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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
29 May 14 UTC
(+1)
Is there no SoW going on right now?
^
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Ethics of Diplomacy
So in general, I suppose most people here would say you can, and, possibly, should do anything within the rules to increase their chance at winning.

How about, for example, pretending to be terminal, though? Is that still fine?
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Sure.
abgemacht (1076 D (G))
03 Jun 14 UTC
(+7)
As long as you do it to try to win. Doing it to get a pause or cancel is probably going to be frowned upon by the mods.
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
+1 abge

No offense, steephie, but having cancer and finding out you have a month to live is not a reason I'd give someone a solo.
Draugnar (0 D X)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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I'd probably use it as a reason to eliminate them quickly in every game in which we are playing, that way if they suddenly croak, there won't be a CD.
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
lol
Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
03 Jun 14 UTC
lol draug.

I would show no mercy on a terminal patient. I want them to curse my tactical brilliance on their very deathbed.
steephie22 (182 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Why would I take offence? Just wondering wether anyone draws the line here or something.
Fishstudios (245 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
I was in a week long face-to-face game once (also one of my first games ever) in which I came really, really close to making a fake email account in an opponent's name in order to send orders to their teammate (because each country was being controlled by multiple people). So, basically identity theft for the sake of Diplomacy. I decided that was a bit too far, though.
Crazy Anglican (715 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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I seriously considered using the intercom system in the house I grew up in (it was a 1970's thing) to listen in on diplomacy discussions in the other rooms.
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
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I've played on sites where my friend asked me to sit for him in a game and he gave me his password. Anytime I played a game with him in the future, I would log onto his account and read his press.
Maniac (189 D (B))
03 Jun 14 UTC
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I became obsessed by one game on here, a long time ago, so long ago that the statute of limitations has expired and only now can I reveal the details. I was desperate just to survive the game and it hinged on guessing the other two guys moves correctly. Rather than take the risk, I asked a private detective who I had engaged to follow my wife who I thought was having an affair to hack into my two opponents' computers. He did and I received advance knowledge of their orders. The private Dick then tried to blackmail me and demanded more money for the hack than I paid him to track my wife (who wasn't having an affair just organising a surprise party for my 40th, bless). Anyway I agreed to meet the Private eye and comfronted him about the blackmail. To cut a long story short, that's how I ended up shooting a man in Reno.

Crazy Anglican (715 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
LMAO

** laments only having the ability to +1**

Gtlblx (971 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
I don't think I'd keep playing the timesink that is Diplomacy if I had a terminal disease.
Thucydides (864 D (B))
03 Jun 14 UTC
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Alright so does someone who isn't Tru Ninja want to be my sitter? Lmao Jesus.
I'm normally one for anything goes, but hacking somebody's account like that... Damn haha.

Either way I'll be changing my pw :P
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Rofl! You SHOULD be changing your PW once you have someone sit for you.

I read an article by Allan Calhamer that essentially stated that in a ftf game, it's entirely legit to remove your opponent's orders from the order box so that he NMR's a season. Now THAT's hardcore!
Thucydides (864 D (B))
03 Jun 14 UTC
(+1)
Been there done that Lol
SandgooseXXI (113 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
oh shoot, maybe I should change my passwords.
Theodosius (232 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
That's pretty hardcore dip, Maniac.
President Eden (2721 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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I never do any of those things. For me Diplomacy's about persuasion and strategy, so I don't get any enjoyment out of other mechanics, like stealing orders from the orders box or reading an opponent's press, that serve to distract from these.

That's not to say that they're out-of-bounds or anything, just not interesting to me.

And no, I would never fake being terminally ill in a game, even if it were a one-off anonymous game where no one would ever know I lied. Why? Because that means I had to resort to this instead of persuading my opponents within the confines of the game. I'm never going to learn how to persuade my opponents within the confines of the game if I don't make an effort to do it.
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Isn't faking a terminal illness a form of persuasion? You have to get them to believe it...
Octavious (1712 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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Faking a terminal illness is a rather crude from of persuasion, akin to "I couldn't do my homework because Gran died". It fails because it simply wouldn't work on any but the most gullible players, and if you have an opponent that gullible you can far more easily use a less unpleasant method.

Still, I see no harm in using it from a moral perspective. Pulling orders out of the box in ftf, on the other hand, I'd consider cheating unless it was specifically said before the game that things like that were ok
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
I think pulling orders from the order box is pretty unscrupulous--although Calhamer condoned it and admitted to it at least once.
steephie22 (182 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
If you want to be really sneaky in ftf, I recommend replacing the box with another book while no one's looking, so the whole board does exactly what you want...

Next turn put the old box back. Since a lot of units are in different positions now, most orders from the other people will be invalid while you have already put in the orders when you planned it last turn...
President Eden (2721 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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Within the confines of the game, Tru. My opponents have no way of falsifying what I'm saying, and if they're normal people they're not going to believe that someone would lie about something like this over a game. It's exploiting not a weakness in my opponent's ability to assess the board to determine whether I'm truthful but a basic human kindness everyone owes everyone else. It's morally abhorrent and not intellectually challenging or interesting.
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
I agree with you, but I see it as a fruitless venture and a poor tactic as opposed to anything else.
well sure, my problem is more with the other aspects but yeah i doubt it matters anyway because who's going to change their behavior based on it?
Fishstudios (245 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
What to people think of the "Flying Dutchman" - that is, sneaking a piece onto the board that really shouldn't be there?

Also, I don't know if anyone really calls it that, I just recall reading it somewhere.
Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
It's still called that. Most of the time it's accidental
SandgooseXXI (113 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
wouldn't players with carbon copies of their orders be able to get passed that. "change orders" option?
uclabb (589 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
I know this doesn't really make any sense, but I am of the mind that pretty much anything goes in f2f games, as they really are one off, but that a certain amount of respect is needed for online (and I would assume email) games just because they become a very real part of our lives for months at a time, so the impact of being evil is a little bit greater. Just my two cents.
JimTheGrey (968 D (S))
04 Jun 14 UTC
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Disagree with that. It's much harder to get an FtF game going than an online game. I you want players to come back, then you really shouldn't be a prick.
Draugnar (0 D X)
04 Jun 14 UTC
Not to mention, f2f pricks can get their asses kicked by other players or other players' pupils trying to kee their football scholarships. :-)
Fluminator (500 D)
04 Jun 14 UTC
In regards to the "Flying Dutchman" strategy, I generally sneak an opponents piece on and accuse them of cheating.
In one F2F game I played, I secretly changed one guys orders so everything held. He never let his orders leave his hands for the rest of his (short) game after that.
This adds an entirely new strategy or gameplay element to f2f games, but most games we agree to not play like that.
trip (696 D (B))
04 Jun 14 UTC
I would be more inclined to stab a person who was terminal. Less time to stab me back.

Of course, no one here would ever stab someone as a form of payback from a previous game. That would be meta-gaming ;)


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Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
04 Jun 14 UTC
Damn Libtards.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/g1lev1/an-outbreak-of-liberal-idiocy?xrs=synd_facebook_060314_tds_0
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tvrocks (388 D)
04 Jun 14 UTC
Minor rule question
What happens if all countries in a game cd at the same time?
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krellin (80 D X)
04 Jun 14 UTC
(+2)
Forum Cheese
Let's play cheese!
Rules: Play to win. You can only play for one flavor. You can not move two turns in a row.
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Best Of?
I've been getting into the game a lot more recently and was wondering if there was any sort of listing of great or best games of Diplomacy. Games with great strategy, alliances, backstabs, drama, that kind of stuff.

In lue of that post your favorite or best games here. I'm up for reading some good stories.
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Yonni (301 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Laptop Advice
I'm deciding between two laptops and am hoping to illicit advice from the forum.
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Drinking healthy
I'm quite a balanced eater, so it's not exactly vital, but apart from water, it seems like almost every drink is unhealthy for your body or teeth in some way. Of course, I could just make sure I vary enough, and I do, but I still think it's good to know what's actually healthy rather than "not that bad".

I absolutely don't have to worry about too much calories, btw. I'm talking about the other stuff.
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krellin (80 D X)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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The Poop Chair
Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha!! One of our foster kittens pooped on the leather recliner....my daughter sat in it. Ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha. That was awesome.

Yeah, not what you thought I was posting about, was it. Feel free to share your....er....never mind...
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
04 Jun 14 UTC
Once all 7 have posted, mods can unpause the game
gameID=142807. This is for the game titled "what is it good for"
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Replacement needed
gameID=142674
The first season has not gone through yet and we have an NMR England. If you're interested, have a mod place you into the game.
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
31 May 14 UTC
Looking for 6 players
To start a new classic WTA full press game. Any Interest?
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Mapu (362 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
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Draugnar's Points
Is Draug the most inept player of all time? 6 years on the site, 225+ games, and still scrapping around as a puppet. Discuss.
22 replies
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tvrocks (388 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
Does this game have to be cancelled?
Hi. I'm currently in this game in which we had 3 people get banned. There haven't been any moves made yet and it is still in spring 1901. So if we were able to fill the positions, 1 of which has been filled already, would we be allowed to continue? Here's a link to the game.
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WardenDresden (239 D (B))
03 Jun 14 UTC
Need a replacement Texas in Full Press Anon WTA, low stakes game.
Texas was banned, and without a replacement it's going to be a very one-sided game.

gameID=141954
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jmo1121109 (3812 D Mod)
02 Jun 14 UTC
Moderator Team Notice to Haverford Students
We (the moderators) have recently noticed that a large number of students from your school district have not read our site rules. Please see inside for more.
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Triskelli (100 D)
03 Jun 14 UTC
Slobbovia Seeking Help
Hey! I've been trying to bring this variant back to life for years now, and I am so very close. I just need someone to give me a hand with touching up the map I managed to find. Please see the development forum if you're interested.

http://forum.webdiplomacy.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=660
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denis (864 D)
02 Jun 14 UTC
Get a LIVE game going
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=142845
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
14 May 14 UTC
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The Favorite Author Tournament: The Round of 32
And here we go, into Round 2, with Shakespeare being out due to his losing again...because he's the master of tragedy, of course! ;) Will there be literary superstars? Yes! Will there be a glut of sci fi and fantasy writers? Yes! Will Thucy continue push a #ThoreauLaozi2016 platform (Change We Can Believe In...except change is just a natural process and you must learn to accept it like the good little Transcendentalist that you are!) YES! ;) 32 authors, 1 goal...whatever that is.
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Crazy Anglican (715 D)
02 Jun 14 UTC
AAAAARRRRRGGGG!!!!!!
Sorry mods,

I forgot I'm not supposed to comment on ongoing games.
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ANimac (360 D)
30 May 14 UTC
Reliability Rating
What is the reliability rating based off? Mine sunk to 59% a while ago and hasn't come back up - despite a lot of reliable playing :)
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
02 Jun 14 UTC
The Last Man in Europe...Or, Rather, China
http://news.yahoo.com/25-years-tiananmen-barely-known-china-youth-064659528.html That's honestly very depressing...It was 1989...but its treatment is not too far from "1984." And THIS is why I have such a hard time sympathizing with those shouting "Wake the Fuck Up," as if disagreement over America's future was the equivalent to being asleep at the wheel. Neither Bush nor Obama were the tyrants the Michael Moores and Glenn Becks call them out to be...THIS is The Party incarnate...
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
30 May 14 UTC
Where are the regulators
Hi Mods, I have sent an email concerning a game I am in that might need your attention very soon. If you could please check the email that'd be great, enjoy your Friday! In other news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1plPyJdXKIY
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Tru Ninja (1016 D (S))
29 May 14 UTC
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Concerning the Frequency of Opening Moves
A while back, I received raw data from Jonathan Jonsson (someone from this site) and I put it together in an XL spreadsheet and have done various statistics related to that data. Below are the frequencies for the various opening moves by country/by move.
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semck83 (229 D (B))
28 May 14 UTC
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A Game Worth Playing
This thread will be won by the last person to post a gramatically correct, single-sentence post that has a strictly larger number of distinct words than any previous post on the thread.
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
31 May 14 UTC
Lil' bit of French
I want to know how to say this in French:
"(I would like to reserve the spot) in the period from 16 July to 6 August."
That might not even be a proper English sentence, but you probably get what I mean. I just need to make clear in which period, and I don't know how.
Monday morning I'm handing in a letter in which I need that sentence, so there's no rush.
18 replies
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denis (864 D)
01 Jun 14 UTC
One more to start a new WTA game
If anyone of you want to join this game I started, Anonymous, WTA. 2 day phases. 25 buy in. gameID=142674
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GreyNecro (79 D)
01 Jun 14 UTC
Live Game
If anyone wants to join my game Bilbo Bagins it's a live game and I need players (10 point buy in)
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Alderian (2425 D (S))
29 May 14 UTC
I need advice about buying an mp3 player / iPod
I have never owned/operated an mp3 player / iPod, but I'd really like to get one, so I'm looking for advice from those who have been there and done that already.
45 replies
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Spaceman98 (135 D)
31 May 14 UTC
Builds in non-core supply centers
Is it possible to make it so that, on maps like World War 1 (classical), you can build in non-home supply centers, as you can on the Modern Europe map? If so, how?
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