 Dec 12 UTC

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Merry Christmas!

Hey webdip! Stop arguing, complaining, attacking, supporting, and holding and have a merry Christmas! Even you krellin!

#krellinissanta

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Commander_Cool (131

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26 Dec 12 UTC

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Convoy into Landlocked Territories?

What it says on the tin - can a fleet in a coast area convoy an army into a landlock territory adjacent to the fleet?

IE, could fleets in the english channel and Brest move an army from London to Paris in one move?

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25 Dec 12 UTC

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106993 Excellent Game!

Great Game!

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jmo1121109 (3812

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25 Dec 12 UTC

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Happy Holidays Everyone

If anyone needs some extra time to get orders in over the holidays send an email to [email protected] and we'll try and prevent any NMR's.

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22 Dec 12 UTC

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Gunboat Mini-Tourney? 7 games @101, 1 day turn

Up for 7 consecutive @101 Gunboat games? We will play 1 day turns and compile total earnings. We can have multiple flights if there is enough interest, but one flight satisfies my inner beast. Let me know and I'll send passwords. Winter Breaking in style!

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24 Dec 12 UTC

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"Superstars"

They prove to me over and over again that they simply aren't as good as the team they belong with. It's not just the big three American sports; hell, it's not just sports in the United States. Which superstar trade was the worst? And no, it's not Dwight Howard - not yet at least.

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23 Dec 12 UTC

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The psychology of lying

Can someone explain the real joy of lying to seek unfair advantage ....... is it a moral defect? What is the pleasure derived from winning by deception, especially when you gain nothing in status and no financial gain. I find it completely fascinating at what is gained, what does it do for the soul?

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25 Dec 12 UTC

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Good News!

http://news.yahoo.com/u-n-approves-debate-arms-treaty-opposed-u-021426613.html

The United Nations is doing something worthwhile! Woo!

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24 Dec 12 UTC

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Another sad and senseless gun tragedy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20838925
4 heroes ...... 2 in hospital, 2 at the morgue
why would you target firefighters..

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Octavious (2701

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24 Dec 12 UTC

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Staring into the Abyss

On this dark day the threat of war looms across the Atlantic. After over a century of friendship the USA is close to war with the United Kingdom and her Empires. Before events escalate past the point of no return I give you this final warning...

Force Piers Morgan back on us and we will wipe you from the face of the Earth!

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