lol sorry bud that is one of the most common stalemate lines in the game.

Ohh lol never did it before..thanks for telling me.

good game though!

Not really a stalemate line, seeing as you were still fighting in the south...

also true you should have won why did you draw?

oh wait players didnt show im guessing

Turkey was going to win, imho, since France was helping Turkey

That's... a really common stalemate line, though in fairness it's rare for a Russian player to get it, so in the sense that Russia pulled it off it was very much nonstandard.

gameID=30548

England set up a stalemate position with his 10 centers that Turkey and I (Austria) couldn't crack with our combined 24. Granted, we might have kicked him out of HOL and KIE eventually, but he could have held those other 8 centers against us indefinitely. I thought it was a pretty cool stalemate position.

Umm, you could have kicked him out of Kiel right away...

@Triumvir, (re: gameID=30548), that's a very standard minimal English stalemate position for playing against two non-atlantic powers that won't stab each other. He could even give Hol and Kie, and just keep a fleet sitting in Den. That would be only 8 SCs against AT's 26.
He could even drop back to 4 SCs, but that would risk losing out on the draw (since one of AT might be able to stab for the win at that point).
http://www.diplom.org/Online/StalematesAtoY/northern-progressive.htm

England can survive quite easily if France, Germany, and Russia (i.e., the powers with access to Atlantic) have been taken out. The AT alliance is quite unconventional. You played it as well as you could. Against players that aren't complete idiots, a 3-way draw is probably the best possible outcome an AT alliance going all the way to the end.

Many stalemate lines have been well documented are widely known. Innovative lines are usually just simple variations.

http://www.diplom.org/Online/StalematesAtoY/
http://www.diplom.org/Online/StalematesAtoY/visual.htm

@ Kingdroid - I know that. I said we could have kicked him out of KIE and HOL. The point was that his other 8 centers formed a stalemate line.

@ Yebellz - I assumed that the stalemate position was known. It wasn't one I had come across in a game before that one. In general you are probably right - most if not all stalemate positions on the map have likely been found at this point.

cool thread