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abab (1312 D)
15 Nov 07 UTC
convoys and retreats
Quick question on this implementation of Diplomacy.
I remember a fleet that is forced to retreat cannot convoy an army anywhere. So, convoy orders get nullified in case the would-be convoying fleet has to retreat.
Is this rule implemented this way in phpDiplomacy?
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Otto Von Bismark (653 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
Tournament Question
Kestas is there any way the winners of the Diplomacy tournament be awarded points for the position they finish in the tournament. Lets say 2000 points to the winner and 1000 points for second place etc. If those point values are too high I understand, but if something like that is possible, I think it would make the tournament much more worth while.
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rtcdvm (565 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
RTC - Everything you will ever want to know.
It seems that most people understand what is going on with the "rtc" accounts. But, there are skeptics out there, and I can't blame people for feeling like something shady is going on. Here is everything a person would ever need to know.

1.) I am Doyle McClellan, director of the Information Technology program at Rolla Technical Center. I first played Diplomacy in the 1980s and have long seen the benefits of incorporating it into the program.

2.) This is for the Negotiation Strategies & Techniques segment of the IT program. It is taught because information technology professionals often find themselves thrown into the middle of organizational rivalries where they must find a way to survive and become productive.

3.) We use the book, "The Mind and Heart of the Negotiator" for a text. The game makes a great companion to the coursework. It gives us plenty of common experiences to draw from. For example, I can tell people about "linkage effects" (the effects that one negotiated agreement can have on future negotiations). But, it means a lot more when we can discuss how Player-A was treated by Player-B after what he did in the last game.

4.) We have used multiple copies of the board game for years. This year, there are most students than normal, and they come at different times of day. The result is that we have to constantly reset the board, and it takes too much time. For the last few weeks, we have experimented with various computer-based solutions. But, we use both Windows and Linux machines, meaning it is easier to use a Web-based solution. Jdip didn't seem to do the trick, and I was very pleased to stumble across this site.

5.) While the department has both high school and adult students, all of these participants are in High School, 10th to 12th grades. As a result, I am bound to protect their privacy. That is one of the reasons for the "rtc..." naming convention. The other reason is to minimize confusion and make it easier for people to avoid the students if they desire. That is also why the "official" class games are locked. I didn't want anybody to accidentally stumble into one of our games and for the class to gang up for fun. I also didn't want to allow outsiders to participate in the games and potentially introduce inappropriate topics.

6.) I wouldn't be surprised to learn that several students become avid Diplomacy players. Some clearly have already. Hopefully, you will welcome the new blood into the community.

7.) I can't guarantee nobody will do anything bad. In any group of 30 new users, there will potentially be a percentage that don't respect the other members of the community. We discuss this in class, and I hope they all choose to act appropriately (those "linkage effects" again).

8.) Somebody made a suggestion that I should discuss the benefits of using Diplomacy in the negotiation class. The game is very helpful, as long as it is tied to curriculum that makes connections to what people experience. I actually prefer the board game, because it encourages far more discussion, body language, etc. But, the computer version is much easier to use (nobody messes with the board). Also, people don't take it as personally when we use the computer. In previous years, using the boards, some people in each class have taken things far to personally, and it has affected relationships.

9.) Several extra accounts were created. When people first signed up, they didn't realize how the point system worked. As a result, several accidentally set up high point value games and used up all of their points before we started the official games. Also, a number of extra games were created. This was caused when people jumped into the wrong games and then displaced others were supposed to be in them. Chalk it up as over-zealousness, combined with ignorance (a bad combination anywhere). In the end, it all worked out.

10.) Please, don't spam me. I am easy enough to find on the Web. If you are skeptical about the story, it is easy enough to check me and the program out.

Thanks,
Doyle
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Epaminondas (763 D)
15 Nov 07 UTC
Aurea mediocritas
Greetings to everybody. Sorry for my english.
Problem : when someone is famous ( top 10 players for example), he/she will have in almost every game one ( or more ) opponent who will try to nail its hide on the wall, if only to be able to say : " I killed Jesse James, so I'm someone too. "
How do you cope with this ?
On some diplomacy sites, you can play 'gunboat' style games, which means, names are unknown. You can of course recognize someone by his writing, the use of some typical words, you have to guess.
I wouldn't dare to ask that this feature be implemented, I would rather know if there are 'psychological' tricks to avoid being in the line of sight of people looking out for trophies.
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Splingy (75 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Rctpmuser7(and all the other ones)
This guy is a serious multi-accounter-don't play him unless you want to lose you points. Just look at his profile. It's crazy!
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Budlight (201 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Grand Festive Diplomacy Tournament 2007
Complain: how come there is two guys who steals my and another player's places? It is unfair for us!!!
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ummite (194 D)
15 Nov 07 UTC
GrosseKekette Spring 1916, Can we consider a draw?
It's 2 years now I think that nothing moves really, can we consider it a draw or not?
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Jabberwocky (135 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
I don't understand, North Sea move to Kiel in one move?
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=1898
See. North Sea has appeared in Kiel in one move!!!
That is seriously harming me. (Germany)
How can this be, Kestas, please pause this game until this is resolved!!
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mightyrobot (202 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
Game stuck in "due now" status
Request to have the game un-stuck:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2151
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rtcgeneric1 (100 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
All of the RTC accounts
This is a negotiation class, and all are playing against each other. This isn't some kind of hack or cheat. It is a whole lot of people learning about the game and playing against each other. The "rtc" designation in games and usernames is made to prevent confusion.
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gonzo (128 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
metagaming
i dont care if you want to play with yourself in private game to boost your self esteme. But just never play with yourself in public. besides if your like "(RTC) Lt. Crackers's" you will have a ton of games won and a shitload of points... but you wont know the first thing about the game. Cheating will get you disliked by all. and the points will be like an empty wall you can hang your trophys on there but you cant show them off. While I am ranting I just want to say sorry to those that i piss off with my negotiation tatics. I say some stupid stuff but I like the rush and I hope you do too. Eric
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Kawaii Kitsune (95 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
Problems
Anyone having problems loading the games right now? I can't get into the game tab or click on the games whose moves are up.
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TOgilvie (845 D)
10 Nov 07 UTC
Grand Festive Diplomacy Tournament 2007 part 2
Dear all, the entry is now closed for the tournament. I have calculated the seeds, and here are the seven first round games (see first comment)
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james3838 (184 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
Comedy of errors... :) Look what I started.
Kawaii Kitsune (95 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
i mean, technically i could play from that account. it's just i don't want anyone to think 2 ppl are playing from the same one. we generally sign off after we are done let the other person sign on, just this time things were forgotten ;_;

I can't wait until i get my laptop. Then nothing like this will happen again.
wawlam59 (0 DX)
12 Nov 07 UTC
Chrispminis , why I have been replaced? I was looking forward to join.
TOgilvie (845 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
[Nerve twitches violently; thinks about going 'postal']
Okay, stone the crows, what a mess! There will be an independent review into the tournament procedure and the mess which it has spawned.

Here's the situation:
Game 1 is up and running with 7 players (tick)
Game 2 is still down two players. game gid = 2149
Game 3 Not yet started - watch this space
Game 4 is up and running with 7 players (tick)
Game 5(.1) is up and running with 7 players (tick)
Game 6 is up and running with 7 players (tick)
Game 7 Not yet started - watch this space

I haven't begun to look at players in the wrong games and such like. I see at least one person who didn't even sign up for the tournament! If a tournament is ever tried again, this will *not* be the way to do it. However, with the other three games started it will at least look a bit more playable.

My intention before was to go through an intermediate round where the top two or even three went through. This will not be happening. Winner takes all, to go through to the next round. Entry to the final will be 35 points.

Right, any other questions? [mutter mutter, like organizing a shooting fish in barrel contest, mutter mutter]
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
12 Nov 07 UTC
who is that illegal immigrant? I suspect that it is a re-birth of smartjason1993, the dog who tried to join with 4 accounts.
stoni90 (780 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
stone him....
The Mahatma (1195 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
Tom,
Thanks for organizing this. In spite of the confusion and problems getting it started, you have done a fantastic job and it's going to be great.

May I request that we stick with 2 seeds going through and then winner takes all in the next phase? I know it is more work for you, but I believe the issues will sort themselves out.

All the best,
The Mahatma
Budlight (201 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
figlesquidge
this guy never create the game. Can I do that?
Budlight (201 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
I mean Game 7
bc2000 (990 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
It's already been created. Go here: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2151
TheMaster (92 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
It seems like if the tournament started with the top three players going to the second round then it should continue that way.
Any other opinions?
milt (160 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
I think the whole conditions of winning aren't really reagy. But it's a great change, whether the winner takes it all or we play with credits - and there are almost 3 rounds. Don't change such after beginning of the tournament. Allthough I like to play all or nothing.
TOgilvie (845 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Okay, I back down. You're right that a) I shouldn't go back on conditions once games have started and b) things should sort themselves out.

My final word on the matter: top three players will go through to the next round, with the top two from the three 2nd round games plus the next best placed player will make up round 3 (the final).
Jibber (198 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
I am supposed to be in game 1, but I guess I didn't have enough points(I have 17). I'd like to still get in, if there is a chance let me know.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Budlight, I created the games, but you didn't email me when i asked as well has having your email hidden - there was't anything more i could do to contact you.
For anyone interested, game 7 is:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2151
password: seventh
Darchelian (131 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
I didnt sign up originally, can I join game 7?
figlesquidge (2131 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Well, its not up to me, but I don't see any reason why not - the designated players have all been contacted as best possible, and I have waited until near the end of the time limit for joining it...
Kawaii Kitsune (95 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
The one signed into game 4 that isn't supposed to be (Haun Solo) is my bf's account Tom. I thought mine was signed in when i joined it, because the game leader asked an alternate to join. I won't jump next time though, and if you like can consider me completely out of the tournament.

I did open a new thread ::scrolls down half way to bottom of board::
asking Kestas if he will take Haun out of game 4, but I guess he didn't see it. If anyone in the tournament knows him better than I maybe you can get him to help fix that particular game.

I do completely fess up for my mistake, and i'm looking closer at who is logged in at any particular time. So i do promise, it won't happen again ;_;
Evilduck (322 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Thank you for organizing this tournament, Thomas. It is bound to be a bit chaotic since it is the first one, but on the bright side it sets a precedence so if there is another tournament later people will be more familiar with the rules and it will go smoother.

On that note, if there is another tournament how about requiring everyone who signs up to post their e-mail?
whoami (178 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Game 2 spot open - gid=2149, password=second
Chrispminis (916 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Terribly sorry wawlam. I tried to get into contact with you, and updated this thread regularly, looking for you, but I feared that you may be a lost cause. The game had already started, and as a desperate measure I opened it to any joiner. Your replacement came quick enough for us to start the game in Spring 1901, although we had one hitch of miscommunication that resulted in one missed batch of orders. =\
Budlight (201 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Someone take over my place in game seven!!!! Please make another game!!!!
Wooble (450 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
You never joined the game, despite repeated attempts by the person who created it to get you to join. You can take over one of the CD countries.
Wooble (450 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
(unlike the other 4 players, I've even held off on finalizing you give the last 2 players a chance to join). It'd be nice if one of the reserves took over the other CD as well.
fhrathore (82 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
what are these extra reserves?


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winner1 (154 D)
09 Nov 07 UTC
NEW GAME- WITH A DIFFERENCE- TEAM GAMES!!!!!!
Austro-Russian War is open to all on the condition that the Following be adhered to:

team A= Austria, Turkey, England
team B=Russia, Italy, France

and Germany is allowed to choose whichever side he/she wishes!!!!

AND NO CHANGE OF ALLIANCES TIL 1905
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diegohb (470 D)
14 Nov 07 UTC
100 points game
hello there. I just created a game called Tetraktys. Its a 100 points game. Feel free to join.
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sawellesley (70 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
new game
I've jjust put out a new game 12321. no password. pls join.
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skwirL (60 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
General Question
I just attempted to convoy an army from London to Belgium through the North Sea. I also attempted to support this move with my fleet in Holland. So I set the support order to support a move into Belgium and then noticed that I was only allowed to support a move from the North Sea (not from London). I assumed that, since the fleet in the North Sea is "giving its move" to the army that it is convoying, that this was the most logical order of the choices given. However the move failed because of a bounce and I also found this message: "Your fleet at Holland's move support wasn't accepted by the unit which support was being given to."

How do I support an army that is being convoyed?
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bc2000 (990 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
GFDT Game 3: Looking for reserves
Game 3 is waiting 2 missing players: Gerrbil and Physics.

Game will start in 16 hours.

Please available reserves (not in other games of the Tournament) apply here with your mail.
4 hours from now I'll send you link and password to join the game.
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bc2000 (990 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
GFDT - Game 3: two players needed
Grand Festive Diplomacy Tournament 2007 - Game 3 is still missing two players: Gerrbil and Physics (the designated ones) are disappeared.

Game will start in 11 hours and we are looking for some reserve to get into game (please only people not playing in other games of the tournament).

The game link is: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2154
The password is: toctoc
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Rait (10151 D(S))
12 Nov 07 UTC
game 'fast players only 4' hanging
in due now...
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Equinox (154 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Finalizing Orders
What is the difference between Finalizing an order and updating it? If i just leave it updated to where i want to move, do i have to finalize it so it can be accepted? Or do i have to finalize the orders to make it happen? In other words, Can i not finalize my orders so that nobody knows i already made them but still make them by using update instead of finalize?
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pitirre (0 DX)
11 Nov 07 UTC
5 things you can do with your diplomacy board
i will LOVE to buy a diplomacy board but as much i would love to have one, it is just not practical. Right now i have difficulty to find a single go player in my community, imagine how difficult it will be to gather 7 diplomacy players!!

So, christmas is coming soon and i know the christians will like to give me a present to this humble atheist. If by any chance i get a diplomacy board, what kind of use i can give to it?
here is my top 5 things i can do with a diplomacy board;

5. for cutting vegetables.
4. as a living room decorative
3. to teach geography to my kids
2. to throw at the neighbor's dog who always take a dump at my front lawn.
...and the number use for a diplomacy board is...

1. to rub agaisnt my naked body in a sensual paraphilic way.

what is your top 5 useswith a diplomacy board?
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whoami (178 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
spot open in game two
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2149
password - second
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Mike18 (41 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Game Godly2
This game is not refreshing, please help!!
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Locke (1846 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
Higher stakes game?
There are alot of low points games going on at the moment, anybody up for one with slightly higher stakes......250 say?
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Mike18 (41 D)
13 Nov 07 UTC
New Game
join godly2
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VeryCheesy (60 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
New Game
I just made a Game, Join it!
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keeper0018 (100 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
A "Some Pretty Wierd Stuff" Thread...
Hello all-

I am a little bored, and I have decided to start a thread about some unusual things in the diplomacy world. For example, where is the most unusual place that you have seen a unit of a particular country? (i.e.- English army in Smyrna, or Turkish fleet in St. Petersburg) If you dont like that, tell me if you have ever seen such a foolish move by a desperate country, that you had to chuckle to yourself about it. (You have 12 units, he has 2, and he still tries to go against you). If you dont like either of those, throw me a bone and tell me something!!! Geez... Happy thinking!

Nick
(keeper0018)
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bc2000 (990 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
Attention players of tournament Game #3 (GFTD3)!
Please Gerrbil contact me: write to [email protected] or in the chat of a game in which we are together (i.e. Weak Sauce).
All other players had already got in touch with me.

Tomorrow (Monday) morning I will create the game and write to all players to give them link and password.

Please reserves not involved in other games of the Tournament write to [email protected] to let your e-mail, just in case Gerrbil shouldn't contact me tomorrow.

Thank you
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Karkand (2167 D)
12 Nov 07 UTC
Hmmm, can someone explain this to me?
In this current game, my fleet just got booted out of spain. Should it be able to retreat to western medi ?(no other units were there). Right not its only giving me the option to disband.....Thanks in advance.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=1858
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