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kaner406 (356 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
I thought it would be nice if,,,
for those optimists out there.
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xpedior (707 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Maddening
The tactic of not finalizing moves in a live game becauase you are not happy with the way the game is going is amazingly childish.
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spyman (424 D(G))
27 Jan 11 UTC
The official complaints thread
If have some thing to complain about post here. This is also the sympathy thread. So if you wish to sympathize, post here too.
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AncientMemories (635 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
Questions
Couldn't find another thread for this, so i made one. This is here to ask questions mostly.
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Rommeltastic (1126 D(B))
26 Jan 11 UTC
World War One Set Alliances
I know it didn't work before, but I want to try it again.
Each team has to play until they're the only ones left, and Italy decides who to join starting in Spring 1902. Other than that, I think it's pretty simple. Anyone interested?
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malo (913 D)
27 Jan 11 UTC
New games...
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Jan 11 UTC
LAST PERSON TO POST WINS!!!!!!!
The title is self-explanatory.
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idealist (680 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
we should make a diplomacy iphone app
what do you think?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Amazing moment in Egypt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtTUsqra-MU
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jmeyersd (4240 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
i hate the world
just heard fox's reaction to the state of the union address. the analyst just came out against education. my god.
also noticed how the first comment he had was on the applause.
other thoughts?
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magnificent (0 DX)
25 Jan 11 UTC
Please Help!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48079 come pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
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pyeargin (100 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Face to Face Play this weekend at OwlCon in Houston
Hey guys...a quick message from Conrad Woodring, the North American Diplomacy Federation President, to those interested in some face to face play in the Houston area this weekend at OwlCon.
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Wolf89 (215 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
What do you think about Italy?
I do not mean "What do you think about Italy as Dip power?", but i DO mean "What do you think about Italy in real life?"
I am really curious about what our reputation along the world is, and more specifically if we are gone to the bottom or even below with Berlusconi as Prime Minister (i will never say he is MY prime minister - and i doubt he deserves uppercase initials)
kaner406 (356 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
well Berlusconi seems like a bit of a dude - I mean if I had the power...

fiedler (1293 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Berlusconi sounds like a typical italian - completely corrupt and loving it!

I guess the world doesnt really think of Italy as a political power, but more as a nice place for a holiday.
Talisker (0 DX)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Wow. Stereotypes to the max.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Meh, my picture of Italy stops about a century ago...

When I think of Italy I think of the Land of Dante and Verdi and Virgil and Puccini...

And, truth be told, not much else, really...Mussolini for WWII, and my favorite baseball player and boyhood hero Mike Piazza's a big-time Italian-American and was hitting coach for the Italian World Baseball Classic--but that's about it.
kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
24 Jan 11 UTC
Sex with young prostitutes is bad, but the piles of trash, stagnant economy, and collapsing ruins are worse
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Damn kestas...how DO you feel? ;)
spyman (424 D(G))
24 Jan 11 UTC
I think Italian politics sounds like it a lot of fun. Otherwise, I think of Italian food, enthusiastic conversation with lots of hand gestures, and jealous women (my girlfriend is Australian-Italian). The thing that appeals to me most about Italy is the history, especially the Roman Empire and the Renaissance.
I also think of a rich north and a poor south.
I also wonder why the Italians in Italy are so stylish, while the ones in Auatralia are so tacky.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
24 Jan 11 UTC
first it was nice in italy, but than the huns came and now its just 1 of those barbarian territories... :)
ok, serieus now, i don't like italy much because its to hot for me (i'm from the netherlands...), but the roman things you have there are nice...
and its always better than greece where i couldn't find any place to eat greek (or something like that :))...
Raffaello (361 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
@spyman
"I think Italian politics sounds like it a lot of fun"

Do you mean making politics or following it? Making it can be: having lots of power and using it for your own interests. Following it is not just depressing and frustrating: it is also extremely boring. Discussions are never factual. Everybody discuss about what some other person said. You have no chance to know what was the original problem. You just ear the fights... At least I now ear them from far away.

@ spyman
"I also wonder why the Italians in Italy are so stylish, while the ones in Auatralia are so tacky."
Clever you noticed. Most italian emigrants around the world came from rural Italy and cannot be considered representative of those living in Italy. Furthermore they mostly emigrated around 50 years ago...

Besides the stereotypes, Italians are often very nice, fun and creative people.
chamois (136 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
I think Mafia ruin the reputation of the country.
Jamiet99uk (873 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
@ kestas: "Sex with young prostitutes is bad"

Not necessarily.

I mean, if by "young" you mean "underage", then yeah that's bad. But if they're young but perfectly legal, having sex with them could be quite nice really.

I'm such a lovely person, aren't I?
chamois (136 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
And mafia is still a big problem in Italy.
fiedler (1293 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
my uncle once flew into rome, rented a car, and *attempted* to drive in the city. Half an hour later he was giving the car back to the rental agency - rome trafic too scary for him! - and he has spent a lifelong career in motorsport!
ulytau (541 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Berlusconi is simply a political animal who knows damn well how much fun he may have without any tangible negative consequences for him whatsoever. So I don't despise him at all, he behaves like a typical spoiled brat with the exception that he wasn't spoiled by his parents but by Italians themselves who may be disgusted by his behaviour but apparently don't care so much to get him out of power.

I don't remember a single recent article, essay or paper which would point out to Italy as a rolemodel for other countries to emulate. That fact itself may speak for something. On the international stage, Italy basically accounts for nothing, at least in comparison with its relative large area and economy in scale of other European countries.

Also, Italians should be happy for the existence of France, which is the usual scapegoat of "military incompetence" jokes although both countries are pretty much equal in their military prowess.

Other than that, there are surely nice and bad people living in Italy, just like everywhere elese.
kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
24 Jan 11 UTC
@obiwanobiwan: I have nothing against italians ofc, I'm just saying that I've read worse things about the italian government recently than a sex scandal involving one individual.

The definition of "underage" varies from place to place jamiet, so I used "young" instead (perhaps "too young" would have been better, but for a 70+ year old I figure "young" is enough")
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Italy is a beautiful country. People who've never been there are missing a lot. No other place on earth has such an aesthetic appeal... and driving is quite ok.

Berluskoni is better than most other politicians. Big deal if he sleeps around, there're more important things to look for in a ruler...
Victorious (768 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
@ Ivanov, I hope you are joking about Berlusconi. He not only sleeps around, he changes laws not to be prosecuted, there are big leads about him having connections with the maffia, and he abuses his power and has compleet control over 90% of the media.

Italy is a great country with nice food, lots of old history and culture. But the goverment sucks and the econemy has to improve a lot, especialy in the south. Dit i already mentioned the maffia?
fiedler (1293 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Yes Italy is a fantastic country with a massive fundamental corruption problem in its culture. I propose that the germans should take over the government and do all the boring stuff whilst the italians get on with living la dolce vita.
Octavious (2701 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Well... before I went there all I had to go on was the mix of schoolboy knowledge and myth that had Italy painted as the comical incompetents of Europe. It was essentially seen as the home of a once great culture that had, in recent history, gone from being the centre of inept comedy Facism under Mussolini, to being the centre of inept comedy democracy with more leaders in 50 years than any self respecting nation should have in its lifetime.

But then I went there and prejudice was replaced to a large extent by experience. Sadly, however, my opinion did not change a huge amount. The Italian population seems to be made up of a startling number of men who believe the best way to introduce themselves to women is by pinching them on the arse. Driving, in the cities at least, is a nightmare with suicidal scooters and poorly maintained, yet rather expensive looking, cars fighting for ever square inch of space. The street corners seemed to be populated exclusively by thieves wearing large multi-coloured socks (I am still at a loss to explain this...). The least said about the Vatican the better, although the Italians have wisely insisted that this is another country and washed their hands of it.

From a tourist's perspective Italy has pretty much taken the view that it is full of great things that people will come to see whatever they do, so they don't bother making much of an effort. The leaning tower of Pisa, for example, is pretty much just a slightly wonky tower next to a church surrounded by at least 50 gift shop/market stalls, each of which sells exactly the same things as the one next to it.

Still, the people, by and large, are a friendly bunch when encountered outside of cars and public transport, and there are a lot of things to see that are truly beautiful. They can also not be beaten when it comes to making pasta and ice cream, although the Italian skill of cooking seems sadly limited to these areas.

Nice place to visit... wouldn't want to live there.
Putin33 (111 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Berlusconi is a joke and an embarrassment. I feel sorry for Italy and hope they finally kick him out for good soon.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
24 Jan 11 UTC
My opinion, and no offense is meant here, is that Italy is a country that transitioned to western governance only on the surface. At heart the state remains corrupt in the manner of Middle Eastern, Eastern European, and African states, with the same "strongman mentality."

So I think of it similarly to the way I view Russian "democracy" though not quite as bad, since opposition leaders aren't being brutalized to the same degree.

A pretty poorly governed country lol. I have to say. At least from what I've read. I still want to visit Rome. But yeah.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Yep, they truly are backward. Strange how despite being all lazy and corrupt Italy has higher GDP and higher productivity per person than Britain...
Putin33 (111 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Brutalize what opposition? Nemtsov? He went to an a demonstration that did not have a permit. Guess what happens when you do that? And guess what happens when you mouth off to police officers? You get arrested. I've been to demos in the US, the same thing happens. Many of my colleagues have been arrested for unauthorized protests. Nobody here is claiming opposition is banned.
Putin33 (111 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Italy GDP (PPP) $1.823 trillion $31,300 per capita
UK GDP (PPP) $2.226 trillion $36,500 per capita

Nope.

http://www.indexmundi.com/italy/gdp_per_capita_(ppp).html
http://www.indexmundi.com/united_kingdom/gdp_per_capita_(ppp).html

Reports of Italy's supposed rise above the UK have to do with currency depreciation in the UK.
baumhaeuer (245 D)
25 Jan 11 UTC
My thoughts on Italy: people go to school until they're almost 30, which, among other things, contributes to a low birth rate among the natives.
I suspect a lot of people over there have a sense of entitlement, given that some girl sued her father for college tuition or something like that (she was 30) and she won!
Plus, that prime minister is HILARIOUS!!! I love it!!!
*Pope* "Bad boy! Stop that!"
JOESAM (100 D)
25 Jan 11 UTC
Rome is a cool place to hang out and Serrento is the most beautiful place I have ever seen. It makes Northern California look like Newark, NJ. As long as they have these attributes working for them it doesn't matter how corrupt they are, I will still visit from the US whenever I can. I'm a Sicilian-American, so I am obviously biased.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
25 Jan 11 UTC
oh christ putin just go away.

in b4 "he's wrong so he just dismisses me"

i just get really really sick of getting into it with you. russia is not democratic.

if you like that, ok, fine, that's a different topic, but don't pretend its fully democratic.

just... don't.
Maniac (189 D(B))
26 Jan 11 UTC
I honestly don't care if the Italian PM is having consentual sex (providing the law defines the woman as being of an age that she can give consent). What concerns me is that this is the only thing I know about Italian politics, is this because I'm ignorant, or because the media is always fixated with sex and politics and never just politics?
Raffaello (361 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
Maniac, you are opening a can of worms. Besides all stereotypes mentioned, my country does have serious problems. The scandal mentioned is just a sign of the ethics of our leading politicians.
As a matter of fact, the main goal of most politicians and administrators is to keep their power and improve their personal situation. Their actions are done not with the purpose of improving the situation for all citizens. The goal is to please and reward the groups, the people and the companies which allow them to keep their position. As a consequence, too much money is spent and this money doesn't improve the situation. It just increases the country debt.

I am not saying that the citizens are completely innocent. I was just trying to throw some light on how politics in Italy works...
fiedler (1293 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
stereotypes exist for a reason ...... they're hilarious! :)
And oftentimes not that far removed from the truth, if we're honest with ourselves.
Talisker (0 DX)
26 Jan 11 UTC
That doesn't mean that all Americans are loud and fat. Or that all British people drink tea and play cricket.

Stereotypes are often accurate but only in giving you information about a certain part of a group, often and seemingly, the most distinguishable part of that group. They certainly don't represent the group as a whole though.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Raffaello, your politicians don't sound that different from what we've got in the U.S.
Raffaello (361 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
If anything, politicians are judged much more harshly than in Italy and they have to respond for what they do, if it is illegal.

In Italy if you criticize the prime minister you are either a bigot or a communist. More often a bigot communist. If you criticize the politicians you are a populist.
Jamiet99uk (873 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
@ Ivo :"Strange how despite being all lazy and corrupt Italy has higher GDP and higher productivity per person than Britain..."

Source?

Sorry Ivo but most of the sources I've checked tend to agree with Putin that the UK's GDP is higher than Italy, both total, and per capita.

Can you give a reliable source for your claim?
Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Independent of Putin (that's the dip player) 's interesting claim of a vibrant Russian democracy (let's not hijack this thread :), my perception is aligned with those above. Politicians and the system are corrupt (what other western nation, other than Russia, allows a single person, let alone the PM, to control 90% of the media/newspapers/TV/whatever it is.

In the end, however, it IS a vibrant democracy and the politicians, and their behavior is a clear expression of what the populace desires in their government. So while I'm amazed they continue to elect Berlusconi, one can argue that the values he demonstrates in public office...are values endorsed by the population in general.
(Having said that, I'm fairly liberal, and when we had President Bush in office, I would have hated the generalization that his values or judgements were the same as my own. They were just the values of 51% of the population, at the time of the election!)
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
@Jamiet - I just did some research - looks like currently UK is slightly ahead. Used to be Italy - and again expected to overtake the UK next year. Obviously currency exchange rates are a key factor, being thr other multiple...

My point was that Italy is a strong country economically when compared to Eng/Fra/Ger - regardless of whether there's a 10% in either direction - so obviously they are not all lazy, corrupt or Mafia. This is a mass delusion shared mostly by people who haven't been there.
Putin33 (111 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
No, Italy never led the UK. The Tory press made a big deal about Italy "overtaking" the UK in 2009. Turned out not to be true since they didn't bother to take into account exchange rates by using PPP and instead simply 'measured' output according to market exchange rates.

Look at this ridiculous article by the Guardian, who should know better. They claim Italy will "overtake the UK" even though at the end they say Italy's economy is expected to do worse than the UK in the coming year. How does that even make sense?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/dec/08/economy-gdp-uk-italy-france

The picture is even clearer when you look at public debt in Italy vs UK, the UK is much much healthier, even at the height of the financial crisis in the UK. Italy's debt is over 100% of GDP. Italy is a mess.



Jamiet99uk (873 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
@ Ivo Ivanov: "...obviously they are not all lazy, corrupt or Mafia..."

For the record, any money laundered by the mafia through front companies would show up in Italy's GDP. Mafia revenue is still revenue. So the GDP doesn't prove anything one way or the other about how much economic activity in Italy is connected to the mafia. Just a small point.


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The Czech (40398 D(S))
26 Jan 11 UTC
WTA Gunboat-79
Good luck to all.
Nice to have you in the game. Esp. you Barn
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zscheck (2531 D)
26 Jan 11 UTC
I'm Back!
Come play a game with me
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48136
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The Czech (40398 D(S))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Live Gunboat
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centurion1 (1478 D)
25 Jan 11 UTC
help
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48102#gamePanel

someone take england it would be greatly appreciated so the german actually has someone to fight....
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The Czech (40398 D(S))
26 Jan 11 UTC
Live gunboat 101 buy in
gameID=48115
starts in 20.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
24 Jan 11 UTC
Howard Zinn - American hero?
I just watched "You can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train" [2004] - and i heard for the first time of Howard Zinn. I was rather impressed, but i wonder what anyone else thinks of him.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
22 Jan 11 UTC
Minecraft Server
I have a MC server. If you'd like to join PM me.
Rules are simple: Don't be a dick.
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Invictus (240 D)
25 Jan 11 UTC
For you pro-leaks fanboys
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/01/24/nastyleaks?page=full

"Far from a triumph for transparency, the Palestine Papers are a victory for the enemies of peace in the Middle East -- but only if Palestinian leaders embrace Al Jazeera's narrative."
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magnificent (0 DX)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Please Help!!!
I attended the game and the start time 7 players came to a joint-stock arrived, but why not start
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magnificent (0 DX)
25 Jan 11 UTC
Please Help!!!
1 person needs to http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=48066
Please come
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Octavious (2701 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Wassailing, anyone???
Just over a week ago I was at the annual Wassail in the village of Kilmersdon. Its a fun little event with much cider drinking, singing, and the firing of shotguns to scare the evil spirits out of the trees. But, much to my surprise, outside of the local area I've not met a single person who has gone Wassailing.

Does anyone else out there still do it? Anyone at all???
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Packers/Steelers Super Bowl: Thoughts? (And CUTLER...!)
Two pretty fun games to watch--unless it was your team losing--as the Packers beat da Bears and the Steelers survived a near-miracle comeback by the Jets to win their conferences, and so Super Bowl XLV will feature two of the most storied teams ever, the Steelers and the Packers! What do yoiu folks think? (And as for CUTLER...oh...oh my...)
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Gobba (2209 D(G))
24 Jan 11 UTC
Protocol Question- "what does voting Draw/Cancel/Pause mean?"
I know what they each individually mean, but in a couple of games I have seen players vote all three at the same time. Is there something special about voting for all three, some suggestion being sent, etc?
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The_Real_LT (317 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
Ballaeres - Ancient Med.
My first time playing Ancient Med. I wasn't familiar with the board and when I selected to move my army in Sargentum to Ballaeres (with a fleet in the Berber Sea) it did not give me the option of convoy through , as per usual even with even the most simplest of convoys. I had to go and order the convoy with my ship. Then the non-conyoyed move to Ballaeres was supported via convoy. I'll never make this mistake again but I feel that maybe this should be remedied for all newcomers.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
24 Jan 11 UTC
League update?
So are we getting any closer to getting underway? Inquiring minds want to know.
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centurion1 (1478 D)
24 Jan 11 UTC
everybody.
please dont not ready your gunboat orders unless you need to.
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GOD (389 D)
20 Jan 11 UTC
Germanspeaking-Game
Is there any german on this Website ?

I would like to play an Anc.Med.-Game where I can speak german.
Would be much easier for me...
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