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kaner406 (356 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
I thought it would be nice if,,,
for those optimists out there.
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xpedior (707 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Maddening
The tactic of not finalizing moves in a live game becauase you are not happy with the way the game is going is amazingly childish.
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spyman (424 D(G))
27 Jan 11 UTC
The official complaints thread
If have some thing to complain about post here. This is also the sympathy thread. So if you wish to sympathize, post here too.
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AncientMemories (635 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
Questions
Couldn't find another thread for this, so i made one. This is here to ask questions mostly.
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Rommeltastic (1126 D(B))
26 Jan 11 UTC
World War One Set Alliances
I know it didn't work before, but I want to try it again.
Each team has to play until they're the only ones left, and Italy decides who to join starting in Spring 1902. Other than that, I think it's pretty simple. Anyone interested?
Spryboy (103 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
I am
figlesquidge (2131 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
I was thinking: you could have quite an interesting game playing teams on the Chaos map - it would be like having a load of Generals all making the case for their own Battalion.
Spryboy (103 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
THAT IS AN AMAZING IDEA! We should create it on Vdip.
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Actually, we had a very successful team game. It's just that the teams were *very* flexible in the end and two independents banded together ( ^_^ ) and pretty much decided which team would win.
Rommeltastic (1126 D(B))
26 Jan 11 UTC
If anyone here has heard of the "Crowded" variant, that would be best for a team game. It's the Europe map, but there are a few new countries.
DEN/SWE/NOR as one.
HOL/BEL/RUHR (An SC in this variant) as another.
SER/BUL/RUM/GRE as another (They get four because, well, everyone hates them.)
SPA/POR/TUN as the last one.

It's rather interesting, but I don't know where to find it.
SacredDigits (102 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
It's on Vdip.

I'm down with doing a fixed alliance WWI game.
butterhead (90 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
@rommel, they have it on Vdip...
Spryboy (103 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Crowded us only on Vdip. I got the Balkans one game, and yeah, everyone hated me.
butterhead (90 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
haha, It seems to be that, Unless you are Norway or Spain, you seem to get screwed early if you are one of the 4 new countries...
Rommeltastic (1126 D(B))
26 Jan 11 UTC
I played it before as well, got Spain. I ended up sitting there until I lost. Not fun as them, but it might be interesting with set alliances.
centurion1 (1478 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
i remember that dragunar...... ah good times for me good times for me
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Jan 11 UTC
I believe I was one of the controlling partners as well...
Draugnar (0 DX)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Here it is...

gameID=32682
airborne (154 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Hmmm is Vdip is the new Olidip? Can I get a link
figlesquidge (2131 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
^^ Its exactly the new Olidip - he changed URL.
http://vdiplomacy.com
WWI sim is gonna be kinda boring tbh

Also, does Italy have to hold? Lepanto?
Rommeltastic (1126 D(B))
27 Jan 11 UTC
Italy normally holds, to make them less of a wild card until people are established.
Hmm.... I know! All-hold until 1914, and then in 1914 start the game, for historical accuracy!

And Italy should at least be allowed to get Tunisia, I think.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
@PE: All hold ad. infinitum. However, at some point someone will loose their cool (I don't know, maybe because their archduke was assassinated) and suddenly it will all flare up.
Must say I find it rather sobering to think of it that way because actually in those years leading up to it, people must have know it was going to burst.
youradhere (1345 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
I'll play. We tried this before but Germany went into CD in Year 1.
My history textbook describes the period from 1900-1914 as rather tense. Everyone knew the question wasn't "if" but "when." Nationalism riding high, arms races everywhere, lots of backdoor diplomatic wheeling-and-dealing, extracontinental skirmishes... It sounds like the big scare about nuclear war in the 50s and 60s and 70s (as I've heard it described from parents and grandparents), but with conventional arms (obviously) and the fact that it, y'know, happened (also obviously).
fiedler (1293 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
As Mr Blackadder once said: "it was simply too much trouble NOT to have a war."
Cleverer than a brain pie he was.
joey1 (198 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
I've done this twice before. In game 1 we agreed to a 7 way draw when it was clear that the allies were going to get crushed and it was not going to be very fun, and then in the second game with the Germany CD. I would love to try it again, but only after Feb 8th or so when my wife and I bring home our fourth child from the hospital (planned C-section Feb 4th).
JNewton (391 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
yes
Putin33 (111 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
"My history textbook describes the period from 1900-1914 as rather tense."

There were a number of wars leading up to 1914. Russo-Japanese war in 1905 (which led Germany to believe Russia would be defeated quickly in 1914); Austrian annexation of Bosnia in 1908 (a flagrant violation of the Treaty of Berlin); two Balkan wars right before 1914.

And for historical accuracy, France held Tunisia in 1914. This was the reason behind Italy being a member of the Triple Alliance initially.
ulytau (541 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
Concerning the 'tense' atmosphere, here is an excerpt from Niall Ferguson's Ascent of Money, where he argues that prevailing pre-war opinion about practical impossibility of great war in a world with intertwined economic interests is similar to today's view that war between let's say USA and China is impossible:

"To many businessmen - from Ivan Bloch in Tsarist Russia to Andrew
Carnegie in the United States - it was self-evident that a major
war would be catastrophic for the capitalist system. In 1898
Bloch published a massive six-volume work entitled The Future
of War which argued that, because of technological advances in
the destructiveness of weaponry, war essentially had no future.
Any attempt to wage it on a large scale would end in 'the bankruptcy
of nations'. In 1 9 1 0 , the same year that Carnegie established
his Endowment for International Peace, the left-leaning
British journalist Norman Angell published The Great Illusion,
in which he argued that a war between the great powers had
become an economic impossibility precisely because of 'the delicate
interdependence of our credit-built finance'. In the spring
of 1 9 1 4 an international commission published its report into the
outrages committed during the Balkan Wars of 1 9 1 2 - 1 3 . Despite
the evidence he and his colleagues confronted of wars waged à
l'outrance between entire populations, the commission's chairman
noted in his introduction that the great powers of Europe
(unlike the petty Balkan states) 'had discovered the obvious truth
that the richest country has the most to lose by war, and each
country wishes for peace above all things'. One of the British
members of the commission, Henry Noel Brailsford - a staunch
supporter of the Independent Labour Party and author of a fierce
critique of the arms industry (The War of Steel and Gold) -
declared:
In Europe the epoch of conquest is over and save in the Balkans and
perhaps on the fringes of the Austrian and Russian empires, it is as
certain as anything in politics that the frontiers of our national states
are finally drawn. My own belief is that there will be no more wars
among the six great powers.
Financial markets had initially shrugged off the assassination
by Gavrilo Princip of the heir to the Austrian throne, the Archduke
Franz Ferdinand, in the Bosnian capital Sarajevo on 28 June
1 9 1 4 . Not until 22 July did the financial press express any serious
anxiety that the Balkan crisis might escalate into something bigger
and more economically threatening..."

Of course it's mostly anecdotic evidence but it should serve as an counterargument to overwhelming expectance of war. Even members of elite didn't anticipate it. With our hindsight it's easy to disregard their views as foolish but they were simply being rational as the war really bankrupted the nations involved, bar USA of course. However, their militant contemporaries obviously pursued other goals than omnipresent prosperity.
Putin33 (111 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
I have a fascinating book - written in 1912 - by Friedrich von Bernhardi called "Germany in the Next War". Not only does he anticipate war with France & Russia, he talks at great about Germany's war aims and methods during such a war.
ulytau (541 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
Sure, I didn't deny that the opposite extreme was true either. However, Bernhardi was not only a Prussian general, he was the epitome of every stereotype we hold against Prussian militarist nature. Being called 'New Clausewitz' and advocating war as a biological neccessity speaks for itself, really. Predicting something you have direct influence upon (or at least reasonable insider knowledge, he was retired before the war started) is not that difficult. That's why I added the last sentence to my previous post, military establishment wanted war and that's why there was a war. It's always ultimately the choice of current commander-in-chief to pull the plug and Old Walker was under substantial pressure from Germans to do it.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
27 Jan 11 UTC
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=44099#gamePanel
Perry6006 (5409 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
I have done set alliance game myself.
Problem is that this will be the outcome:
- E/F will kill Germany (together w Russia)
- A/T will kill Russia (R might survive in Scand, just because E/F let him survive there..)

So G/R is kind of unplayable.
That is not necessarily bad, but at least you should be aware of the risk, so you dont get disappointed, when you draw G :)

Perhaps people have other experiences?


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malo (913 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
New games...
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Jan 11 UTC
LAST PERSON TO POST WINS!!!!!!!
The title is self-explanatory.
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idealist (680 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
we should make a diplomacy iphone app
what do you think?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Amazing moment in Egypt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtTUsqra-MU
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jmeyersd (4240 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
i hate the world
just heard fox's reaction to the state of the union address. the analyst just came out against education. my god.
also noticed how the first comment he had was on the applause.
other thoughts?
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magnificent (0 DX)
25 Jan 11 UTC
Please Help!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48079 come pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
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pyeargin (100 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Face to Face Play this weekend at OwlCon in Houston
Hey guys...a quick message from Conrad Woodring, the North American Diplomacy Federation President, to those interested in some face to face play in the Houston area this weekend at OwlCon.
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Wolf89 (215 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
What do you think about Italy?
I do not mean "What do you think about Italy as Dip power?", but i DO mean "What do you think about Italy in real life?"
I am really curious about what our reputation along the world is, and more specifically if we are gone to the bottom or even below with Berlusconi as Prime Minister (i will never say he is MY prime minister - and i doubt he deserves uppercase initials)
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The Czech (40398 D(S))
26 Jan 11 UTC
WTA Gunboat-79
Good luck to all.
Nice to have you in the game. Esp. you Barn
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zscheck (2531 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
I'm Back!
Come play a game with me
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48136
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The Czech (40398 D(S))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Live Gunboat
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centurion1 (1478 D)
25 Jan 11 UTC
help
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48102#gamePanel

someone take england it would be greatly appreciated so the german actually has someone to fight....
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The Czech (40398 D(S))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Live gunboat 101 buy in
gameID=48115
starts in 20.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Jan 11 UTC
Howard Zinn - American hero?
I just watched "You can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train" [2004] - and i heard for the first time of Howard Zinn. I was rather impressed, but i wonder what anyone else thinks of him.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
22 Jan 11 UTC
Minecraft Server
I have a MC server. If you'd like to join PM me.
Rules are simple: Don't be a dick.
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Invictus (240 D)
25 Jan 11 UTC
For you pro-leaks fanboys
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/24/nastyleaks?page=full

"Far from a triumph for transparency, the Palestine Papers are a victory for the enemies of peace in the Middle East -- but only if Palestinian leaders embrace Al Jazeera's narrative."
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magnificent (0 DX)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Please Help!!!
I attended the game and the start time 7 players came to a joint-stock arrived, but why not start
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magnificent (0 DX)
25 Jan 11 UTC
Please Help!!!
1 person needs to http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48066
Please come
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Octavious (2701 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Wassailing, anyone???
Just over a week ago I was at the annual Wassail in the village of Kilmersdon. Its a fun little event with much cider drinking, singing, and the firing of shotguns to scare the evil spirits out of the trees. But, much to my surprise, outside of the local area I've not met a single person who has gone Wassailing.

Does anyone else out there still do it? Anyone at all???
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Packers/Steelers Super Bowl: Thoughts? (And CUTLER...!)
Two pretty fun games to watch--unless it was your team losing--as the Packers beat da Bears and the Steelers survived a near-miracle comeback by the Jets to win their conferences, and so Super Bowl XLV will feature two of the most storied teams ever, the Steelers and the Packers! What do yoiu folks think? (And as for CUTLER...oh...oh my...)
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Gobba (2209 D(G))
24 Jan 11 UTC
Protocol Question- "what does voting Draw/Cancel/Pause mean?"
I know what they each individually mean, but in a couple of games I have seen players vote all three at the same time. Is there something special about voting for all three, some suggestion being sent, etc?
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The_Real_LT (317 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Ballaeres - Ancient Med.
My first time playing Ancient Med. I wasn't familiar with the board and when I selected to move my army in Sargentum to Ballaeres (with a fleet in the Berber Sea) it did not give me the option of convoy through , as per usual even with even the most simplest of convoys. I had to go and order the convoy with my ship. Then the non-conyoyed move to Ballaeres was supported via convoy. I'll never make this mistake again but I feel that maybe this should be remedied for all newcomers.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
24 Jan 11 UTC
League update?
So are we getting any closer to getting underway? Inquiring minds want to know.
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centurion1 (1478 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
everybody.
please dont not ready your gunboat orders unless you need to.
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GOD (389 D)
20 Jan 11 UTC
Germanspeaking-Game
Is there any german on this Website ?

I would like to play an Anc.Med.-Game where I can speak german.
Would be much easier for me...
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