Mun-Ruh, Ber-Mun, Kie-Holl all in on taking Burgundy.

I like to NMR in Spring 1901. It gets England and France to fight each other.

@cspieker
Sounds like a Schlieffen Plan to me. Ha-ha! I have actually seen that opening played. I'm assuming that it requires an alliances with England, however.

@Hauta
You, my friend, have said one of the most intelligent and inspiring things that I have every heard. Very creative and new. I have read a lot of articles on German openings, but you are the only one who said something that clever.

There are some drawbacks to this idea, like risking Denmark or Holland. But it might actually work.

Whaoh.. that's actually really clever

^Definitely a go to right there, strategic nmrs are always encouraged early on. Another go to is the austrian vassal opening where you move mun-tyr, ber-sil, kie-den and austria moves vie-gal with support from bud and ven holds. Meanwhile you convince italy ro go after turkey and tell turkey that he is facing an aggressive italy. Also tell russia england is gunning for him so he sends moscow north. Then in the autumn you bounce russia in sweden, austria supports sil-war and tyr-ven while you convince england and france to fight each other in the west. Trust me, 60% of the time, it works every time...

@sandyshu47
Sounds very elaborate and intricate, which isn't bad. But a lot of intricate plans require intricate players, and I don't know how many you're going to encounter. If you have any games that illustrate this plan, I'd love to see them.

I'm really fascinated with the strategic NMR, even though it only works in postal play. Nonethless, any further information on this subject would be much appreciated.

NMR as Germany is silliness. England opens to NTh/NWG 80%+ which means he looks to gobble you most likely.

Only strategic NMR I like/have seen successful is Italy followed by taking Trieste. Really any NMR in full press is a waste of progress. I've only seen this work in GBs mostly live. Have to have poor RT players or they just turn it into a jugg and kill you.

A(Ber)-Kie, F(Kie)-Den, and A(Mun)-Ruh is seen as too greedy - trying for 3 builds?

When I try for 3 builds, I open Ber-Kie, Kie-Hol, Mun-Ruh.. It rarely works.

I am very sceptic about any NMR tactic. It just sounds wrong to intentionaly not move. With that in mind nature of the game is such that every strategy including this one could in some cuircumstances work.

My problem with NMRs is that your RR goes down, so I would never consider it on this site.

A Mun-Tyo is very underrated on this site.

In full press games I sometimes like to open with Kie-Den, Ber-Kie and Mun-Sil.
If press indicates that England and France will probably fight (it helps if you offer Belgium to both of them), and convince France to ally with you during spring negotiations ...
I tried it in this game: gameID=145499
France's self-support into Bur in spring 01 was agreed on, but in autumn I sold it to Russia as a broken DMZ agreement and simultaneously blamed France for my presence in Silesia (I said France would have given me intel that lead me to expect a Russian attack). I apologized and pretended to want to move back into Munich to cover my home centers ...

Some time ago, I read an article about a gunboat strategy called the centrifuge. I can't find the article anymore, but (if I remember correctly) it opened with Ber->Pro, Kie->Baltic & Mun->Kie with autumn continuation Pru -> convoy to Denmark & Kie->Hol. While I doubt this unorthodox move set will be very productive in gunboat, with the right press, they might have some value in a full press game

@Sevyas
I know about the Centrifuge, but I'd never try it. It's just one of those ambitious, pompous openings that's often very impractical and attention-grabbing. It's no better than the Panther Opening, which I bet no one has heard of because of how silly it is.