I also feel ive gotten alot better at press lately. But Is it too late for me? Am I beyond coaching at my 400+ games to learn how to become a great diplomat

The only problem with 1 is your bizarre belief that some people are exceptions. They're really not.

Two is fine. Laziness is a virtue to be nurtured. No one likes long winded nonsense.

Three... Now that's your problem. Appeasement doesn't work. Give someone a deal heavily in their favour and they probably will think you're a liar taking the piss, or they'll walk all over you.

also there are players on this site who get bored and throw games, and don't give it their all. if you're looking at win rates and feel a little bit dissatisfied, there's a LOT of different factors going into this

I agree with Octavious. You want to be pretty firm in coming out ahead on every deal. Appeasement doesn't work well I have found

1 and 2 I think are good traits for diplomacy players. Maybe trust but verify. Being too paranoid makes you impossible to work with. There are some players who are so paranoid they stab their "allies" every turn apologize and then do it agin. By the third round I just try to kill those guys

One common mistake ive made in Juggernauts is offering Turkey into BUD in exchange for Vienna. Seems like Turkey is mentally incapable of honoring that deal as it traps themself in my flank. Not sure how to keep a Juggernaut going once Turkey is in BUD

Don't give them Budapest. Trieste and Serbia v Vienna and Budapest is typical

i will be your bud if you let me into Vienna or Munich!

Don't be named CaptBrad that's usually full oroof

Anyone can become better with practice. Play better competition and then try to emulate them.

Buck private Byron is no player

@Gen. Lee- so, just for examples sake, it wouldn't make sense for me to play Caot Brad since he's not better competition?

I would love the opportunity to put the private in his place

Sorry I only play press games and I've heard you only like gunboat even when you are playing press.

I will press you like pants at the cleaners, worm.

That would be a valid threat if I at all thought you could afford going to the cleaners. Broke ass bitch. ;)

Calm down children

Commander Byron - it is my duty to keep you from bar fights. Come on - back to maps of Europe - study man, study!

I can afford much. You are the poor relation

Are you feeling lucky, punk? gameID=195736

CAPT Brad - walk away ... I said - walk away! all this negativity is not good for the Commander's psyche

calling the Commander a punk or me? ;-) ya - I'm feeling lucky, this game is all about luck right?

Next to a captain, a commander is a punk

Capt Brad, bud, listen I don't wanna embarrass you but I think you've allowed yourself to use up your entire vocabulary. I wouldn't want you to be without a clever bug squashing reference in a third thread.

Also you'd have to make the RR lower. I'm not all that reliable ;)

Capt Brad gets his insults from a Mr.T wheaties box. "Squish you like a big." "Punk"

Omg I didn't even notice but you named the game after your shitty insults. This is too damn funny. CaptBrad are you by any chance under the age of 12? I'd feel kinda bad if you were and it would explain why I've heard better insults in an episode of seasame street.

.. shakes head.. not sure I'd want to be caught in a game with both of you anyway ... i'd probably be right in the way

I have seen this as a common problem on this site. There is such a lack of trust that most games seem to be gunboat these days which is annoying as the game is called "Diplomacy" not "Everyone for themselves"

I did not see how unreliable private Byron was when I picked the RR. A low RR is a sign of a very poor player. One who cuts and runs when not getting his way. A childish act for a grown up game. An indicator of a quitter who cannot be taken seriously. Poor private Byron. A sad person. Pity the fool.

There only one way to settle this, FvA. Otherwise surely you get banned for starting a game with the pre conceived idea of kicking the sh*t out of each other.

FvA? They should have a dance-off!

CaptBrad, if I cared at all about the metric that still weighs my NMRs from 3 years ago and CDs from when adolescent me quit as a valuable metric for who I am or the level of play I can dish out I may actually be offended. Instead I just see you grasping for anything that can legitimize you or help you in our fued. Pitiful.

Brad has one of the worst GRs of any forum poster

Without naming names since everyone knows who this is, if you're playing a press game, post press. If you're not going to talk, just stick to gunboats.

Wait you mean I have to talk?

Sorry - no. Just type ;)

Can I say what I type out loud? (I do that anyway but I would like permission)

You may, @Biojay, the gerbils notwithstanding.

Question is, if you talk while you type, but there is no one there to hear you, do you make a sound?

What part of the negotiations for DMZ silesia involved a gerbil....

I found that all it takes to win is a simple capability for strategy, negotiation, and luck.

Strategy: Mainly just anticipating your opponent and recognizing valuable territories, I have found that some players fail in this or have an over-complicated strategy, which is also bad.

Negotiation: This is the part most people fail at because it requires near-constant communication with those involved in your strategies. The people who get killed early do so because they didn't convince their neighbors to leave them alone.

Luck: No matter how good you are, your position and neighbors can screw you over or give you a massive breakthrough in the game. This is the part nobody can control, the chaos on the battlefield, and you just got to roll with it.

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