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Spartan22 (344 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Fast World Game?
Is anyone interested in a fast (say 12-14 hours) world game, full press?
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taos (281 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
world aids day
share your tougths
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Culture and Imperialism-3
WTA Anon Gunboat, 25 hour phase, 300 D (roughly), passworded invitational.

Please post your interest here and I will set up and send out passwords in the next few days.
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King Atom (100 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Hey everyone, guess who's back for the holidays?
I'm guessing more than 50% of you will get that question wrong.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Can you crack it?
http://www.canyoucrackit.co.uk/

British spy agency recruitment device. I thought some of the coders here may know what the heck this is?
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mr.crispy (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Theology
Writing an Essay on John Polkinghorne Carl Sagan Richard Dawkins and John Haught, does anybody have any ideas how I should structure their arguments, assuming you've heard of them?
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
30 Nov 11 UTC
World game, relatively high stakes!
Dear All. Trying to set up a world game 101 D, WTA, non-anon, gameID=73479 We need five more players! Looking for reliable players, trying to keep this one free from CDs and NMRs. We'll pause during Christmas and New year. PM me for password! Hope you'll join!
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
01 Dec 11 UTC
rules question
3 powers -france, italy and austria

austria has F ADR and A TRI, Italy has F TUS and A VEN and France has A PIE and A TYR.
What happens if the following orders are sent in

AH
A TRI- VEN
F ADR s A TRI - VEN

Italy
A VEN - PIE
F TUS s A VEN - PIE

France
A PIE-VEN
A TYR s A PIE-VEN

Assume no supports are interrupted.
zara (100 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Piedmont and Venice bounce and Triest takes Venice.
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Nothing. No units will move.
Rancher (1652 D(S))
01 Dec 11 UTC
I think zara is right ...
But would PIE and TRI not bounce? Or does VEn cancel the move out completely? I am stumped.
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
No, Piedmont and Trieste have bounced in Venice. The supported move to Piedmont from Venice does not nullify the Piedmont to Venice, it's just another bounce.
Rancher (1652 D(S))
01 Dec 11 UTC
nothing has broken Adriatic's support into Venice, and nothing is supporting Venice ... wait I am wrong as is zara - Geofram is right I think ... sorry
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
I ran it through an adjudicator just to be sure. Every unit will remain in its original position.
mr.crispy (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Where is that adjudicator, I want to practice my moves haha
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
http://realpolitik.sourceforge.net/

The best method for testing a certain set of moves is to go to Map -> Edit Map (or Ctrl + E) then click on any space on the board and you can change what unit is on it or who owns it.

After, press Ctrl+E again and you can enter moves. The bottom left has your three choices. To enter support, select the middle tool (the black dot), click on the unit that will do the supporting, then click on the unit it is supporting, then click on where its moving (or click it again for support hold). Convoys are done in the same manner.

Happy to answer questions about it.
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Oh, duh. After you've entered all the moves. Go to Orders->Resolve (Ctrl+R) and then Orders->Commit(Ctrl+K)
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
The reason it bounces is not because of Ven, but because Tri and Pie boucne off each other. Ven could have played tiddlywinks while Tus chased after girls and you would have had the same result.
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
No one ever said it was because of VEN.
The most concise way to explain it is:

Piedmont and Trieste have equal force going to Venice (2). Thus beleaguered garrison; thus no dislodging, all hold.
Piedmont and Venice have equal force going to one another (2). Thus standoff; thus no dislodging, all hold.

All moves occur simultaneously, thus it is impossible for one move to "cancel" another move in the manner described in this situation. We think of it that way mentally because we go "Okay, Piedmont and Venice move, negated, check. Now test Trieste and -- huh, does it cancel out?" Because we first checked Piedmont/Venice, and saw standoff with no movement, and THEN applied Trieste, we mentally associate the moves as occurring in that order instead of simultaneously, hence the confusion. (Same thing in reverse, that is if you check Piedmont/Trieste and then apply Venice.)
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
I know it is small potatoes, but how is THAT more concise than:

No, Piedmont and Trieste have bounced in Venice. The supported move to Piedmont from Venice does not nullify the Piedmont to Venice, it's just another bounce.
The Czech (40297 D(S))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Geofram, I've downloaded realpolitik. How do I install? I've unzipped the file, but can't find an exe file to run.
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Sounds like you downloaded the source code.
Assuming Windows, you want Downloads->Windows->Realpolitik(Win)->1.70 Alpha1 Binaries->RPsetup-1.7.0a1.exe
Mac has the same, just a .dmg and Alpha2.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Is it just me or has Geofram been a little feisty lately ;)
The Czech (40297 D(S))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Got it. Thanks.
I used to have it on my old cpu but haven't really needed/wanted it. Seeing you post made me want it. Thanks again.
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
I was talking about Lando's question, Geofram. I should have pointed that out. Sorry.
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
Yeah, almost a Draugnar light when Draugnar's meds are all fucked up. That's right, fucktards, I referred to myself in the third person! :-)
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
I used the source to build a behavioural modeling system based off previous games. Really fun, but also makes you shit at F2F. Now I just use it to visualise gunboat games.
"I know it is small potatoes, but how is THAT more concise than:

No, Piedmont and Trieste have bounced in Venice. The supported move to Piedmont from Venice does not nullify the Piedmont to Venice, it's just another bounce."

The concise part ended after the second "all hold." lol
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Even then. 26 words > 36 words. =P
Mr. Beleaguered Garrison

@Tom, its finals week which means a ton of grades to make, my own exams, and several of evaluations/papers, but I don't think I've been feisty eh?
butbutbut MY XPLUHNAYSHUN IS BETETETER :(
uclabb (589 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
"I used the source to build a behavioural modeling system based off previous games."

Does that mean you can plug my past games into your system and predict my moves?
Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
In a nutshell? Sure.
Speech habits, login/logout times, message times, opening moves, reactions to others opening moves, backstab habits, total points, points in play, and of course past performances sorted every which way by country, game type, other opponents, etc.

These sources of data, to name a few, all help to determine who is who in an anonymous game, help to predict opening moves, help to know when the player will be online so I can have long chats or know who's talking to who, help force out stabs or prevent them. Gunboat games even help predict moves in press games when press is purposefully not given. Live games are especially vulnerable because people tend to revert to what they know when under the timer's thumb. There are probably angles and uses that I haven't even thought of.

That is the most difficult part. Using the data. Visualising the data. That's where Realpolitik lent a hand. Sure you create a file on your opponents, basic data like online times, best and worst countries, ancient forum posts they cared about (make friends over the same off topics and players respond), again etc. But looking at moves, seeing the animations, watching a list of the most likely moves of your opponent against a list of your own most likely moves? You need an adjudicator that doesn't mind being told what to do.

It's important to note that this was quite a while ago. Certainly before I was approached about becoming a moderator. The project was successful in some areas and a disaster in others, the most useful FBI file that came out of it was the one on myself and it made me stop crafting lies, which is my favourite aspect of Diplomacy.

Plus, right after Boston, me and MM got in an argument over the usage of said data and he pretty much hit the nail on the head with "I haven't checked your stats, but have you won 100% of your games, and if not, why not if all this data is so damned valuable?! I don't pay attention to jack shit and I'm doing well enough. The defense closes, your witness." Though I speculate some of the conversation helped him decide to make his double-blind invitational. =P

And don't ask me to share any of it with you. I'm not even sure where the majority of the stuff is let alone the desire to pick through it and I really don't think it was a good idea to begin with, a fun project at best, but if the goal was becoming a better diplomacy player, the time would have been better spent elsewhere.

I've got to go convince all the restaurants on campus that lasers are going to save them thousands and thousands of dollars. Been working on this presentation for weeks, haven't slept, and just realised I don't have a clean pair of socks. Wish me luck!


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LakersFan (899 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Convoy Dislodgement
Quick question on a weird situation:
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LakersFan (899 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Script issues on convoy orders in a World Game
Hello. I am playing in a game right now. Here is the link:
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Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Dec 11 UTC
Texts From Bennett
http://textsfrombennett.tumblr.com
Just made my night.
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IANCD (108 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Non-full Games?
I have a group of friends, and occasionally we like to get a live game going. Sometimes, however, we are unable to gather enough people for a full game, even for the Ancient Mediterranean variant. Some sites allow for a rule change if there are less than seven players (6 players = no Italy; 4 players = 1 person plays as 1 power, the other three play as a pair; etc.). Is there any way to do that on this site, or are we stuck with trying to scrounge up players to fill the game?
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saintgeorge (213 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
How do you spot people who are playing 2 nations in an Anon Gunboat game?
I'm in a game where there are three nations left and two of them seem to be cooperating as well as avoiding any agressive moves, even when they would be good moves to make.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
The George Will Thread
The leading opinion writer around today is definitely worthy of a thread.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
30 Nov 11 UTC
55CC Live Game Club
Welcome to the new live game club on WebDip! This thread is a friendly place for everyone to utilise to create password-only live games of all variants. Everyone is welcome. 55CC places strong emphasis on sportsmanship and friendliness - and the hope is that this thread will create an open community space for regular live gamers to join together, discuss, and have familiarity with other classy, sportsmanlike live gamers worth playing with.
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Sydney City (0 DX)
01 Dec 11 UTC
1 more
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=73693
1 more
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MKECharlie (2074 D(G))
30 Nov 11 UTC
Site Rules Clarification Question - Peer Pressure to Cancel
In winter 1901, 6 out of 7 players vote cancel due to an early CD. Does it violate site rule #5 to tell the holdout that we'll gang up on him and eliminate him if he doesn't also vote cancel?
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bukar (117 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
how do i spot a Gunboat diplomacy game?
I do not see any gunboat dip games listed. How do i spot 1? I joineds an anonymous game thinking it is gunboat. It was not.
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saintgeorge (213 D)
01 Dec 11 UTC
How do you spot people who are playing 2 nations in an Anon Gunboat game?
I'm in a game where there are three nations left and two of them seem to be cooperating as well as avoiding any agressive moves, even when they would be good moves to make.
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
29 Nov 11 UTC
How to fix the United States
If you are a realist and not some idiotic idealist who lost contact with the real world long ago this is the thread for you.
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10 Favourite countries in the world and why?
Write bellow. Pardon my English.
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playbake (0 DX)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Anon, no messaging games
Any advice on how to play them? I'm fairly new at them...and I'm used to communicating with other players...how can you communicate your ideas to players if you're stuck being silent?
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oris1024 (100 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Beginner, play vs AI sites/games before playing here?
Hello,
I'm a beginner. I had read the rules some tactics and followed a few finished games of other players, but would still like to practice against AI/Computer. This is so that i don't have to drop out on other good players here if i make a silly mistake, but load a "save". Question below:
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Irkalla (100 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Ancient Med Live Game! Anyone want to join?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=73634

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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Mod team
Please check your email.
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timdcoltsfan (1099 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Can we get something done about this game?
I am not sure but it seem like it has been at least 6 months that this game has been paused. Egypt put in an un-pause shortly after the pause and has never checked back. Cath is winning and he put in an un-pause, I'm sure to hope to get the win. Either way, can we do something about this game. I am so tired of seeing it at the top of my home page. Cancel it, un-pause it, or draw it something Please. http://95.211.128.12/webdiplomacy/board.php?gameID=56608#gamePanel
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TheJok3r (765 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Question About Convoys...
Alright, so I was looking over a past game and saw a specific turn that made me wonder what would happen.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
30 Nov 11 UTC
EOG: Sunboats-0
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=71789

Short version: What the hell were you thinking, Italy?
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DoctorJingles (212 D)
30 Nov 11 UTC
Live game interest thread
Anyone interested in a live game? Gunboat or non, I don't care. I just want to play...
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Geofram (130 D(B))
28 Nov 11 UTC
The Gauntlet
New tournament beginning in Q1 2012, you're going to want to get in on this.
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